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2019/01/14 14:15:19 (permalink)
We released a new Flow Control version today, v2.0.9.
 
Release Notes:
  1. Fix issue: AM4 CPU package temperature error.
  2. Fix issue: ring0 conflict with other EVGA software.
 
Download the new version by:
  1. Go to https://www.evga.com/support/download/
  2. Select "Other Products"
  3. Select "Closed Loop Coolers" and select the remaining options.
  4. Click Submit and download the latest version of Flow Control.
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/14 15:03:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the notice

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/15 10:05:34 (permalink)
    Have installed today and so far no problem here!! Thanks for update new Version 

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/18 19:10:15 (permalink)
    CPU temperature shows 100 degrees Celsius now.
    So it's way more off than the previous version.
     
    Why is it so hard to get something as simple as cpu temperature correct?
    All other software on my system has no issues displaying the correct CPU temperature...
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/18 22:55:45 (permalink)
    It is hard to do and it is even harder when many different software tasks are try to get the same data.
    You can double check what the BIOS number say  ; 100C almost sound like the default high . ie high bad reading ?
    or Intel’s Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU)  -I have not tried it on my Windows 10 systems
     
    Ah, the days when a CPU chip only had ONE core and how do you average over 6 cores when one may not be in use.
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    if you put one foot on the stove and one foot in the frig -- on the average you will be comfortable

     
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/19 18:23:53 (permalink)
    How is it hard to do when 5 other apps can read the temperature just fine all at the same time?
     
    It is not a bad reading, the actual temperature is 36 but this app insists it is 86.
    It is the only application that does that.
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/20 07:44:02 (permalink)
    Flow Control has read CPU temps correctly in the past. I have tried uninstall and reinstall of several older version as well as this new version 9. Hard to understand the fault in version 9 reading 100C+. Variables seem to be the MSI BIOS updates, the AMD Chipset updates and the OS updates and maybe the GPU driver updates. What puzzles me most is that CPU-Z, HWInfo64 and "headups" screen displays in games I play all report the more appropriate temps ranging from 29C to 52C depending on use. When I go into the BIOS (load drops of course) temps show as low as 28C but mostly low 32's. Hard to feel confident laying blame for the issue. I doubt a EVGA update to a version 10 is the final solution. Maybe EVGA has a business relationship problem with AMD specifically? When working I use the CPU temp to guide the color of the RGB. Once upon a version, I had the AIO and GPU synced and showing my CPU temp in color. That was cool. My last comment; my EVGA PSU, GPU and AOI perform their intended functions exceptionally well. So great job for that! Venting completed off to breakfast now.

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/20 14:42:11 (permalink)
    I noticed the coolant temperature is indicating a steady 28.1 Celsius regardless of CPU load with a steady pump speed of 2670 RPM and Fan speed of 960 RPM for about 24 hours now.
    It looks like half of the software is frozen while the other half still works.
    CPU temps are bouncing around 100 Celsius mark.
     
    You cannot blame those on AMD or chip sets or whatever else they like to blame it on.
    It's their software and their driver that is clearly the issue.
     
    The previous versions worked a lot better with only a 10 Celsius "offset" on the reported CPU temperatures.
    I am going to switch back to the old version.
     
     
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/20 18:29:13 (permalink)
    To vanadiel007, please let us know which version you switch back to and if it works or is still reporting odd values for the temperature. I have tried switching back to version 8 then tried version 6. I cannot get any version to work. Wondering if a registry entry is possibly involved. Wonder if there is a "EVGA clean uninstall" program. Like the DDU that Nvidia has. More field reports needed.

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 00:44:41 (permalink)
    vanadiel007, what motherboard and which processor are you using?  Which OS?  Do you have any other monitoring software programs running?
     
    miklet, are your system specs up-to-date in your signature?  Which OS?  Any other software monitoring programs running?
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 03:29:57 (permalink)
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    vanadiel007, what motherboard and which processor are you using?  Which OS?  Do you have any other monitoring software programs running?
     
    miklet, are your system specs up-to-date in your signature?  Which OS?  Any other software monitoring programs running?




    I went back to version 2.0.8. Everything works fine except the CPU Temp. It reports 10 degrees less than actual. (It has always done that and I opened a ticket for that when I first got this unit and was told it is a known issue).
    Also, version 2.0.9 displays the firmware as Version 0.0.0.0. Version 2.0.8 displays it as Version 2.10.0.0.
     
    I would say something is up with the driver, which is installed as a service if I am not mistaken.
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 07:35:53 (permalink)
    EVGATech_LeeM,
    Added BIOS (latest from MSI) AGESA PinnaclePI-1.0.0.6 and added OS (latest Home version from Microsoft) to signature line. Balance of signature is up to date.
    Only monitoring software running at startup is the Intel® Driver and Support Assistant.
    EVGAPrecisionX1 version 11 loaded at startup but does not populate the system tray at startup. GPU-Z shows OC implemented at startup all the same.
    Other software loaded as needed includes:
    - HWInfo64 version 6.00-3620 temps in 30-50C range
    - GPU-Z version 2.16.0 temps in 30-50C range
    - Unigen Superposition benchmark program with GPU and CPU monitoring during benchmark shows CPU temps in the 30-63C range when running the 4K resolution test
    - the EVGAPrecisionX1 software also has a onscreen monitor but when I try to use this, the precision software frequently closes on it's own. But when it works temps are in the 30 to 50C range.
    - lastly games like Assassins Creed and F1 2018 over in-game, onscreen displays and again the range is 30 to low 60C during gaming
     
     
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 07:47:01 (permalink)
     
    vanadiel007, thank you for the additional comments. I tried the version 8, version 5 and version4 and all still report the higher temp. Extra puzzle, why does version 8 work as it used to for you, but not for me!?! Curious about the shown version number. I wonder if there are more than one version 8's in the wild. Standby I will clean re-install version 8. Indeed my version 8 also reports it is 2.10.0.0..
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 15:46:37 (permalink)
    @ EVGATech_LeeM
     
     
    The motherboard I am using : MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
    Processor : Ryzen 2600X (retail)
    OS: Windows 10 X64 Version 1809 Build 17763.253
     
    Other monitoring software running:
    MSI Afterburner version 4.5.0
    EVGA Flow control version 2.0.8
    System Explorer version 7.0.0.5356
    Samsung Magician 5.3.0
    Brother control center 3 version 3.11.0.0
    Brother status monitor version 2.6.3.2
    Displaycal profile loader version 3.7.1.3
    SB Z control panel version 2.15.04
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 15:57:39 (permalink)
    miklet

     
    I went back to version 2.0.8. Everything works fine except the CPU Temp. It reports 10 degrees less than actual. (It has always done that and I opened a ticket for that when I first got this unit and was told it is a known issue).
    Also, version 2.0.9 displays the firmware as Version 0.0.0.0. Version 2.0.8 displays it as Version 2.10.0.0.
     
    I would say something is up with the driver, which is installed as a service if I am not mistaken.


    vanadiel007, thank you for the additional comments. I tried the version 8, version 5 and version4 and all still report the higher temp. Extra puzzle, why does version 8 work as it used to for you, but not for me!?! Curious about the shown version number. I wonder if there are more than one version 8's in the wild. Standby I will clean re-install version 8. Indeed my version 8 also reports it is 2.10.0.0..




    My version 2.0.8 came directly from the Evga download location, so did version 2.0.9.
    I can only speculate it is a driver issue as the firmware revision for this unit has to be read from the unit and for that you will need the driver supplied with the flow control software.
     
    On a side note with version 2.0.9 they have fixed the issue with the software loading after the driver is initialized instead of before.
    With version 2.0.8 and auto startup with windows enabled the software will error out saying it cannot find the hardware.
    You have to start it up a second time. A minor issue, but still an issue.
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/21 17:55:22 (permalink)

     
    Very odd!  Mine is spot on.  EVGA Motherboard (X299 FTW K).  v2.0.8
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/22 13:23:35 (permalink)
    bobmitch

     
    Very odd!  Mine is spot on.  EVGA Motherboard (X299 FTW K).  v2.0.8
     
     
     
     




    They are both on AMD boards - that is what they are trying iron out


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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/22 13:25:18 (permalink)
    vanadiel007, miklet did you guys go and check to make sure there were no left over folder / files between the uninstalls / re installs?
    If so delete them
     


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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/23 12:53:57 (permalink)
    GGTV-Jon.
    If I allow FlowControl to follow it's default installation then use uninstall to remove, where would I look for a leftover folder or files. More information please, I can't find what I do know where to look for. I spent a good hour examining the Registry looking for "leftovers" but did not locate any. However, I did not know where that search should occur either. How do you confirm that any leftovers have been found?

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/23 13:21:10 (permalink)
    In my instance... 
    Flow Control installs to "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control". Note: LED Sync, Precision XOC and WinRing0 also install at this location. 
    When uninstall completes the "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control" directory remains. Also there is a "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control/Profiles" directory. Plus inside the "Profiles" directory there is one file named "CPUWB.cfg". 
    From the next test I deleted the "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control" directory. Next I turned off the computer completely so I could cold-boot fresh. Installed Flow Control version 9. CPU temps still read 90-100C+.
     
    I repeated the process and on my next pass installed the previous Flow Control version 8. Flow Control now reports CPU temps in the low 30C's. 
     
    Cleaning out the directory did allow going back to version 8. This is good enough for me. Cleaning out the old directory appears to solve the problem of older versions that were re-installed after version 9 also reported anomalous CPU temp.
     

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/23 13:22:30 (permalink)
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    GGTV-Jon.
    If I allow FlowControl to follow it's default installation then use uninstall to remove, where would I look for a leftover folder or files. More information please, I can't find what I do know where to look for. I spent a good hour examining the Registry looking for "leftovers" but did not locate any. However, I did not know where that search should occur either. How do you confirm that any leftovers have been found?


    It not a problem! if you can open Files Explorer and go open "Program Files (x86)" > "EVGA" > "Flow Control" delete this folder after you have uninstall software. Then you re restart your windows and reinstall again. Hope it will work for you! My here is no problem but I set to manual fan because too loud noise on Auto!!!

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/23 13:24:01 (permalink)
    miklet
    In my instance... 
    Flow Control installs to "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control". Note: LED Sync, Precision XOC and WinRing0 also install at this location. 
    When uninstall completes the "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control" directory remains. Also there is a "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control/Profiles" directory. Plus inside the "Profiles" directory there is one file named "CPUWB.cfg". 
    From the next test I deleted the "...Program Files (x86)/EVGA/Flow Control" directory. Next I turned off the computer completely so I could cold-boot fresh. Installed Flow Control version 9. CPU temps still read 90-100C+.
     
    I repeated the process and on my next pass installed the previous Flow Control version 8. Flow Control now reports CPU temps in the low 30C's. 
     
    Cleaning out the directory did allow going back to version 8. This is good enough for me. Cleaning out the old directory appears to solve the problem of older versions that were re-installed after version 9 also reported anomalous CPU temp.
     


    Oh you got it....
    Yeah stick with Version 8 for now and wait for next new version!!

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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/25 12:14:29 (permalink)
    Whoever the coder is, I love how he/she fails us....
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/25 16:38:18 (permalink)
    Can't upload a picture to this place, so I will list manually what the readings were.
    I will keep the screenshot so maybe someday I can upload it.
     
    Core Temp 1.13: 37
    MSI afterburner: 37
    HWinfo64 V6.00-3620: 36.5
    Aida64: 36
     
    Evga Flow Control: 26.5
     
     
     
    They are all the same except Evga Flow Control.
    So either they are all wrong, or EVGA Flow Control is wrong.
    I think the answer is obvious.
     

     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/25 21:42:33 (permalink)
    FLOW temp  ? the water temperature ?
     

     
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/01/29 12:36:26 (permalink)
    same probleme for me flow control is over 100 degree on my ryzen 2700X, hwinfo, and all other software show the good temp just flow control is wrong :(
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/02/01 14:35:58 (permalink)
    weird...i have installed 2.0.8 and work flawlessly, good temps now
     
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/02/05 13:06:34 (permalink)
    Hi.
     
    Got a new Ryzen 5 2600 on an ASUS C6H board. Came from an intel i5 4690k and my own water cooler. Bought a CLC 280 for my new components to get rid of my old water cooler. So i have a brand new installation of this software and it shows around 80-85 degrees while i play a game. And 75 idle. With a correct mounted 280 and no OC. Cant be correct. Temperature in BIOS is much lower.
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/02/05 23:06:29 (permalink)
    Flow Control is rubbish piece of sw....Set the fans at manual speed and forget it.
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    Re: Flow Control v2.0.9 2019/02/17 09:38:45 (permalink)
    2.0.9 consistently reports ~50 degrees higher than what Ryzen Master reports.
    2.0.8 reports exactly 17 degrees higher.
    Software that's designed to regulate temperature should certainly become MORE accurate as version are updated.
    ****?
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