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I was so damn disappointed to find that my new EVGA SC 1080Ti's in SLI were barely an upgrade over my old SLI Titan X's (Maxwell). Im seeing maybe a 5-10FPS increase in gaming generally. I play at 4K games like Fallout, Witcher, Ghost Recon, The Division. If people are able to keep a constant 60FPS at 4K on Ultra settings with a single 1080Ti, then why cant I get close to that with 2? Im unsure but I believe that my Mobo is doing x8/x8 on the GPUs but I could be wrong. Please tell me where my issue lies. Im ready to upgrade the CPU and Motherboard right now. Specs- i7 4790K 4.0GHz Asus Sabertooth Mk. 2 Z97 (2) EVGA SC 1080Ti's SLI 16GB Ripjaws RAM 2TB Samsung Evo SSD Coolmax PSU 1000W NZXT H440 Case Stock fans and cooling, nothing overclocked
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:19 PM
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Are you using the new hd bridge. That may be your problem.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:25 PM
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Try a Different Driver Version, what Driver are you running? Did you do a Clean Driver Removal and run DDU to Clean up. Did you Reset your MB Bios to the Optimized or Default Settings to Force a Read on PCIe Lane Change? Is your Motherboard Bios 2702? "x8/x8" Gen3 or Gen2? How old is your "Coolmax PSU 1000W" Power Supply? As what dlomond posted are you using an HB SLI Bridge? What OS are you Running?
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:00 PM
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you should be doing X99 with those cards. PCIE lanes matter hell of a lot with that setup. And also HB bridge. I didn't even try to SLI my 1080Ti because the CPU isnt up to task
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:17 PM
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Slim415 I was so damn disappointed to find that my new EVGA SC 1080Ti's in SLI were barely an upgrade over my old SLI Titan X's (Maxwell). Im seeing maybe a 5-10FPS increase in gaming generally. I play at 4K games like Fallout, Witcher, Ghost Recon, The Division. If people are able to keep a constant 60FPS at 4K on Ultra settings with a single 1080Ti, then why cant I get close to that with 2? Im unsure but I believe that my Mobo is doing x8/x8 on the GPUs but I could be wrong. Please tell me where my issue lies. Im ready to upgrade the CPU and Motherboard right now. Specs- i7 4790K 4.0GHz Asus Sabertooth Mk. 2 Z97 (2) EVGA SC 1080Ti's SLI 16GB Ripjaws RAM 2TB Samsung Evo SSD Coolmax PSU 1000W NZXT H440 Case Stock fans and cooling, nothing overclocked
The irony in all this is you are the one who posted the "Is 2 1080 Ti's overkill?" thread. I think you answered your own question with this post. I'm one of those 60 fps with a single 1080 Ti guys...but you knew that. Your post is exactly why I stand by my opinion of it not being worth it especially if you have a top CPU. But yet someone told me that the GPU is more of a bottleneck than the CPU with 4k gaming? Doesn't look like it does it? The answers are right there in black and white and I chose not to ignore the obvious. Good luck OP.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:49 PM
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Well right away I can tell you that Im running 2 cheap Asus SLI bridges temporarily. The idiot at my Computer store swore that I needed the 2 slot HB bridge but low and behold, I need a 1 slot so now i'm waiting on it to be delivered. How much performance loss can that really cause? As for what Bcavnaugh said, I didn't understand half of what you said. I havent been with the PCMR for very long so im new to alot of those terms. Im using windows 10 and I turned on the PC with the new GPU's installed, and I went straight to my GeForce Experience and downloaded the latest driver. As for Velo-X, what kinda Mobo can I get that will do x16/x16? Is that only with the x99 motherboards and 2011-v3 chipset? My IT guy told me that the Asus Maximus IX Hero can do x16/x16 but thats not an x99 mobo. Basically i'm very close to buying a 7700K and Asus Maximus IX Hero motherboard. That should free up my PCIE lane issues right?
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:59 PM
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ALSO now the PC is shutting itself down while im gaming, its happened 3 times today. When I restart it I get this message during the bootup- "Power supply surges detected during the previous power on. Asus Anti-Surge was triggered to protect system from unstable power supply. Press F1 to run setup" Ive never had this issue before so are the GPUs pulling to much power from my PSU? My last GPU's were the Titan X's and I cant imagine they pulled less power then my 1080Tis. And this could be unrelated but while im monitoring the GPUs in Furmark, Im noticing that GPU in slot one sometimes goes past 100% TDP, while GPU2 is doing 23% TDP. And then other times GPU1 is doing less then 25% while GPU2 is doing over 100%.The temps fluctuate from 60C-80C. I cant make sense of any of it!
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 PM
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pretty much all games have terrible scaling
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:21 PM
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1. your power supply sounds to me isn't good enough to run those cards. coolmax has a bronze rating. I'd go with gold or platinum rating. 2. I'd upgrade your motherboard and cpu like you are thinking of. the hero MB does 16x 16x on it pcie slots. I have the Formula with a 7700k and I have no bottleneck what so ever.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:29 PM
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Are you running AA in your games? Not running a hb bridge can affect fps up to 10 fps.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:32 PM
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Bottlenecks are no good. I hope you can figure it out.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:48 PM
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What PSU are you using for those? Either it's faulty as someone mentioned, or it can't keep up with the power draw which can definitely cripple your SLI setup's performance. Can you run one by itself and see if you get similar errors?
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:50 PM
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Yea im gonna run one for now and see how that goes. Im also about to put in my order for NewEgg for the following- i7 7700K Asus Maximus IX Hero Corsair RMX 1000W PSU CoolerMaster CPU cooler What do you think? Anyone know what size SLI bridge that MOBO uses?
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:51 PM
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Might need to do an RMA perhaps.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:54 PM
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nvidyuh Bottlenecks are no good. I hope you can figure it out.
nvidyuh Might need to do an RMA perhaps.
nvidyuh FYI you can edit your own Posts.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 0:06 PM
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Slim415 Yea im gonna run one for now and see how that goes. Im also about to put in my order for NewEgg for the following- i7 7700K Asus Maximus IX Hero Corsair RMX 1000W PSU CoolerMaster CPU cooler What do you think? Anyone know what size SLI bridge that MOBO uses?
The 7700k runs fairly hot. Either change up your cooler, or buy it directly from silicon lottery
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 1:07 AM
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cabbage The 7700k runs fairly hot. Either change up your cooler, or buy it directly from silicon lottery
I'll second this. Definitely not a CPU you wanna cheese the cooler with... and if delidding is an option... it's worth it.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 1:11 AM
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Slim415 Yea im gonna run one for now and see how that goes. Im also about to put in my order for NewEgg for the following- i7 7700K Asus Maximus IX Hero Corsair RMX 1000W PSU CoolerMaster CPU cooler What do you think? Anyone know what size SLI bridge that MOBO uses?
The size I have on my Formula is the same as the Hero so the size you need is a 1 slot if you are going with a HB bridge from EVGA
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 2:10 AM
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cabbage The 7700k runs fairly hot. Either change up your cooler, or buy it directly from silicon lottery
I'll second this. Definitely not a CPU you wanna cheese the cooler with... and if delidding is an option... it's worth it. 
Yep. With my 7700K my radiator was blowing cold air while me CPU was hitting 80s and 90s. After the de-lid I'm not typically going over 70, and when my CPU is heating up theres hot air coming off the radiator now. Intel screwed up with the 7700K if you ask me. Much happier after the de-lid. When i get some time I'm going to do my wife's 6600K too, though it's not the fireball my 7700K was.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 2:17 AM
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If you get a 7700k, definitely delid that sucker, you'll see a 10-15 degrees C drop.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 2:45 AM
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Can you pls elaborate on "delidding my CPU". Does that void the warranty? What about the NZXT Kraken liquid cooler, im really interested in that one. Not sure if I would need the 140mm, 240mm or 280mm one. The design would flow very cleanly with my NZXT case. Reminder guys, im not planning to OC my CPU. https://www.newegg.com/Pr...x?item=N82E16835146056
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 3:20 AM
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Have you monitored the CPU usage while benchmarking and gaming? If the CPU is tapping out with the GPU's coasting along, the CPU is a bottleneck. It'll vary from game to game, at least be sure the game is SLI optimized. I know that The Witcher 3 really pushes my i5- 4690k (even at 4.7ghz) with a GTX 1080 at 1440p, often bottlenecking it depending on the area. If you do upgrade, I'd be interested in your current CPU and MB. It's the same socket as what I have now, and I want to build a Guild Wars 2 friend a good gaming PC.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 4:04 AM
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Slim415 Can you pls elaborate on "delidding my CPU". Does that void the warranty? What about the NZXT Kraken liquid cooler, im really interested in that one. Not sure if I would need the 140mm, 240mm or 280mm one. The design would flow very cleanly with my NZXT case. Reminder guys, im not planning to OC my CPU. https://www.newegg.com/Pr...x?item=N82E16835146056

You remove the IHS (I used a tool to do it safely), remove the stock paste and clean everything up real nice, add liquid ultra to the die... use a dab of Loctite gel on the 4 corners of the IHS, press it into place (using a tool for proper alignment), let it set for 2 hours, then add GCExtreme to the Kraken x62 waterblock. Reinstall CPU. Temps dropped for me about 15C... Yes it voids the warranty, but I really don't care. As said I have the Kraken x62 280mm... but if you aren't OCing you could get by for less up to you. It's a little pricey but worth it. Does a nice job and looks good too.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:04 AM
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draggerlane 1. your power supply sounds to me isn't good enough to run those cards. coolmax has a bronze rating. I'd go with gold or platinum rating. 2. I'd upgrade your motherboard and cpu like you are thinking of. the hero MB does 16x 16x on it pcie slots. I have the Formula with a 7700k and I have no bottleneck what so ever.
Just so you know the Maximus line does 8x/8x. I also have the formula and it is plain as day in the manual that it either runs 1 card at 16 or 2 at 8x/8x. The only Intel chipset that can run 16/16 is the x99
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:30 AM
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One more thing I wanted to mention to the OP as far as the X99 chipset goes, when shopping for one, read the online manual for each and look at the PCIe layout. Some boards just do not support X16 on the #1 and #3 slot. Mine does for sure (Asus X99 Deluxe II) but read the manual of all other X99 boards you're considering before buying. They usually have a table in the manual showing the different SLI configurations the board can run. Lastly, there are 4 X99 I7 CPUs, the 6800k, 6850k, 6900k, and 6950X. Of these, the most affordable and only choice reasonable choice for gaming is the 6850K since it is the first model to support the 40 PCIe lanes you need to run X16 for both video cards. This together with the high bandwidth SLI bridge should help you out greatly. I saw a big improvement after going from my 4790k to my current setup (See Signature) Good luck man. SLI is a bit of an adventure now a days. Don't expect 100% scaling, but for the games that scale well, it really is a sight to behold. Just learn to give up the fight and just run on one card if a game doesn't support SLI or does so poorly. Lastly, get a good power supply, I recommend a 1000 Watts Platinum. My computer routinely draws over 800 Watts when both cards are running during benchmarks, usually in the 760 to 780 range with most games.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:43 AM
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Slim415 As for Velo-X, what kinda Mobo can I get that will do x16/x16? Is that only with the x99 motherboards and 2011-v3 chipset? My IT guy told me that the Asus Maximus IX Hero can do x16/x16 but thats not an x99 mobo. Basically i'm very close to buying a 7700K and Asus Maximus IX Hero motherboard. That should free up my PCIE lane issues right?
No, i7 4790k only has support for 16 pcie 3.0 lanes. X99 has either 28 or 40 PCIe lanes. My point is, with such cards, you need lanes and HB bridge for scaling to be high. The difference is so big. Dont buy 7700k its not gonna cut it. https://youtu.be/rRyFGoDVr28?t=3m This video shows the difference of having pure 2x8 vs 2x16 lanes. Remember lanes are not only about motherboard but CPU needs support for so many lanes too. That's why X99, and a 40 lanes CPU.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 7:03 AM
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X79 is capable of x16/x16, 40 PCIe lanes in total. Thought yes out of date at this point but would still work.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 5:53 PM
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cabbage The 7700k runs fairly hot. Either change up your cooler, or buy it directly from silicon lottery
I'll second this. Definitely not a CPU you wanna cheese the cooler with... and if delidding is an option... it's worth it. 
Yep. With my 7700K my radiator was blowing cold air while me CPU was hitting 80s and 90s. After the de-lid I'm not typically going over 70, and when my CPU is heating up theres hot air coming off the radiator now. Intel screwed up with the 7700K if you ask me. Much happier after the de-lid. When i get some time I'm going to do my wife's 6600K too, though it's not the fireball my 7700K was.
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Re: Severe bottleneck on SLI 1080Ti's- please help
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:32 PM
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draggerlane 1. your power supply sounds to me isn't good enough to run those cards. coolmax has a bronze rating. I'd go with gold or platinum rating. 2. I'd upgrade your motherboard and cpu like you are thinking of. the hero MB does 16x 16x on it pcie slots. I have the Formula with a 7700k and I have no bottleneck what so ever.
Just so you know the Maximus line does 8x/8x. I also have the formula and it is plain as day in the manual that it either runs 1 card at 16 or 2 at 8x/8x. The only Intel chipset that can run 16/16 is the x99
X79 can run 16x16x8 40 lanes all together
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