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1080 SC not overclocking

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Tuesday, March 05, 2019 2:34 AM (permalink)
So, i may know the answer but wanted some advice first. Im on my 3rd RMA for this damn card and im trying my hand at overclocking for the first time. First card had noisy fan bearings, second had major graphic glitches in games, now im on this one.
 
Im trying to overclock to get a little more performance on Project cars 2 VR. (using XOC)
Voltage set to 100%
Power Target set to 120%
Temps at idle about 30c
Temps under load mid 50c
 
Now initially i set my gpu offset to +125, ran a 3D mark test and went fine. Tried bumping it up to +130 and immediately failed, screen goes black and 3D mark says an error occurred. Went back to +125 and failed again. Started back tracking and at +100 it passed. Tried to run a second time and it failed immediately. eventually i backtracked all the way to +30 where it passed multiple times and played Project cars 2 VR all day with no issues.
 
Now here i am several days later and it wont even pass a 3D test at +30. Ive tried +20, +10, ect and it fails. I did notice my voltage under load is pegged at 1.093 (the limit). So im just curious if this card is junk or if im doing something wrong here. I know every card is different and this is my first time overclocking but ive done a bunch of research and plenty of guys are running +100 and up. And i find it odd that i can hit a mark once and then will never hit it again.
 
ps: also tried benchmarking in Heaven with same results.
post edited by Sajin - Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:08 AM
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    Sajin
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:07 AM (permalink)
    What psu do you have, and how old is it?
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:12 AM (permalink)
    Its a 750W thermaltake, i think it just turned 1 year old. 
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    Ive done a lot of research but the voltage is the only thing that still confuses me. What i do know is these cards are factory limited to 1.093 so i cant damage it with over voltage. But i still dont understand if its benificial to just max the voltage or slowly increase it. 

    Either way, i set voltage back to 70%, GPU offset to +10, it gets through the intro scene in 3D mark but fails as soon as the graphics test starts.
     
    Did notice even with voltage at 70% it was still peaking at 1.093 at times.
    post edited by Aaron.Dieringer - Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:14 AM
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:13 AM (permalink)
    Sounds like you just got a junk card imo.
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:17 AM (permalink)
    Thats what i was afraid of but pretty sure what was gonna be the answer 
     
    these advanved RMA's and shipping are getting expensive  lol
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:33 AM (permalink)
    Which i cant help but wonder, can i even RMA a card because it wont overclock?
     
    Voltage 100%
    Power target 120%
    GPU offset +20
    Fails...
     
    Voltage 100% 
    Power target 100%
    GPU offset +20
    Fails...
     
    Voltage 70%
    Power target 100%
    GPU offset +20
    Fails...
     
    Voltage 70% 
    Power target 70%
    GPU offset +20
    Fails...
     
    All of which i still notice volts peak at 1.093 at times and hover around 1.080
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:34 AM (permalink)
    Don't think so. The card needs to fail at stock first.
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:49 AM (permalink)
    Well i did solve one piece of the puzzle, after doing other testing its pretty apparent that 3D Mark wont run with XOC or MSI running....which is completely absurd considering its a benchmark tool and those have to be running to do any overclocking. That being said i started from scratch again with Heaven and i am back up to +30 on the gpu and +1000 on the memory. Anything past that is just completely unstable.
     
    Not exactly a spicy overclock but i gained an average of 10fps so i wont complain.....to much lol.
     
    Final result 2035/6005
    post edited by Aaron.Dieringer - Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:55 AM
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Tuesday, March 05, 2019 7:29 PM (permalink)
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    Well i did solve one piece of the puzzle, after doing other testing its pretty apparent that 3D Mark wont run with XOC or MSI running....which is completely absurd considering its a benchmark tool and those have to be running to do any overclocking. That being said i started from scratch again with Heaven and i am back up to +30 on the gpu and +1000 on the memory. Anything past that is just completely unstable.
     
    Not exactly a spicy overclock but i gained an average of 10fps so i wont complain.....to much lol.
     
    Final result 2035/6005




    It's pretty apparent you have an issue with your system if using MSI is crashing your system. I mean, you'd think that would be a massive issue for everyone right? I'm not trying to be snarky, just point out that, your system should run fine running those tools.  Do you realize that +1000 on the memory clock is actually 2ghz effective increase? Ya might consider toning that down to say +500 (or 1000mhz effective) then see where your core clock is when overclocking. Generally speaking, more is gained from higher core versus higher memory clocks.

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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Monday, March 11, 2019 9:16 PM (permalink)
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    Well i did solve one piece of the puzzle, after doing other testing its pretty apparent that 3D Mark wont run with XOC or MSI running....which is completely absurd considering its a benchmark tool and those have to be running to do any overclocking. That being said i started from scratch again with Heaven and i am back up to +30 on the gpu and +1000 on the memory. Anything past that is just completely unstable.
     
    Not exactly a spicy overclock but i gained an average of 10fps so i wont complain.....to much lol.
     
    Final result 2035/6005




    It's pretty apparent you have an issue with your system if using MSI is crashing your system. I mean, you'd think that would be a massive issue for everyone right?  I'm not trying to be snarky, just point out that, your system should run fine running those tools.  Do you realize that +1000 on the memory clock is actually 2ghz effective increase? Ya might consider toning that down to say +500 (or 1000mhz effective) then see where your core clock is when overclocking. Generally speaking, more is gained from higher core versus higher memory clocks.


     
    Well im not using MSI, just strictly XOC. But after i determined that 3D mark was only crashing when XOC was on i dug through google and there is countless forums of both MSI and XOC users reporting that 3D mark will not run with those overlays. Its not actually crashing my system, it is running fine. But 3D mark will report an error everytime i run a benchmark with XOC in the background. Wish i could find a way to run it stand alone vs a steam overlay. 
     
    And as far as the clocking goes i can only get +30 out of the core, with or without memory bumped up. I found my max core before even touching the memory but it just so happens i can max it out and still be stable. I gained an average of 5fps when going from +500 to +1000 on the memory so as long as its stable why not.
     
    But honestly at 2035 on the core thats probably all im really going to get out of an aircooled card. Dont really feel like moving the CPU radiator and dont really feel the need to add a second radiator just to increase the core clock on the gpu a little more. Overall after the OC i gained about a 10FPS average so that should give me the little VR boost i was looking for. My main concern was that the card wasnt overclocking at all, but once i determined the XOC overlay and 3D mark were my issue i did my testing using heaven and i feel a 2035 core is about on par to where it should be until i can get my temps on the GPU down. 
    post edited by Aaron.Dieringer - Monday, March 11, 2019 9:19 PM
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    Re: 1080 SC not overclocking Monday, March 11, 2019 9:57 PM (permalink)
    Dump the Steam Overlay...  download the standalone XOC
     
    Do Not run OSD ... know to cause issues
     
    + 500 - 600 RAM is very good for these cards - Your @ +1000 WOW
     
    The missing part of the puzzle is the Temps:  Room, GPU 

    Nvidia Boost 3.0 will step MHz down 13MHz at a time as your card heats --- usually around 50C the GPU Clocks start to get lowered
     
    OC is fun but takes Time & small changes
     
    If your card take two power cables -- use two separate ones & see if it is more stable --- instead of 1 cable that has two ends
     
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