This article is referring to the RTX 3060, not the 3060 Ti. The 3060 was never going to be a good mining card for Ethereum with the 192-bit bus with GDDR6 memory and for other algos that would use the GPU, the 3584 cuda cores isn't going to do well.
 
Once Ethereum goes POS (Proof Of Stake), the 3080 will be the card to have and the rumored 3080 Ti of course would be even better. Currently the 3060 Ti isn't that good at other algos and the 3070 is borderline.
 
However, once Ethereum goes POS, there will be another crypto coin that takes it's place for mining and it's value will skyrocket. Then everyone will switch to mining that and knock the mining difficulty up. Right now with all the people mining Ethereum, it's difficulty is getting harder. Cards that only do 40MH/s are already starting to suffer as they can't keep up and turn in work shares fast enough, even 60MH/s cards are starting to see this. Usually see this at night time when people are sleeping and start mining, companies set their systems to mine after work hours, plus there are ASIC miners that can do Ethereum, which is knocking the difficulty up. Nobody is buying Ethereum ASIC systems as we know it's going POS, but there are enough out there to up the difficulty dramatically.
 
Ethereum may just go down in flames once it goes POS. The only reason IMO it holds such a value right now is because of mining. Once mining it is gone, there is really no use for it. I can't think of a place right now that I buy from that will take Ethereum as a payment method, but they do take Bitcoin.
 
Anyways, mining specific cards is not a good strategy for Nvidia. These cards would need a minimum GDDR6X 382-bit memory bus and pack a ton of cuda cores before normal people would buy them instead of a conventional graphics card. Anything under that is just a paperweight in the making.

Really sounds pretty good for gamers but the problem is people can mine on the current drivers. Nothing will probably happen with new drivers that miners will need as it’s likely to be updated to get games working better then to increase mining speed.

im saying better than gddr6x because at 110c it's getting pretty hot
 
they need to really design a separate line FOR MINING with ram specs HIGHER than you need for Gaming
that and you may need better cooling for the ram than current cards provide - ie like watercooling
 cmp30hx 4x 25MH(125 watt each) is 100MH for 500Watt
 one 3090 running 350watts is 105MH
 
AYE the smaller cards be cheaper but your power usage is higher over long haul the 3090 is better choice
 
 

Xavier Zepherious
 
second ...how do they get stock out the door when we don't have stock Now?????
just where are the FABs gonna appear from - lala land??? 
 

I suspect here's a bunch of 3070/80/90 chips that didn't bin for retail gaming level production but will work for mining. 

Should be an interesting release of drivers coming up.  What if the driver is not updated, can the card still detect mining?

nVidia is taking over the world.
They just bought Arm.
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-to-acquire-arm-for-40-billion-creating-worlds-premier-computing-company-for-the-age-of-ai?ncid=afm-chs-44270&ranMID=44270&ranEAID=a1LgFw09t88&ranSiteID=a1LgFw09t88-2pfGiU3MuzH2efmO.2QcjQ
 
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they have a cryptomining dept where they run a whole bunch of cards for themselves.
They would always have the latest hardware at the cheapest prices, and basically this would be a QA dept that they could write off.

GimliSonOfGLoin
nVidia specifically called out EVGA as one of the AIB that will be producing CMPs. I wonder how long before EVGA announces their lineup of CMPs and adds it to their product line for pre-order/notification.
 
Also I do believe that's a way for nVidia to get better yields out of the 30-series wafers. They'll be able to use some of the dies that don't quite pass GPU certification in those cards without impacting the availability of actual graphics cards.
 
 

From what I have gathered is these cards will be missing the RT and Tensor cores, plus probably no video out ports.

kram36
 
From what I have gathered is these cards will be missing the RT and Tensor cores, plus probably no video out ports.

 
Yeah, that's what I meant. Dies that don't have enough good RT and Tensor cores will get re-purposed for these.

donta1979
I just saw an article on tweaktown about them. I do not see them being sought after by miners. Miners love our gaming GPU’s because when they are done with them and the next new shiny card is out or about to come out they can turn around and sell their cards getting some/most/all/profit in money back.

All depends on how much they sell for. If you can get a 90HX for half the price of a 3080 (comparable hash rate) then it could make more sense to buy the 90HX, especially considering the cooling solution will probably be designed to cool the memory more than anything else. 

NVIDIA Crypto Mining Processor 90HX card is based on Ampere GA102-100 GPU

 
We receive a confirmation from a board partner that only one CMP model is based on Ampere.
 
We have a solid confirmation on the CMP series from our source. Only one out of four CMP HX graphics cards will feature Ampere architecture, which means that only one card will utilize Samsung 8nm process. The CMP 90HX is based on a PG132 board (the same as RTX 3080) and it will feature GA102-100 GPU. This model will have 320W and 10GB by default. Our source has no information on the memory type yet nor how many CUDA cores does this chip has.
Meanwhile, CMP 30HX, 40HX, and 50HX are all based on 12nm Turing architecture. We have already seen confirmation on 30HX and 40HX through the driver update. NVIDIA has already provided the support for these two mining cards, while CMP 50HX and 90HX are not expected to launch till Q2. The 50HX is in fact based on TU102 GPU-100 GPU and the board design is a derivative of RTX 2080 Ti (PG150).
The name of new CMP mining GPUs reflects what we saw during the previous mining boom. Nearly 3 years ago NVIDIA launched its mining-oriented P104-100 and P106-100 models, which were only available through the board partners.
NVIDIA mining cards do not offer the same specifications as their gaming counterparts. The specifications are not set in stone, but we are trying to get more details on that. It is expected that mining GPUs have unfunctional or broken Tensor, RT, TMUs, or ROPs. Which renders them unfit for the GeForce badge, but still good enough to serve as a salve in a mining farm doing complex mathematical equations rewarded in cryptocurrency.
NVIDIA based mining cards lack display connectors and often offer the cheapest cooling solutions that the manufacturer has a surplus of.
 
https://videocardz.com/ne...n-ampere-ga102-100-gpu

This shows a total lack of understanding the problem. Instead of disabling it, they cripple it when Bitcoin is something like $50,000 right now? Crippled processing is still profitable, so this is all misdirection. They want you to buy the dedicated mining cards from them. This is all viral marketing nonsense. They don't want the supply of the cards to be more than the demand. At this point i believe they have a hand in this nonsense.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti not for miners

 
According to new information, all future GeForce RTX 30 graphics cards are to feature ETH mining limiter.
 
A known leaker who revealed NVIDIA Ampere specifications months ahead of the initial launch has confirmed that the next installment in GeForce RTX 30 series, the RTX 3080 Ti will also feature a crypto mining limiter. According to a tweet posted by @kopite7kimi, NVIDIA will be implementing the same mining limiter that debuted with GeForce RTX 3060 for their next high-end model.
This information should not be a surprise to anyone, because NVIDIA hinted that future RTX 30 releases may have this technology built into the firmware. We already independently confirmed that NVIDIA has recently provided this update on RTX 3080 Ti to AIBs. What Kopite did not post yet is that this feature will also launch for (as it is now listed in the roadmap) GeForce RTX 3070 Ti.
 
https://videocardz.com/ne...urrency-mining-limiter

really last survey i saw
13 % it won't make a diff
12 % thought it would help
75% thought Nvidia is on the wrong track gimping hardware - best solution would be to make more chips period
 
gimping will only hurt programmers and scientist who also will be hurt by gimping process - their are many algorithms that will be hurt by this
 
what happen to science first?  
 
 
let put the shoe on the other foot
what would people be saying if Nvidia gimped gaming so the cards could  be bought for scientific reasons - rather than playing doom - blaming doom players... so they gimp the cards
 their would be an outcry - no don't you dare gimp my cards - you can't introduce features - and then remove some if some you have a yield issue and have troubles supplying enough to everyone - so gimp one group over another??
 
CLASS ACTION SUIT COMING

Brad_Hawthorne
Nvidia is just asking for a class action suit if they released a card that was marketed as capable of one thing and they cripple it after the fact.

My thoughts exactly...is heading to that direction as per the article

Nvidia is making 3/4 of these cards from turing architecture parts that are laying around. This is actually smart of them. Obviously these mining cards will be worthless outside of mining and the stats sucks.... but if they are cheap then.... maybe worth it.

If they had a ton of samsung 8nm memory laying around and the requisite ingredients to make more 30xx cards... they would bc their goal is to make money.

Im a miner and not a gamer... and it is HELLA frustrating trying to find these cards anywhere close to retail... Im sure it is even more frustrating for gamers. 

If the price of these mining cards is not extremely attractive, then only morons will buy them and it will be a flop... but if they have the parts sitting somewhere taking up space, then they have nothing to lose. 

Whomever said that when ETH goes POS it will be 'useless' because you cannot spend it... literally has no idea of what is happening in the crypto world... On-chain DeFi protocols have turned Ethereum into one of the most interesting projects in the world. Literally no one uses ETH to buy **** in the real world... not a use case nor was it ever a use case. Also, that same person said that there will be a new PoW coin taht emerges and shoots up in value... also false. 

PoW will start dying a slow and ugly death. The commercial and enterprise use of blockchains and DeFi at large needs speed and cheap transactions. 99% of GPU mineable coins are all ready trash with no use case or liquidity. This will further be accelerated by the hash power leaving ETH focusing on them... People mining crypto actually put downside pressure on coins as miners dump them... Eth goes up in value in the face of miners dumping bc there is an actual use case (DeFi)... Even marginal coins like Grin or ETC... their profitability will be demolished if even 20% of existing ETH hash gets pointed at them when ETH goes PoS. 

This is the last great mining run... right now and for about 1.5-2 more years before ETH2.0.... enjoy it while its here... and this fact alone makes Nvidias 'uninformed' choice to roll out these "mining" cards even more hilarious... You put out a card with no resell value and old gen / dog **** hash rates... at thet top of the 9th inning of PoW mining... thinking that miners will stop running bots to get. the 60ti's/70's/80's... Nvidia is at best, completely out of touch with reality... like some people in this thread. 

Someone else referenced BTCs price as being a driver of GPU sales / Nvidias supply problem.... BTC hasnt been GPU mineable for 10+ years.