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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3397787/amd-ryzen-9-cpu-radeon-rx-5000-series-graphics-cards.html AMD Monday dropped its long-awaited 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X at Computex on Monday, saying that it will outpace Intel’s 12-core CPUs for almost a third to half the price—and that’s just an inkling of AMD’s 7nm onslaught against Intel and Nvidia. Also announced: - “RDNA,” AMD’s new graphics architecture brand for its next-gen "Navi" core, which will be called the Radeon RX 5700 graphics card and go head-to-head with Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 2070.
- An 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 3700X with stupidly good power efficiency of 65 watts.
- An 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 3800X that all but erases any gaming deficits the CPUs have had versus the Intel competition.
- The world’s first PCIe 4.0-ready PC parts
- A dual-processor “Rome” Epyc server running laps on a dual-processor Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 server.
The most anticipated news, though, was AMD's Ryzen 9 3900X CPU. Su said the 12-core Ryzen 9 will have a boost clock of 4.6GHz with a base clock of 3.8GHz. The Ryzen 9 3900X will also pack in 70MB of cache and cost just $499. That's incredibly aggressive, especially when you consider that rival Intel wants $1,199 for its 12-core Core i9-9920X. Intel's core-count per dollar value looks even worse when you consider that AMD claims the Ryzen 9 3900X will outperform it by 14 percent in single-threaded tasks in Maxon’s new Cinebench R20 and 6 percent in multi-threaded tasks. It’s not just Cinebench R20 either. During the keynote, Su showed the Ryzen 9 3900X throwing down with $1,199 Core i9-9920X in a Blender demonstration too. The Ryzen 7 3700X’s TDP is just as stunning though. With 8-cores and 16-threads, it’ll produce just 65W of heat and hit a boost clock of 4.4GHz with a base clock of 3.6GHz. A comparable 8-core, 8-thread Core i7-9700K will put out 95 watts (and often exceed that). AMD said with the PCIe 4.0 support in the new Ryzen chips, combined with the PCIe 4.0 in X570 motherboards, plus the PCIe 4.0 in its new Radeon RX 5700, you basically have all the makings of the “world’s first PCIe 4.0-ready gaming PC.” The Radeon RX 5000 family (with the 50-00 name deriving from the company’s milestone anniversary this year). The first GPU to hit the road will be the Radeon RX 5700, which will go toe-to-toe with Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 2070. As AMD’s first 7nm GPU, Su said the card will hit higher clock speeds and use less power than the current Radeon generation. the Radeon RX 5700 cards should be available by July, and the company is holding an event at the annual E3 gaming show on June 10, where we’d expect to hear more details, including pricing, about Navi’s consumer form. AMD is looking very strong in my personal opinion.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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This sounds promising, if AMD fixes their implementation of AVX like I hear they are going to/did, and maybe give us dual AVX512 12 cores for 500$ I am in. If their video cards can crunch DP data like the RadeonVII for a lower start point, I am in. I have not bought an all AMD rig in quite a while. Looking forward to it.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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bill1024 This sounds promising, if AMD fixes their implementation of AVX like I hear they are going to/did, and maybe give us dual AVX512 12 cores for 500$ I am in. If their video cards can crunch DP data like the RadeonVII for a lower start point, I am in. I have not bought an all AMD rig in quite a while. Looking forward to it.
The best navi should be slightly better than the existing RTX 2070. I wanted to buy the Radeon VII but the complaints about fan noise in the reviews stopped me.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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bill1024 This sounds promising, if AMD fixes their implementation of AVX like I hear they are going to/did, and maybe give us dual AVX512 12 cores for 500$ I am in. If their video cards can crunch DP data like the RadeonVII for a lower start point, I am in. I have not bought an all AMD rig in quite a while. Looking forward to it.
I'm in on Ryzen and the 3900X. Already working on a new system. Not to sure on the RX5700 stuff though. Guess I'll see what independent reviewers say. Also curious to see what the 3900X's will top out on as far as memory speeds. The thought of 5000Mhz ram is exciting if it becomes anywhere near affordable. Also the M.2 speeds of PCI-e 4.0... this should be fun.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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That Ryzen, they are talking 70mb cache. Now that is very interesting.. That would keep large tasks on the CPU and not use system memory.. That would be a huge increase in production.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Looks like the rumored 3850X name for the 16c/32t wasn't accurate if 3900X is the 12c chip.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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That Ryzen 9 3900X is pretty impressive, even more so at that price. I wonder how Intel are going to answer to that ...or just more of the "but we're Intel, so... give us your money!" - I don't think that's going to fly much longer Intel. How can AMD produce such a CPU at $500 when Intel can't do it at more than twice the price? At some point even the more hard core Intel fans are going to start asking questions, and it seems that point may have arrived. Get your crap together Intel, or drop your prices - better yet, do both. NVidia should be watching this closely and learning from it, lest they end up putting their head in the same noose.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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It's been a great run with X58 & 32nm chips. I'll definitely be jumping to AMD for Ryzen 2 3K series. Whether for their Thread Ripper parts, if they come out, or for their mainstream.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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529th It's been a great run with X58 & 32nm chips. I'll definitely be jumping to AMD for Ryzen 2 3K series. Whether for their Thread Ripper parts, if they come out, or for their mainstream.
Lisa Su confirmed more threadripper parts are coming. No date though. General consensus is they pushed it back for two reasons. 1 keep it from further straining 7nm supply of chiplets. 2 Further develop the X499(?) Platform so that it has more differentiation from x570. Maybe revising the chipset to add capability which would significantly delay Mobo manufacturers this late in the game.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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 . I am on the Ryzen wagon too. i can not deny the appealing tech, features and price
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:26 AM
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AMD's comeback keeps on cooking, to think in 2016 the company was almost dead..... Toot toot, the AMD train keeps going!
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Asrock X570 Tiachi has thunderbolt 3 support also :-0
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Believe it or not, but I think I'm sold on the 3800X or 3900X processor. When the reviews come out, that'll be depend which one I choose. The R9 3850X is nice too but the price is going to probably be significantly higher - or not too bad. This was the one I originally wanted because of IPC.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Very cool, the prices are awesome and the power draw is great. AMD is doing pretty great work with their chiplets
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Man, if the IPC on these is really enough to push these chips up the single threaded benchmark list at Passmark, I'm so in on either the 3800 or preferably that 3900X. I'll be sticking with Nvidia for GPU's though. I just bought my Gsync monitor last year and really don't want to have to swap it out for something else. The only possible way that might happen is my second monitor is an older smaller 1080p so if I upgraded it I could do a 27" 1440p freesync and make the gsync my secondary where the gsync wouldn't matter.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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529th It's been a great run with X58 & 32nm chips. I'll definitely be jumping to AMD for Ryzen 2 3K series. Whether for their Thread Ripper parts, if they come out, or for their mainstream.
Threadripper is coming (according to AMD) before the end of the year. That should give modders plenty of time to save some cash.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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I spent a wad on a new 4K IPS panel with HDR capability so that image quality would be improved. A surprising number of old games are playable at 4K on my GTX 1060 I still have lots of pesos for a new motherboard etc
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Lets hope the price to performance keeps driving better Value to the customer on all brands
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Cool GTX Lets hope the price to performance keeps driving better Value to the customer on all brands
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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X570 + 3800 or 3900 here I come in July .... and it's my Birthday month , so convincing the wife as a present to myself should be easy/ peasy .. 
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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aka_STEVE_b X570 + 3800 or 3900 here I come in July .... and it's my Birthday month , so convincing the wife as a present to myself should be easy/ peasy .. 
Man I'm sooooo glad I waited instead of jumping on the 9700K and Z390. I'll probably try to convince myself to save a few $$$ and do the 3800X, but unless there's some single thread performance issue (i.e. slower) with the 3900X vs it, I'm probably going to just do the 3900X. Double the cache with only 50% more cores seems like a no brainer. It's supposed to be evenly split 6 and 6 because they're using two 8 core chiplets with 2 cores on each disabled.
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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My R5 2400G compares with the i7-8400 which means I do not really need more CPU but my GTX 1060 is working hard to play games at 4K
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:11 PM
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So maybe a 16core 3950x? Threadripper on Zen2 should be insane if the chipset gets the treatment and like 60 PCIE gen 4 lanes. Probably delayed on account of 96watts ~heat for all 60 PCIE lanes. Redesign to mitigate? Ready to pull the trigger on the 3900x and a CH8. Will probably bench it until the 16 core releases and then put the 3900X in the CH7 just for fun. Even talked my Father in-law into 3900x for new build. Should be awesome-ish
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Nereus, what are an ideal number of lanes per item? How many types of devices could be used without running out of PCIe lanes?
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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Wow, it looks like Intel isn't gonna have any real response to AMD for at least a year, maybe two. If all they can come up with right now is i9-9900KS Chernobyl Edition, then yeah I dunno... That 3900X is looking beastly, 12 cores on 7nm and boosts to 4.6GHz for $500! It's too bad my X58 motherboard crapped out on me last year, I would have definitely waited for X570/3900X instead of the Z370/8700k I have now, especially with all the security vulnerabilities etc... Hmm, I reckon I just may have to pass my Intel hot potato to a buddy (at a friendly price, ofc) sometime in the near future
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
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I really con't wait for 7/7/19 I'm just looking forward to more cores for [link=mailto:F@H]F@H[/link].
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Re: AMD flexes 7nm muscle with a 12-core Ryzen 9 CPU and Radeon RX 5000 graphics cards
Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:58 PM
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Nereus Ryzen 9 3900X; 40 PCIe lanes is the sum of the CPU's 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes (16 for the GPU, 4 for storage, 4 for the chipset), plus the X570 chipset's 16 lanes.

This is X570 board dependent, some of the cheaper boards just have PCI-E Gen 3 out of the chipset. Most though do have 40 Gen 4 lanes.
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