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which one is good rtx 3090 kingpin hydrocopper or hybrid?
can anyone make a video or do benchmark between both. i cant find any benchmark of them. i need help in justifying 400$ for king pin hydrocopper as it expensive than hybrid dosent come with cooler or aio.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:25 PM
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Hydro Copper - Requires a custom water loop .... your going to spend a minamum $600 or much, much more to make the loop
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Wednesday, July 14, 2021 4:49 PM
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Like cool GTX said, The deciding factor for these cards is the custom loop set up for the hydrocopper. The HC would run cooler and have more possible room for overclocking due to the cooler temps. If budget is no concern, i would go HC.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:47 AM
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HC will overclock better, at the expense of much more expensive custom loop cooling, and the hassle of maintenance.
I would also like to know the real performance difference between them, though.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:06 PM
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if we connect hydrocoper with a raditor and there is no custom loop. will hydrocopper have better performance? the hydrocopper kinpin card is expenive without the raditor or fan.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Sunday, July 18, 2021 0:43 PM
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unknow^^
if we connect hydrocoper with a raditor and there is no custom loop. will hydrocopper have better performance? the hydrocopper kinpin card is expenive without the raditor or fan.
Still need a pump and res.. It can have it's own loop. Other wise I'd say should be close to performance. Unless you have more liquid. It will take longer to overload the hc with custom loop
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Sunday, July 18, 2021 2:59 AM
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pump & "Top" moves the coolant ... not an option Reservoir - usually where you fill the loop ... not impossible to build without one .... but filling is much harder - so is checking liquid level Radiator .. needs to correctly size - based on heat & what fits in your case 45mm to 60 mm seem to be best thickness fittings & hose to connect all the parts into a loop Just purchase some quality premixed clear liquid ... rust / corrosion can be an issue if you "make your own" Ready to try water cooling. Where to start? Library of links-basics to expert Initial cost for a custom GPU water cooling loop. Buy the KP with the AIO already installed if custom loop it too much: work / cost / maintenance/ not your thing  Use anyone's Associate Code & SAVE 3% on your GPU - when purchased on EVGA.com store
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Friday, August 13, 2021 11:18 AM
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Somewhat of a hot take, but TBH the diminishing returns you get from water cooling compared to a beefy aircooler make it an impractical option for performance gains. If you love the aesthetic or the process of building a water cooled system then that is awesome, but if your only goal is great performance there are easier ways to get it than water cooling.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Friday, August 13, 2021 4:46 PM
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R00thead
Somewhat of a hot take, but TBH the diminishing returns you get from water cooling compared to a beefy aircooler make it an impractical option for performance gains. If you love the aesthetic or the process of building a water cooled system then that is awesome, but if your only goal is great performance there are easier ways to get it than water cooling.
What diminishing returns? Why do you think CLs are impractical? CLs done right will give you excellent performance gains while keeping system temperatures in check. Air cooling is not as effective, and to reach the same level as a CL, you could not be around your system without hearing protection. Is air cooling cheaper and easier, yes. Better cooling effectiveness, no.
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Re: hydro copper vs hybrid
Friday, August 13, 2021 5:05 PM
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Somewhat of a hot take, but TBH the diminishing returns you get from water cooling compared to a beefy aircooler make it an impractical option for performance gains. If you love the aesthetic or the process of building a water cooled system then that is awesome, but if your only goal is great performance there are easier ways to get it than water cooling.
What diminishing returns?
Why do you think CLs are impractical?
CLs done right will give you excellent performance gains while keeping system temperatures in check. Air cooling is not as effective, and to reach the same level as a CL, you could not be around your system without hearing protection. Is air cooling cheaper and easier, yes. Better cooling effectiveness, no.
How do you keep an air cooled GPU below 45C, except the dead of winter, with the windows open ? They must live somewhere cold, or have a walk-in freezer available
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