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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3950x-vs-intel-i9-9980xe-geekbench,39640.html
 
A PC said to be using the yet to be released 16-core, 32-thread AMD Ryzen 9 3950X CPU appears to beat the 18-core, 36-thread Intel Core i9-9980XE in multi-core performance in a leaked Geekbench test result. The AMD CPU's 61,072 score is the highest we’ve ever seen from a consumer CPU.

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X vs. Intel Core i9-9980XE: Geekbench Results
Perhaps the craziest part about this is that Intel’s 18-core CPU sells for about $2,000, while AMD’s 3950X will be less than half of that at $750.

The results show the AMD chip besting the Intel one in single-core score (5,868 vs. 5,395). But it's the 3950X's multi-core score that's especially impressive, with a 31% advantage over the i9-9980XE, which scores (on average) only 46,618 points, according to Geekbench.

 
 
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 08:30:14 (permalink)
    I think its really going to be September on the 3950x though. Was a little confusing as Lisa Su said at the end of the keynote paraphrase "all of these products available 7/7" right after she had said 3950x available September.
     
    Personally I will end up with the 3900x and the 3950x and still save 750$ over the 9980xe.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 08:40:21 (permalink)
    I would like to see more tests but if this holds true then it’s a very good option.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 08:54:56 (permalink)
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    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3950x-vs-intel-i9-9980xe-geekbench,39640.html
     
    A PC said to be using the yet to be released 16-core, 32-thread AMD Ryzen 9 3950X CPU appears to beat the 18-core, 36-thread Intel Core i9-9980XE in multi-core performance in a leaked Geekbench test result. The AMD CPU's 61,072 score is the highest we’ve ever seen from a consumer CPU.

    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X vs. Intel Core i9-9980XE: Geekbench Results
    Perhaps the craziest part about this is that Intel’s 18-core CPU sells for about $2,000, while AMD’s 3950X will be less than half of that at $750.

    The results show the AMD chip besting the Intel one in single-core score (5,868 vs. 5,395). But it's the 3950X's multi-core score that's especially impressive, with a 31% advantage over the i9-9980XE, which scores (on average) only 46,618 points, according to Geekbench.

     
     
    tasty - now I have to wait until mid July or so before getting everything in....




    This was also an engineering sample running at lower clock speeds then the final version announced at E3. 3.3/4.3 vs final 3.5/4.7
     
    Its going to be fast. Up to 5% faster than stock 9900k in single core and faster than a 18 core 9980xe in multi-thread... and that was done on a X470 board which is nice to see. 
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 09:02:51 (permalink)
    I hope this is true. That means a great deal of performance for far less cash than Intel.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 09:22:41 (permalink)
    My R5 2400G is on the CPU list for X570 motherboards so I do not need a CPU so much as I was considering the MSI MPG X570 Gaming motherboard which is now in their catalog partially
     

      


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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 11:00:50 (permalink)
    i just wish evga would start making amd boards again.
    im really thinking amd is going to pick up the market for the next few years,
    and over through intel in the cpu market.

     
     
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 11:42:22 (permalink)
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    I would like to see more tests but if this holds true then it’s a very good option.



    Option? Christ, at that price/performance output compared to its Intel counterpart it's the only CHOICE.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 12:26:55 (permalink)
    But how does it hold up in gaming vs Intel. 
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 12:47:23 (permalink)
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    But how does it hold up in gaming vs Intel. 



    At a $1250 premium that question is redundant.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 13:13:17 (permalink)
    Honestly, Sajin, look at the charts. It meets and exceeds the 9900K in games. Every game is different as some are optimized for one or the other and yield better results.

    Prior AMD CPUs wouldn't be a match for Intel in gaming but Zen 2 is different. I'm an Intel guy and I'm saying this, because it's true. Not to mention all these Intel CPU mitigations, I'm way more inclined to go AMD this round.

    I'm certainly waiting for the pro reviews but I believe it'll concrete the evidence.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 13:27:08 (permalink)
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    Honestly, Sajin, look at the charts. It meets and exceeds the 9900K in games. Every game is different as some are optimized for one or the other and yield better results.

    Prior AMD CPUs wouldn't be a match for Intel in gaming but Zen 2 is different. I'm an Intel guy and I'm saying this, because it's true.

    Very true. lets just assume a 5.2Ghz overclocked 9900k is 1-3% faster than an overclocked 3900x in an overall average gaming benchmark. At the same price does it really matter anymore... you will be getting so much more for the money.... lets not get overhyped though.. I am sure intel will still be better than AMD at something.... Quicksync comes to mind :-) 
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 13:58:49 (permalink)
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    i just wish evga would start making amd boards again.
    im really thinking amd is going to pick up the market for the next few years,
    and over through intel in the cpu market.




    Intel has focused mostly on the server market so AMD is picking up on the slack and people are finding AMD processors are actually not bad.
     
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 19:23:16 (permalink)
    AMD is nuking Intel's best CPU with their Ryzen 9 3950X actually
    https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-16-core-cpu-benchmark-leak-crushes-intel-core-i9-9980xe/

    They are destroying Intel's best 2K USD CPU and AMD's offer is 750 USD, I kinda like this also AMD always made good CPU's, a slower CPU doesn't have to mean it's a bad CPU
    But when it comes to this 16 core / 32 thread beat Intel's CPU's are pretty much chanceless
     
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 19:44:01 (permalink)
    The Pentium was a popular processor when it launched but competition with AMD has been ongoing for a long time.

      


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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 20:32:10 (permalink)
    So much AMD hype of 7nm vs 14nm and 14 still throwing decent punches.  All Intel has to do is flinch it's pinky and the shows over, if they wanted too.  My guess is, Intel is purposely letting AMD get ahead and possibly the same from Nvidia because they've been almost cornering every part of the market and that looks bad with the 'anti-trust' officials so why not let them get ahead to get the heat off the other two's backs, if you will. 
     
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 20:38:23 (permalink)
    AMD has scored with Cray for a supercomputer contract so AMD has been able to compete.
     
    One machine used AMD CPUs and nVidia GPUs to make a hybrid system.
     
    Given the price of these machines, can it play Crysis or not?
     
     

      


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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/13 21:11:59 (permalink)
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    So much AMD hype of 7nm vs 14nm and 14 still throwing decent punches.  All Intel has to do is flinch it's pinky and the shows over, if they wanted too.  My guess is, Intel is purposely letting AMD get ahead and possibly the same from Nvidia because they've been almost cornering every part of the market and that looks bad with the 'anti-trust' officials so why not let them get ahead to get the heat off the other two's backs, if you will. 
     
    No-I-mean-posse?




    I am sure your being sarcastic, but in all reality Intel wouldn't have thrown billions on billions of dollars into converting 14nm fabs to 10nm fabs then back again to 14nm if they weren't truly having manufacturing issues. Intel 10nm desktop parts are still years away. Intel's 14nm processes will probably go down as the best process node ever, but it is at its limit now, compared to TSMC 7nm its power usage and lower density can't compete.
     
    AMD has the luxury of using a process that basically Apple pioneers and pays for. LG and a few others contracted Intel to build on the 10nm node, none of that ever happened.
     
    Intel literally lost all their Custom foundry 10nm customers, and pulled out of the custom foundry business. Intel has been having process issues for a while, this is also why Apple had to go crawling back to Qualcomm for modems, Intel failed to keep their promise of making a 5G modem. Intel is a great company and by no means done but they have definitely hit a speed bump that will take years to recover from.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 06:21:07 (permalink)
    ..and let's not forget all the security issues mostly with Intel , as of late.  ...and all the slow down patches they've had to make...
     
     
    I'm going AMD this time for sure....  as soon as I can get a hold of all the parts . Hopefully mid-july 

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 06:39:54 (permalink)
    I already have AMD Threadripper but I'm going to wait for 3rd gen Threadripper and maybe another motherboard if PCI 4.0 is available. 
     
    This Ryzen 3950X is going to be awesome. 

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 07:24:24 (permalink)
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    But how does it hold up in gaming vs Intel. 



    At a $1250 premium that question is redundant.




    I would say "irrelevant"..because I don't think Gaming performance would be worth the extra 1250..but in reality, I agree with you...

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 07:45:07 (permalink)
    Yeah this is great news...I think for me, the sweet spot will be the 3900X for my VM box (Will replace my 5960X). But if I needed an absolute beast, that 3950X would be the ONLY choice as stated.  As for gaming currently, I'll stick with the 8700k.  I'm open to purchasing an AMD chip for gaming if/when they offer something better than I have.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 09:40:57 (permalink)
    If EVGA makes some AMD MBs that are blingy and full of featuers, I might be interested in the 3950X but until than, don't think it's happening for me unless of course Intel shows up to counter AMD with a very 'super' mature 14nm with tons of bells and whistles for a cheaper price. 
     
    Didn't someone say that the yields should be way better allowing intel to possibly drop the price?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 09:55:30 (permalink)
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    If EVGA makes some AMD MBs that are blingy and full of featuers, I might be interested in the 3950X but until than, don't think it's happening for me unless of course Intel shows up to counter AMD with a very 'super' mature 14nm with tons of bells and whistles for a cheaper price. 
     
    Didn't someone say that the yields should be way better allowing intel to possibly drop the price?




    Ya I am sure by now Intel's 14nm yields are fantastic, the issue is the 14nm die size is so large, even with great yields they get less per wafer. If intel lowers the price of a 9900k to $300-ish then its a very compelling option, it wouldn't have pcie 4.0 but that isn't a deal breaker for most. Hopefully this will happen, competition is great for us consumers. 
     
    What Intel really needs to worry about is their current and upcoming X299 processor line.... they are going to have a hard time convincing people to purchase those.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/14 10:04:25 (permalink)
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    If EVGA makes some AMD MBs that are blingy and full of featuers, I might be interested in the 3950X but until than, don't think it's happening for me unless of course Intel shows up to counter AMD with a very 'super' mature 14nm with tons of bells and whistles for a cheaper price. 
     
    Didn't someone say that the yields should be way better allowing intel to possibly drop the price?




    Ya I am sure by now Intel's 14nm yields are fantastic, the issue is the 14nm die size is so large, even with great yields they get less per wafer. If intel lowers the price of a 9900k to $300-ish then its a very compelling option, it wouldn't have pcie 4.0 but that isn't a deal breaker for most. Hopefully this will happen, competition is great for us consumers. 
     
    What Intel really needs to worry about is their current and upcoming X299 processor line.... they are going to have a hard time convincing people to purchase those.


    +1 to that

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/17 08:27:24 (permalink)
    Assuming Intel will drop prices is probably going to end in disappointment. IMO they don't want to partake in a role reversal where the Intel products are perceived as the budget option.  Also as was demonstrated over the 7 years of i7 nonsense of year over year performance gains ~8.5 percent or less. If you add it all up its just depressing.
     
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     Best case scenario is found in rendering perf 78%(2600k) to 129%(7700K) in 6 years or 51% = 8.5% PERF gain year/year. This is not innovation it is a complacency.  Most the gains are due to clock rate increases and when you look at 2017-2019 the only measurable perf gains are faster clocks and cores...
     
    Personally CPU agnostic and just care about generational performance improvements. This is whats exciting about AMD. Much larger strides year over year at a lower cost... Ryzen 1800x vs 2700x negligible perf over perf y/y but they follow-up with Zen 2. If the cycle continues and I don't see anything compelling out of Intel until late 2020 or 2021 so be it. At least AMD is applying pressure. Intel was talking about mainstream 16core cpu's back in 2007. Maybe they will finally release a 16 core mainstream chip 15 years later...
     
    At the end of the day I own multiples of the 9900k out of respect for Intel finally delivering on a 10 year+old promise... And the need for the ability to heat my basement in the Winter.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/17 09:55:28 (permalink)
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    Personally CPU agnostic and just care about generational performance improvements. This is whats exciting about AMD. Much larger strides year over year at a lower cost... Ryzen 1800x vs 2700x negligible perf over perf y/y but they follow-up with Zen 2. If the cycle continues and I don't see anything compelling out of Intel until late 2020 or 2021 so be it. At least AMD is applying pressure. Intel was talking about mainstream 16core cpu's back in 2007. Maybe they will finally release a 16 core mainstream chip 15 years later...
     
    At the end of the day I own multiples of the 9900k out of respect for Intel finally delivering on a 10 year+old promise... And the need for the ability to heat my basement in the Winter.




    I agree Intel was milking but that's because AMD was missing or any competitor for that matter. 
     
    I wish we had 3-4+ companies in total for CPUs/GPUs to pick from and compete against.  Now that would be something.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/28 17:30:34 (permalink)

     
    16 core Engineering sample on LN2 at 5.4 Ghz Cinebench R15
     
    Score 5501 which is higher then the previous 16 core record of 5320 by an Intel core i9 9960X at 6 GHZ on LN2.
     
    Its a pointless benchmark for most but interesting. Hwbot exist because people like competing and pushing stuff to the limit just for the hell of it.
     
     
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test 2019/06/28 20:40:07 (permalink)
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    AMD is nuking Intel's best CPU with their Ryzen 9 3950X actually
    https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-16-core-cpu-benchmark-leak-crushes-intel-core-i9-9980xe/

    They are destroying Intel's best 2K USD CPU and AMD's offer is 750 USD, I kinda like this also AMD always made good CPU's, a slower CPU doesn't have to mean it's a bad CPU
    But when it comes to this 16 core / 32 thread beat Intel's CPU's are pretty much chanceless
     
    More fun here for those wondering
    https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-16-core-cpu-5-ghz-overclock-ddr4-5100-mhz-world-record/

    Intel's last best CPU was their Pentium !!! series after that it got pretty boring for my doings if I have to be very honest.



     


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