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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 06:50:11
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 06:50:44
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I can't watch the video from where I am but I know for sure that the "14% more performance" is wrong... is it because of the settings used, because the drivers used, because of a bug an incompatibility or bug in a non-updated game... 14% is downright ridiculous though. They'd set Nvidia's headquarters on fire and their stock would plunge if that was true, they're not stupid enough to do something like that.
Can't wait to go home and check out benchmarks! :D
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 06:53:50
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I can't watch the video from where I am but I know for sure that the "14% more performance" is wrong... is it because of the settings used, because the drivers used, because of a bug an incompatibility or bug in a non-updated game... 14% is downright ridiculous though. They'd set Nvidia's headquarters on fire and their stock would plunge if that was true, they're not stupid enough to do something like that.
Can't wait to go home and check out benchmarks! :D
everyone is testing against the same set of games (in most cases), that NVIDIA asked for the most part, same as AMD does to establish a baseline.. but per the video paul breaks it down pretty good. Obviously RTX is not on because there are no games out that can actually use it, but in this case its fair to keep it off to maintain a baseline for testing. If you haven't watched the video I'm not sure how you can tell me his stance it it being a 14% increase in performance for a 71% cost jump is wrong.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 07:08:05
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Benches looking very good. Overclocking GPU and Memory looks excellent. Especially the memory.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 07:21:20
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 07:31:53
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RTX 2080 XC ULTRA
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 07:41:09
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So hyped to get the 2080TI in my hands (and upgrade the monitor)...
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 07:59:51
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Guys... use the YouTube share link! Put it inside the brackets [tube ] YouTu.be link [/ tube] with no spaces in the brackets or links. This will embed the video rather than having to go to different links each time. Also, videos look better embedded.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 08:14:58
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Pretty thorough review here from GN.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 08:23:17
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Pretty thorough review here from GN.
This is the one I am watching currently lol. Steve is really good at being thorough.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 08:37:56
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With DLSS enabled, FF XV runs almost on double the FPS with 2080 compared to 1080... I wish he compared the ti versions instead though. https://youtu.be/Y_usUAXRnGg
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 08:58:20
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I'm slightly annoyed at the performance of the 2080 vs 1080TI because with the shift in models/pricing the 2080 should be a bigger performance upgrade instead of just a new shiny box with the same performance as a 1080TI. I'm sure there will be benefits once fully in the wild though. The 1080TI is the performance 'bargain' now if the prices adjust at all and only want 1080p/1440p.
But for now i'm happy with the performance of the 2080TI in 4K. The 2080TI is what I wanted from the start so that hasn't changed. Now if can actually order one lol. :D
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 08:58:47
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Pretty thorough review here from GN.
I enjoyed this review. The trend is appears the same tho.. the 2080 seems to be a failure when you compare its more expensive than the 1080 TI and sometimes + - performance in comparsion. I refuse to shell out 1200 for a 2080 Ti so I think I'm just going to pick up a 1080 Ti.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:03:17
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bdary
Pretty thorough review here from GN.
I enjoyed this review. The trend is appears the same tho.. the 2080 seems to be a failure when you compare its more expensive than the 1080 TI and sometimes + - performance in comparsion. I refuse to shell out 1200 for a 2080 Ti so I think I'm just going to pick up a 1080 Ti.
I agree with everything you said. For those with 1080Ti's, I really see no reason to upgrade currently. With zero games out now that can use the new technology, it seems silly. I'm going to pick up a couple of the 2080 Ti's as an upgrade to my 1080's and see what happens. I'll see a rather large performance gain.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:23:38
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I was a bit disappointed at the results of the 2080 vs the 1080Ti as well, although not totally suprised. I think if the 2080 beat out the 1080Ti by a decent margin, Nvidia would have shown it in it's marketing campaign. There has to be some reason they didn't compare benchmarks the way they always used to. I've always upgraded every GPU generation without much thought as the performance gain was there. This time it feels like a struggle in my situation. The 1080Ti compared to the 2080 at this point is an obvious price to performance choice. I wouldn't upgrade in the same generation and I won't pay the price of a 2080Ti, so unless the spread of performance gets bigger with more mature drivers and/or new games come out using the 20xx series better, I'll have to wait and see. I currently have a 1080 FTW btw...
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:26:39
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bdary
Pretty thorough review here from GN.
This is the one I am watching currently lol. Steve is really good at being thorough.
Yes he is. I found myself pausing the video often so I could really see and let sink in what he was showing/saying...
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:30:29
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I was a bit disappointed at the results of the 2080 vs the 1080Ti as well, although not totally suprised. I think if the 2080 beat out the 1080Ti by a decent margin, Nvidia would have shown it in it's marketing campaign. There has to be some reason they didn't compare benchmarks the way they always used to.
I've always upgraded every GPU generation without much thought as the performance gain was there. This time it feels like a struggle in my situation. The 1080Ti compared to the 2080 at this point is an obvious price to performance choice. I wouldn't upgrade in the same generation and I won't pay the price of a 2080Ti, so unless the spread of performance gets bigger with more mature drivers and/or new games come out using the 20xx series better, I'll have to wait and see.
I currently have a 1080 FTW btw...
I like the 2080Ti, but the cost is prohibitive. I am not interested in the 2080 (tho the RTX is interesting in and of itself...just who's going to take advantage of it?) ......Maybe if they drivers mature (as you said) and the 2080 performs better than the 1080Ti (and by better I mean by a decent margin..it's basically the same at this point on the games I play)....I'm saving money tho... We shall see.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:37:25
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Here we also have EVGA XC Ultra
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:39:36
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:44:03
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Not worth IMHO. 1299$ no thanks. I'm happy with my GTX 1080 Ti.. so far it runs everything I throw at it. I'll probably wait for next generation.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:50:10
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
The 2080 is similar to the performance of the 1080Ti, not the 2080Ti.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:51:45
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
The 2080 is similar to the performance of the 1080Ti, not the 2080Ti.
Yup, but to get that decent performance jump to the 2080 TI you're paying almost 2x the cost (1080 ti). is it worth it? To some people sure, to others no way.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:53:25
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I am not complaining. I am coming from a 780, upgrading to a 2080, and I don't mind paying a little more for a card that is slightly better than the 1080 Ti now, but will continue to get better as Tensor Cores and AI-cores continue to be further utilized in both DLSS and other possible usages.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:53:41
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
The 2080 is similar to the performance of the 1080Ti, not the 2080Ti.
Yup, but to get that decent performance jump to the 2080 TI you're paying almost 2x the cost (1080 ti). is it worth it? To some people sure, to others no way.
Aware, just stating that his cost comparison is wrong unless he is saying that 2 x 1080Ti (2x$600) = performance of 1 x 2080Ti (1x$1200)
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:54:07
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More overpriced tech, kinda like that new $1500 phone :).
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 09:55:47
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
The 2080 is similar to the performance of the 1080Ti, not the 2080Ti.
Yup, but to get that decent performance jump to the 2080 TI you're paying almost 2x the cost (1080 ti). is it worth it? To some people sure, to others no way.
Aware, just stating that his cost comparison is wrong unless he is saying that 2 x 1080Ti (2x$600) = performance of 1 x 2080Ti (1x$1200)
Yup gotcha no worries. It is an interesting position for NVIDIA to be in right now where this biggest competitor for their own product is the previous generation. Perhaps once DLSS and ray-tracing games are out that can be bench marked those numbers may shift in the 2080's favor more..but right now it does not look like an appealing option. Heck I'm rocking the 980 TI and I'd rather save the $200-250 and go with a 1080 Ti than the 2080 even tho its newer tech.
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Re: BenchMarks are out.
2018/09/19 10:00:49
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So per Gamers Nexus, this series doesn't justify $1299 for a ti when you can get a 1080 ti used for 485-600.. And they are similar in performance! No wonder nvidia didn't allow benchmarks.
Sorry EVGA, $1299 isn't worth it if we are solely buying on a hope for future use of this tech.
The 2080 is similar to the performance of the 1080Ti, not the 2080Ti.
Yup, but to get that decent performance jump to the 2080 TI you're paying almost 2x the cost (1080 ti). is it worth it? To some people sure, to others no way.
Aware, just stating that his cost comparison is wrong unless he is saying that 2 x 1080Ti (2x$600) = performance of 1 x 2080Ti (1x$1200)
Yup gotcha no worries. It is an interesting position for NVIDIA to be in right now where this biggest competitor for their own product is the previous generation. Perhaps once DLSS and ray-tracing games are out that can be bench marked those numbers may shift in the 2080's favor more..but right now it does not look like an appealing option. Heck I'm rocking the 980 TI and I'd rather save the $200-250 and go with a 1080 Ti than the 2080 even tho its newer tech.
Yeah, there's really a LOT to consider here (not if you have a 1080Ti imho) if you are upgrading from older tech. However the 2080 looks like it comes in a VERY poor price point.
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