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2021/04/16 13:57:28 (permalink)
I ll run it with 10850k will 360 rad be enough for both? 
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 15:27:57 (permalink)
    You might really be pushing it with just a 360 depending on rad thickness, fin density, and fans.  If you are overclocking, then a 360 alone will not cut it even if you used Delta 120s at max rpm in push/pull configuration (you would also need hearing protection - not kidding).


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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 15:42:41 (permalink)
    Having got those it would be a shame to hamstring it with just a single 360 - you can often get a rad pretty cheap, and it's fairly easy to add another into the loop. Or buy a Mora and be done with it
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 15:54:23 (permalink)
    Yes, a MO-RA3 would work quite well.  You just have to figure out how you want to position it with your case (think three 360s stacked up on the sides).


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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:18:02 (permalink)
    One 360 radiator not enough, really?
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:24:06 (permalink)
    Should be fine imo
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:28:23 (permalink)
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    I ll run it with 10850k will 360 rad be enough for both? 


    It'll be fine, I have a total of 360mm of radiator in my rig and it's fine for both CPU and GPU. I have a 240mm radiator and a 120mm radiator in my loop. My previous CPU was a 10850K at 5Ghz and my RTX 3090 and temps were fine. CPU topped out around 65-70C load and GPU around 55-60C full load. And I live in a hot and humid climate (south FL). It's not gonna "hamstring" anything, you're not planning on going for world records are you? 

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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:33:07 (permalink)
    Well now I'm not sure if I need to add another 360 radiator lol, not going for world record but I do want good temps, that's the whole reason to get a HC card in the first place.
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:46:23 (permalink)
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    Well now I'm not sure if I need to add another 360 radiator lol, not going for world record but I do want good temps, that's the whole reason to get a HC card in the first place.

    Your temps will be fine with a single 360

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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 17:49:01 (permalink)
    While the 10850 can get a bit toasty, as long as the pump to push the coolant is sufficient you shouldn't need to over think it or need more than a 360 unless you intend to heavily overclock everything. 
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 18:29:07 (permalink)
    A single 360 Rad with CPU and GPU (both toasters).....why not just add another radiator ?
    Personally I wouldnt be happy with that at all..can you swap out the single 360 for a decent "thicker" 480 with low FPI?
     
    Not what I would do ..at the very least add another 240, better to add another 360.
     
     
    ,,,,sure your temps will be "fine" (define fine)..as in prevent thermal throttling? ....but who wants fine w a Custom Loop ????? I want cool....very cool...thats the whole point of a WC Loop...as in GPU maxing out at 45c and you wont get that with a single 360....no way!
    btw ant decent D5 pump wont play a part in this loop with a single 360 Rad.....temps throughout a loop will change very little from say 2000 RPM to 4000 RPM....its all about the Rad...FPI and Fans n considering a single 360 is ok for an AIO....its not very good at all for GPU n CPU.
     
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 19:09:02 (permalink)
    When you say heavily, do you mean more then max stable gaming oc?
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 19:25:37 (permalink)
    Really depends a lot on your goals. Will a single 360 work and keep temps low enough for good performance? Yes

    Will it keep the gpu at a temp well below what you get with an air cooled card with a really good HSF? Not very well.

    I started with a single thin 360. (5800x and 3090). It worked fine but water temp would hit 40C or a little more unless I ran the fans at max speed (Noctua F12's).

    I ended up with a 360 and 280 (both thin). That works pretty good with a air to water delta of 11-12C.

    No matter what you do, buy good fans. I replaced my Noctua F12's with A12's eventually. The A12's are soooo much better. Another cheaper choice is the Artic P12.

    Edit: and I was only running 390w on my 3090 at the time.
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 21:12:55 (permalink)
    guys just installed it and now trying to find bios for it? which 3090 bios should i use for hydro copper? hybrid one or regular ftw3 ultra one? 
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 21:17:00 (permalink)
    Might be neither, I'd wait for a hc specific bios.
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 21:20:24 (permalink)
    that sucks :( iwas ready to push card's limit 
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/04/16 21:23:22 (permalink)
    I'd messege evga_jacob on twitter and ask.
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 13:37:24 (permalink)
    not sure bro, not sure
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 15:38:07 (permalink)
    Can you run a single 360 rad for this configuration and get away with it, sure, however, I would prefer a separate loop for the GPU and CPU in order to maximize heat dispersion and efficiency. 
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 15:55:36 (permalink)
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    Can you run a single 360 rad for this configuration and get away with it, sure, however, I would prefer a separate loop for the GPU and CPU in order to maximize heat dispersion and efficiency. 


    i got another 240 and 120 rad so its like i m having 2x 360 rad in my loop and temps are great gpu hardly pass 50 C with both gpu and cpu overclocked
     
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 16:11:01 (permalink)
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    Can you run a single 360 rad for this configuration and get away with it, sure, however, I would prefer a separate loop for the GPU and CPU in order to maximize heat dispersion and efficiency. 


    i got another 240 and 120 rad so its like i m having 2x 360 rad in my loop and temps are great gpu hardly pass 50 C with both gpu and cpu overclocked
     


    Nice bet if u really pushed the card u have a great room heater for the winter time !!!
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 16:17:48 (permalink)
    Oh man! Enjoy that bad boy!

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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 16:19:22 (permalink)
    Speaking as someone that has a loop that is definitely considered "overkill" for my hardware, I would say if you're going to try to run it with just the single 360mm radiator first, run the rad with push/pull fans and see how it goes.
     
    I was going to run my system on a single 480mm x 60mm radiator setup but I ended up just adding the other radiator I had back in to the loop to be on the safe side.  Does my system actually NEED 360mm x 38 mm + 480mm x 60mm of radiator dissipation with them both being in Push/Pull?  Maybe not, but it sure does keep the temperatures nice & cool during benchmarking sessions... and gaming as well, of course.
     
    If it were me in your position, I would add a second radiator if the case will comfortably fit it.  People will tell you things like the order doesn't matter and what not, but it's really up to you, you can go full bonkers like I did, or just put it together in a way that looks as clean as possible.  Either way, adding heat dissipation is never a bad thing, though eventually you would hit a point of severely diminishing returns - afterall, you can't cool things down below ambient no matter how hard you try.

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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/05/09 19:14:21 (permalink)
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    Can you run a single 360 rad for this configuration and get away with it, sure, however, I would prefer a separate loop for the GPU and CPU in order to maximize heat dispersion and efficiency. 




    Certainly doesn't need 2 separate loops for this set-up....heck I didnt need separate loops for an OC'd 3930K or 9900K running 2 x 1080Ti's w Water Blocks, but 3 radiators did the trick!
    OP should definitely add another 360 radiator, no doubt.
     
    The yields adding push / pull will be extremely minimal, as in 2c - 3c gain (I went down this path years ago), far better off to choose optimal radiator / fans, as low FPI (Fins per inch) and low RPM high static pressure fans.
    GPU / CPU at idle indicating ambient temps means you "nailed it"....gpu under full load hitting a max temp of 45c w ambient around 20c is another "nailed it"...
    Im running 480, 360 n 240 Rads (all low fpi with 1200 RPM high static pressure Noctua Fans), single D5 Vario pump set to 3200 RPM...
    Loop holds 1.8L liquid full.
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    - 9900k at 5.1 Ghz (All Cores) +1.325v peaks out around 60c in games CPU dependant...50c in other games...
     
    Add a single 360 Rad and your golden.
     
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/06/08 11:07:53 (permalink)
    it should be
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/06/08 11:19:13 (permalink)
    I would add a 2nd radiator dropped my temps down 10c,If you add a 2nd radiator I would suggest you go from cpu out to the 2nd rad then into video card.

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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/06/08 11:59:06 (permalink)
    If you wish to be safe and have case space Id recomend getting a standalone WC loop for the card if you plan to do heavy OC.
    Grats on your delivery & purchase!
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/06/08 12:54:17 (permalink)
    There is a reason the Kingpin Hybrid comes with a 360mm instead of a 240/280.
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    Re: just got delivery of 3090 hydro copper 2021/06/10 14:29:20 (permalink)
    Congratulations!
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