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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 10:32:32
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Yeah nothing but crap games coming out for pc, what's so good about quantity when quality is so bad? pc gaming is starting to be a waste of time and money.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 10:45:44
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blackforce Yeah nothing but crap games coming out for pc, what's so good about quantity when quality is so bad? pc gaming is starting to be a waste of time and money.
Yeah, they count all that complete garbage that Steam releases on a daily basis. My guess is that if you subtract all that garbage that Steam is releasing, the numbers would be a lot closer.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 15:33:27
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 15:52:47
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I have to wonder however, what the numbers are in terms of sales, 30 games at $1.99 compared to 1 game at $59.99 is about the same in gross sells, (no idea with net sales however)
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 15:58:48
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Yah OK, but you have to wonder when the news is coming straight from the propaganda channel.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/02 22:30:33
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Console games are simply hot garbage these day. PC gaming isn't entirely reliant on them however, which makes PC gaming far more enjoyable if you aren't a mouth breather. Even if you like multiplatform games the tech on PC offers such a significantly better experience the only reason I believe console gaming still exists is because of computer illiterates unable to use a PC without destroying it. Made the switch in the late 90's and never looked backed. Every single console hype game however I've played since on the PC has been a massive let down except Overwatch, but the turd community eventually ruined that as well.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/03 19:25:54
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Different target audiences. It's just as dumb an argument as people comparing Apple vs Android. They're different ecosystems.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/03 22:08:39
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I play all kinds of games across all platforms. My Xbox gets sued the most as I have the most friends that play on that. However some games need to be played on PC. My only downside with most of the great games on PC is that they are also on console. I really wish we could get more AAA titles that are PC exclusive, so the developer could put the time and effort to take full advantage of today's most powerful hardware.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/03 22:29:59
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nemesys06 I play all kinds of games across all platforms. My Xbox gets sued the most as I have the most friends that play on that. However some games need to be played on PC. My only downside with most of the great games on PC is that they are also on console. I really wish we could get more AAA titles that are PC exclusive, so the developer could put the time and effort to take full advantage of today's most powerful hardware.
I agree it would be great to see games that don’t work as well on a console like Starcraft or Diablo come back into mainstream. Would also be nice to see a game that pushes the limit like the original Far Cry did.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/04 00:17:42
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nemesys06 I play all kinds of games across all platforms. My Xbox gets sued the most as I have the most friends that play on that. However some games need to be played on PC. My only downside with most of the great games on PC is that they are also on console. I really wish we could get more AAA titles that are PC exclusive, so the developer could put the time and effort to take full advantage of today's most powerful hardware.
I agree it would be great to see games that don’t work as well on a console like Starcraft or Diablo come back into mainstream. Would also be nice to see a game that pushes the limit like the original Far Cry did.
When I think about a game that really pushed the limits graphically, the one game that always come to mind is Crysis. I loved that the developers created a game with no intention of it ever being on a console. In fact, they created a game that barely even played on current high end hardware. Crysis was meant to push the best systems on the market, not really paying attention to those with older systems or low/mid range builds. They built it for the highest end builds. I would love to see a game like that again. It did help that Crysis was a great game too, but I want to see a developer create a game with only the high end builds in mind. Even to this day, when building a system, me and my friends always ask "but can it play Crysis?" We need another game like that.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/05 10:32:47
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nemesys06 I play all kinds of games across all platforms. My Xbox gets sued the most as I have the most friends that play on that. However some games need to be played on PC. My only downside with most of the great games on PC is that they are also on console. I really wish we could get more AAA titles that are PC exclusive, so the developer could put the time and effort to take full advantage of today's most powerful hardware.
I agree it would be great to see games that don’t work as well on a console like Starcraft or Diablo come back into mainstream. Would also be nice to see a game that pushes the limit like the original Far Cry did.
When I think about a game that really pushed the limits graphically, the one game that always come to mind is Crysis. I loved that the developers created a game with no intention of it ever being on a console. In fact, they created a game that barely even played on current high end hardware. Crysis was meant to push the best systems on the market, not really paying attention to those with older systems or low/mid range builds. They built it for the highest end builds. I would love to see a game like that again. It did help that Crysis was a great game too, but I want to see a developer create a game with only the high end builds in mind. Even to this day, when building a system, me and my friends always ask "but can it play Crysis?" We need another game like that.
Many will disagree with you on topic of Crysis being a great game, but those people also probably prefer linear shooters with no open world and are simply stuck in there ways. Crysis was revolutionary in so many ways for PC Gaming, and especially the shooter genre. I completely agree as-well we need more games like this again. But I feel it will never happen when people keep supporting things like Early Access games, Pre-Ordering, and Microtransactions. Companies know this generation of youth all demand immediate satisfaction and will always pay the price. On topic of OP; I gotta agree with the others, I don't think those charts tell the whole story(do they ever?). Graphs are for the people who spend too much time analyzing data, and not enough time spent hands on with the matter at hand.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/05 21:17:55
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Crysis also had actual AI and allowed players to think. It was so disappointing that Call of Duty game design of scripted participate to win won over actual freedom for players in Crysis. I feel like 2007 was where it all went downhill for the gaming industry when the modern Call of Duty redefined the FPS genre and gaming in general. Now that same type of design is basically the core of nearly ever single big budget game released which is exactly why most games feel the same. Maybe I'm getting too old for this. I'd like to think I haven't changed as much as game design just took a nose dive to appeal to mouth breathers.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/05 21:53:09
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fearpoint Crysis also had actual AI and allowed players to think. It was so disappointing that Call of Duty game design of scripted participate to win won over actual freedom for players in Crysis. I feel like 2007 was where it all went downhill for the gaming industry when the modern Call of Duty redefined the FPS genre and gaming in general. Now that same type of design is basically the core of nearly ever single big budget game released which is exactly why most games feel the same. Maybe I'm getting too old for this. I'd like to think I haven't changed as much as game design just took a nose dive to appeal to mouth breathers.
I have no problem with games that are more scripted and linear like the Call of Duty campaigns. I actually enjoy those campaigns. I just don't care too much for the online part. If done right, scripted/linear games can add to the story. There is not as much to do, but there are moments where the scripting really adds to the experience. But again that is if it is done right.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/05 22:34:58
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I think the other thing we really need would be games that use a keyboard for more then a few buttons. I remember Mech Warrior 2 and Tie Fighter being games you couldn’t port to a console sine they seemed to use every keyboard key.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/06 19:23:51
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fearpoint Crysis also had actual AI and allowed players to think. It was so disappointing that Call of Duty game design of scripted participate to win won over actual freedom for players in Crysis. I feel like 2007 was where it all went downhill for the gaming industry when the modern Call of Duty redefined the FPS genre and gaming in general. Now that same type of design is basically the core of nearly ever single big budget game released which is exactly why most games feel the same. Maybe I'm getting too old for this. I'd like to think I haven't changed as much as game design just took a nose dive to appeal to mouth breathers.
I have no problem with games that are more scripted and linear like the Call of Duty campaigns. I actually enjoy those campaigns. I just don't care too much for the online part. If done right, scripted/linear games can add to the story. There is not as much to do, but there are moments where the scripting really adds to the experience. But again that is if it is done right.
Those scripted "games" aren't even games though. That's the problem. The whole cinematic experience has largely killed most big franchises off and thus game developers don't even create enemy AI any longer. Games are supposed to be interactive except now days interactive really means Simon says press x to proceed and achievement unlocked for turning the game on. It's frankly insulting as a consumer these days because game publishers think you're a moron and can't do anything yourself. Here is some x ray vision because you're such a scrub(every supposed competitive multiplayer game release in the last decade), follow this gigantic line on the road(far cry 5), and don't worry you've got regenerative health(just about every game now). You're a gamer now! Achievement unlocked: Gave us all your money, sucker.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/07 21:52:48
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fearpoint Crysis also had actual AI and allowed players to think. It was so disappointing that Call of Duty game design of scripted participate to win won over actual freedom for players in Crysis. I feel like 2007 was where it all went downhill for the gaming industry when the modern Call of Duty redefined the FPS genre and gaming in general. Now that same type of design is basically the core of nearly ever single big budget game released which is exactly why most games feel the same. Maybe I'm getting too old for this. I'd like to think I haven't changed as much as game design just took a nose dive to appeal to mouth breathers.
I have no problem with games that are more scripted and linear like the Call of Duty campaigns. I actually enjoy those campaigns. I just don't care too much for the online part. If done right, scripted/linear games can add to the story. There is not as much to do, but there are moments where the scripting really adds to the experience. But again that is if it is done right.
Those scripted "games" aren't even games though. That's the problem. The whole cinematic experience has largely killed most big franchises off and thus game developers don't even create enemy AI any longer. Games are supposed to be interactive except now days interactive really means Simon says press x to proceed and achievement unlocked for turning the game on. It's frankly insulting as a consumer these days because game publishers think you're a moron and can't do anything yourself. Here is some x ray vision because you're such a scrub(every supposed competitive multiplayer game release in the last decade), follow this gigantic line on the road(far cry 5), and don't worry you've got regenerative health(just about every game now). You're a gamer now! Achievement unlocked: Gave us all your money, sucker.
I agree with too many games giving regenerating health. As for the scripted games not being games, I have to disagree to an extent. Scripted games have been around for ages. It can be a good thing if done right with the right style of game. Call of Duty, the campaign I feel is a good example. But I do not think the entire game should be scripted. Just certain sequences that are activated are certain points. But not all games should have them. It all depends on the style of game.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/11 03:26:53
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I wouldn't say destroy, but PC is definitely better. Just built my PC and have no plans of going back to console, other than for PS exclusives, because cant deny that The Last of Us, God of War are great games, and Days Gone looks like it will be solid as well. Plus 1st party developers get more use out of Sony's software, so they can make better games out of any developers on console.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/11 09:11:12
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I hate being at the mercy of using steam for gaming, I play the old cod 5 game all the time because we can still make maps and use dedicated servers. The Industry killed real gaming when they stopped offering dedicated servers and the ability to create free maps,they forget the the online gamer was where it all started ,but in the end we got screwed over.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/13 00:28:46
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No argument that PC Gaming is where it's at. Better resolution/IQ, better input controls, wider (and more economical) game selection, control over upgrades. Every console I've purchased for the past 20 years has been used for 3-4 games, then gathers dust. The only game I've played on console in the past 3 years were Horizon and Uncharted 4, and I might give GOW4 a try at some point. That said, I think these stats count the innumerable shovel-ware titles that come out on Steam nowadays -- there's soooo much garbage on Steam. I'm not convinced there are more games worth playing on PC than consoles, PC is just the better experience.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/13 23:15:47
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There are always exclusive for all systems. With the PS4 getting GoW this month, I will be spending some time on that game. However, PC is by far the best way to game when talking graphics, controls, smoothness, and overall performance. But they can also get expensive, especially with the shortage in the GPU market currently. With that said, I do feel that the consoles are severely hindering the PC gaming. Most major games we see on PC are also developed for consoles. Because of this I feel we don't get to see games really take advantage of the PC hardware. If there were more AAA titles made from the ground up strictly for PC, that would be nice. I mean, look at the PS4. Compare the multi-console games vs the exclusives.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/14 07:36:26
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everybody knows pc gaming destroys console gaming; you're preaching to the choir.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/15 23:07:11
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stalinx20 everybody knows pc gaming destroys console gaming; you're preaching to the choir.
Being one to play on all platforms, PC does destroy consoles in performance and graphics quality. However, PC gaming IMO is also being held back by console gaming as most of the PC games are also developed for consoles, thus the developers are not able to really design the games for PC from the ground up. I would really like to see a game that is developed with the sole purpose (graphically) to push the most extreme PC builds to their limits, of course with good gameplay and story of course. But an exclusive that is designed to take full advantage of today's best PC hardware.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/16 11:06:10
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stalinx20 everybody knows pc gaming destroys console gaming; you're preaching to the choir.
Being one to play on all platforms, PC does destroy consoles in performance and graphics quality. However, PC gaming IMO is also being held back by console gaming as most of the PC games are also developed for consoles, thus the developers are not able to really design the games for PC from the ground up. I would really like to see a game that is developed with the sole purpose (graphically) to push the most extreme PC builds to their limits, of course with good gameplay and story of course. But an exclusive that is designed to take full advantage of today's best PC hardware.
Yes, it's been missing for a long time for us PC guys who get the sloppy seconds from the console boys. I am not sure if Piracy is still as big as it was say 10 years ago, but for a while, it seemed game devs had to start making multi-platform games in order to be successful, as the PCMASTERACE was to damn cheap to buy their games legally(I was guilty back in the day ). But I feel with Steam, Orgin, Uplay, GOG, and how the gaming industry has really focused on multiplayer games in recent years, that perhaps piracy is slowing down some. PC gamers are really due for some exclusives that are made to really push the limits of modern hardware, but we can only hope.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/16 11:41:10
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i'm so tired of hearing about what the 1st farcry did which is dumb, faycry did't push nothing you just had some weak ars hardware. hardware is just better than it's ever been.
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Re: PC gaming destroys PlayStation 4 and Xbox
2018/04/24 21:14:40
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PC gaming is where it's at. Sure Xbox and PS are good, but still isn't as good as PC gaming.
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