fuery87
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:19 PM
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You need an upgrade, I think
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:20 PM
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fuery87
Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
Depends what you’re using for? Gaming should be just fine, there are only a few hard core CPU intensive games that I can think of. But I would treat yo self and do it anyway! It’s still fairly easy to sell your “old” 3600.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:37 PM
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I would upgrade. The bottleneck would most likely be at 1080p, but it doesn't make much sense to get a $1200+ GPU and pair it with a sub $200 CPU. You can check some benchmarks to confirm. What kind of MB do you have? Some B450 and X470 boards support Zen 3 CPUs with a bios update.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:40 PM
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If you are running 4k then yes, if not, then no you might as well wait until next gen CPU release.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:42 PM
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
As of right now, all Ryzen processors are AM4 so no you do not need a new board.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:44 PM
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Ryzen 3600 is fine for gaming, get the RTX 3080 Ti.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:49 PM
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
I upgraded to the 5800x then sent it back and ended up getting a 5900x. I too need a new Mobo.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:51 PM
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fuery87
Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
As of right now, all Ryzen processors are AM4 so no you do not need a new board.
My board doesnt support 5000 series. Not all B450s board do, even if you have a 3000 cpu.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 0:59 PM
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fuery87
Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
As of right now, all Ryzen processors are AM4 so no you do not need a new board.
I'm using a Gigabyte AB350 board, so I'm pretty sure I do.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 1:13 AM
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
As of right now, all Ryzen processors are AM4 so no you do not need a new board.
I'm using a Gigabyte AB350 board, so I'm pretty sure I do.
Yeah, you're leaving PCIe 4.0 feature of the 3600 unused. After looking through what Newegg had for a B550 PCIe 4.0 motherboards for my 3600XT, I went with this motherboard and I'm very happy with it. Also picked up a NVMe 4.0 x4 drive for it. https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144325
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 1:17 AM
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It depends on the motherboard you have, any 6-core processor is enough
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 1:27 AM
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One of my rigs has a 3600XT paired now, with a 3080 and it runs fantastic on my ultra wide. Upgrading from a 1080 Ti to the 3080 nearly doubled my FPS. My main rig has a 9900K@ 5ghz and when using the 3080 at 3440x1440p there is virtually no difference between the 2. I haven't seen a compelling reason to upgrade the CPU just yet.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 1:55 AM
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You never did say what your current video card is?
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 1:57 AM
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
5800x will do, but Microcenter has the 5900x in stock at the store only.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 2:03 AM
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Shouldn't be an issue if youre game 1440p+. 1080 will benefit but even there, the GPU is what matters most. If I were you, I'd run it, and only upgrade if needed. 5600x might be all you need, or you could wait another gen or 2 since the CPU doesn't matter as much at higher resolutions. Depending on the game, I doesn't matter much at all.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 2:04 AM
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Currently have a Ryzen 3600 and worried about the potential bottleneck. Wondering about grabbing a 5800x, since they've actually been in stock lately. I'd also need a new motherboard.
No, unless you game at 1080P240. Worry more about your psu and case airflow.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 2:34 AM
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I think you are fine for most use cases. As others have mentioned the only bottleneck will come at high framerate situations or games where you were CPU bottlenecked before like civ or cities skylines. The main bottleneck from graphics comes with the cpu not being able to give the GPU instructions fast enough. This is exclusively based on the number of frames needed, not how detailed those frames have to be. So the bottlenecks only come when asking for a lot of frames.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:13 AM
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Yea as others have said, there will be cases where you'll bottleneck with a 3600 and a 3080ti. But it'll be adequate in most ways...
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:45 AM
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OCD at it's finest. You are blessed. Upgrade that bad boi and feel that goodness. All of it together, go, buddy go!!!
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 4:24 AM
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I think you are fine for most use cases. As others have mentioned the only bottleneck will come at high framerate situations or games where you were CPU bottlenecked before like civ or cities skylines. The main bottleneck from graphics comes with the cpu not being able to give the GPU instructions fast enough. This is exclusively based on the number of frames needed, not how detailed those frames have to be. So the bottlenecks only come when asking for a lot of frames.
Or Minecraft Java when you have 1000 cows in a pit. Nice to see a well considered post from a new member benja.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 8:56 AM
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You don't need to upgrade by any means, you should be fine as bottlenecks are pretty much non-existent but they do still exist, for example putting something like a old i3 with a RTX 3080 Ti would be a bottleneck but something like a r5 3600 wouldn't. Most of the time, bottlenecks also only come in 1080p or somethings 2K but never 4K and not usually in 2K; this is due to when there is a lot of FPS, the CPU cannot process this quick enough but unless you're gaming in 1080p, once again you should be fine and decent in cpu intensive titles. If you would like to upgrade, Ryzen 5 5600X or Ryzen 7 5800 are good choices but I'd personally keep your r5 3600, especially as DDR5 is lurking around the corner in the next few years. I know thats a lot but if you can hold on to your Ryzen 5 3600 (which will last a while), then you can save money and upgrade directly to DDR5 unless its overpriced.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:27 PM
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I think you are fine for most use cases. As others have mentioned the only bottleneck will come at high framerate situations or games where you were CPU bottlenecked before like civ or cities skylines. The main bottleneck from graphics comes with the cpu not being able to give the GPU instructions fast enough. This is exclusively based on the number of frames needed, not how detailed those frames have to be. So the bottlenecks only come when asking for a lot of frames.
I play some Civ and Cities: Skylines, but I feel like those sorts of games don't really need high framerates.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:44 PM
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The 5800X is an inefficient hotbox in comparison to the 3000-series & all other 5000-series CPUs. I would hold out on ugprading if I were you personally if the 5800X is your most likely upgrade option. The 3600X won't treat you that badly, and it probably runs cooler than the 5800X will. Almost every forum user I've talked to that has a 5800X said they run much hotter than any other 5000-series CPU, reviews also show that. If you're focused purely on gaming, the 5600X is a good alternative, if you need the core count, a 5900X would be better and run cooler.
Also you'll definitely need a motherboard upgrade. Fortunately good B550 motherboards aren't THAT expensive these days.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:48 PM
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Probably at lower resolutions such as 1080p, but at 1440p or 4k your 3600 should be fine.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 3:51 PM
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Still waiting to know what your current video card is.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 4:34 PM
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The 5800X is an inefficient hotbox in comparison to the 3000-series & all other 5000-series CPUs. I would hold out on ugprading if I were you personally if the 5800X is your most likely upgrade option. The 3600X won't treat you that badly, and it probably runs cooler than the 5800X will. Almost every forum user I've talked to that has a 5800X said they run much hotter than any other 5000-series CPU, reviews also show that. If you're focused purely on gaming, the 5600X is a good alternative, if you need the core count, a 5900X would be better and run cooler.
Also you'll definitely need a motherboard upgrade. Fortunately good B550 motherboards aren't THAT expensive these days.
Do you mean a motherboard upgrade in general or just if I got a newer CPU? I've read that PCIe 4.0 doesn't really make a difference with 30 series cards.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 4:38 PM
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Still waiting to know what your current video card is.
A 3070 FE I managed to get back in January. Selling it to a friend after I upgrade.
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Re: Should I upgrade my CPU to go with a 3080ti?
Sunday, June 06, 2021 4:42 PM
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Still waiting to know what your current video card is.
A 3070 FE I managed to get back in January. Selling it to a friend after I upgrade.
I'd upgrade the motherboard and get a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive. Already posted a motherboard and this is a great PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive for the speed it has and the price. It's on sale at $119.99 for the next 14 hours. https://www.newegg.com/samsung-500gb-980-pro/p/N82E16820147789
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