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Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:13 PM (permalink)
I just got the 1080 ti ftw3 yesterday and this card is so unstable, i let the automatic voltage and frequency finder thing run and it barely gave me any boosts at all, as seen in the picture below. However, when i crank the voltage to the 117% mark the card will always crash even with only a 70 MHz offset. The absolute highest i have seen the card go is 2025MHz but crash soon after. Additionally. this card crashes under 2000MHz frequently as seen in this other picture  other times i've seen it crash at 1960 MHz! what the hell, this card was supposed to be a beast overclocker and instead i get terrible clocks and constant crashes.
 
I decided to go with EVGA after i bought a 1080 strix that was DOA causing smoke and the death of my motherboard now when i get my 1080 ti the card is one of the worst overclockers. I am extremely disappointed in this card. From the overbuilt power delivery and cooler i was looking forward to pushing it to the limit but no i would have been better off gettign the cheapest 1080 ti, probably would have gotten higher clocks too.
 
UPDATE/EDIT: The card crashes without any core offset only power at 117%
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:26 PM (permalink)
    It already has a high overclock from the factory. I see no reason to push it even further. So any thing extra is just a bonus. That extra 1-3 fps you MIGHT squeeze out from going further if you could is not worth it. Zero benefits. 

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:37 PM (permalink)
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    It already has a high overclock from the factory. I see no reason to push it even further. So any thing extra is just a bonus. That extra 1-3 fps you MIGHT squeeze out from going further if you could is not worth it. Zero benefits. 


    ... no reason to push it further? The whole reason i bought the card was to overclock the snot out of it and it can even be stable above 2000 MHz, let alone mid to high 1900s. Every review i saw for this card was pushing 2050 MHz or more.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:41 PM (permalink)
    What is your max stable boost clock? Don't pay attention to the offset, that is an offset based off the out of the box boost which may be higher or lower.


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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:48 PM (permalink)
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    What is your max stable boost clock? Don't pay attention to the offset, that is an offset based off the out of the box boost which may be higher or lower.


    Well i just loaded up the witcher 3 and was watching the clocks the only thing i changed was set power to 117%, the core and memory offset was at 0 and the card crashed at 1923.
     
    I'm gonna try again with power at 110% see if it still crashes.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:50 PM (permalink)
    That does not seem right, will have someone reach out to you directly.


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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:50 PM (permalink)
    I got this as well, take a look at my thread here: https://forums.evga.com/G...hmarking-m2667321.aspx

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:56 PM (permalink)
    Can confirm does crash at 110% power.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:58 PM (permalink)
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    I got this as well, take a look at my thread here: https://forums.evga.com/G...hmarking-m2667321.aspx


    Yea i saw your post looks like we've got a similar problem maybe its just the first batch of cards? but i cant even get mine stable at 110% power with no core or memory offset
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:02 PM (permalink)
    OK so basically i can overclock the GPU a bit right now after playing 2 hrs straight without overclock. When I change the clocks it does not change till i hit 50MHz in certain games. After alt-tabbing i get a crash and my whole desktop and gpu drivers crash. Is this common? It doesnt matter if i change the settings regarding to power, temp and voltage. The gpu core still locks at a certain speed (1986).

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:16 PM (permalink)
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    OK so basically i can overclock the GPU a bit right now after playing 2 hrs straight without overclock. When I change the clocks it does not change till i hit 50MHz in certain games. After alt-tabbing i get a crash and my whole desktop and gpu drivers crash. Is this common? It doesnt matter if i change the settings regarding to power, temp and voltage. The gpu core still locks at a certain speed (1986).


    I'm gonna try it without any over clock or changing any of the power setting to see if it crashes and what clocks it lands on
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:34 PM (permalink)
    Very strange. I have the 1080ti SC2 hybrid and I maxed out the temp and voltage sliders and gave my card a 50mhz offset and I'm running a stable 2025mhz OC. Haven't tried to go higher since I don't really own any benchmarks to test for instability. So far all my games run perfectly tho
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:35 PM (permalink)
    OK so i just ran the Witcher 3 for about 5 minutes and it crashed again with 0 core offset 0 memory offset and 0 temp/power target changes and it crashed again at 1949 MHz here's an imgur link to the hardware monitor specs at the time of crash.
     
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:37 PM (permalink)
    Stable 2076 mhz with the FE and hybrid kit.
     
    I'm pretty sure I can crack 2100 when I tweak the voltage curve... whenever I get time.  Maybe this weekend.
     
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 0:19 PM (permalink)
    Try This
     
    Remove XOC Delete Folders and remove NVIDIA Divers
    Reboot PC
    Run DDU in Save Mode
    Reboot PC
    Using the Registry Editor Delete:
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    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\Video
    Ignore the Error
     
    Win10
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    Ignore the Error

     
    Reboot PC

    Put the 1080 Ti in the Slot next to the CPU Socket
    Power on your Computer and Reset your MB Bios.
    Update your MB Bios
    Setup your MB Bios. (Do Not Overclock your CPU or Memory at this Time)
    Install New Graphics Drivers
    Reboot PC
    Install XOC.

    Retest
     

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 0:59 PM (permalink)
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    It already has a high overclock from the factory. I see no reason to push it even further. So any thing extra is just a bonus. That extra 1-3 fps you MIGHT squeeze out from going further if you could is not worth it. Zero benefits. 


    ... no reason to push it further? The whole reason i bought the card was to overclock the snot out of it and it can even be stable above 2000 MHz, let alone mid to high 1900s. Every review i saw for this card was pushing 2050 MHz or more.




     
    Since they are so highly overclocked from the factory like I said. They are pretty much most likely at their max potential or borderline as you are finding out. If you was serious about overclocking as it seems. Should have went with a FE and liquid cooling. IF the card works fine completely stock. Its not the card. Its you that wants more and the card wont give you that if it cant. Again though. If its crashing like this at stock. I think you got a bad card if you tried everything else. 
    post edited by FattysGoneWild - Friday, May 12, 2017 1:01 AM

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 1:32 AM (permalink)
    Another tip: Do not use the "auto voltage curve generator". It does not work, specially not with the default settings. It does not test each point enough. Not even close.
     
    For new overclockers it is much easier to use the +gpu offset method. Forget about the memory offset until you are sure the gpu offset is 100% stable.
     
    Note: Before trying to overclock anything, do what bcavnaugh said and make sure the card is stable with the factory overclock.



     
     
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 1:57 AM (permalink)
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    It already has a high overclock from the factory. I see no reason to push it even further. So any thing extra is just a bonus. That extra 1-3 fps you MIGHT squeeze out from going further if you could is not worth it. Zero benefits. 


    ... no reason to push it further? The whole reason i bought the card was to overclock the snot out of it and it can even be stable above 2000 MHz, let alone mid to high 1900s. Every review i saw for this card was pushing 2050 MHz or more.




     
    Since they are so highly overclocked from the factory like I said. They are pretty much most likely at their max potential or borderline as you are finding out. If you was serious about overclocking as it seems. Should have went with a FE and liquid cooling. IF the card works fine completely stock. Its not the card. Its you that wants more and the card wont give you that if it cant. Again though. If its crashing like this at stock. I think you got a bad card if you tried everything else. 


    Obviously something is wrong with the card if it isn't stable at 100% power target and 0 core and memory offset. I went with this card because the VRMs and cooling is so over built that i wouldn't run into power or thermal limitations like i would with a FE card. A founders card can only go so far with its VRM.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:01 AM (permalink)
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    Try This

    Remove XOC Delete Folders and remove NVIDIA Divers
    Reboot PC
    Run DDU in Save Mode
    Reboot PC
    Using the Registry Editor Delete:
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    Ignore the Error
     
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    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video
    Ignore the Error

     
    Reboot PC

    Put the 1080 Ti in the Slot next to the CPU Socket
    Power on your Computer and Reset your MB Bios.
    Update your MB Bios
    Setup your MB Bios. (Do Not Overclock your CPU or Memory at this Time)
    Install New Graphics Drivers
    Reboot PC
    Install XOC.

    Retest
     


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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:06 AM (permalink)
    I had the same thing with my Founders Edition. Thought it was a terrible overclocker and then found it would still crash even with no overclock, when the GPU would hit 99%. I got the replacement from EVGA yesterday and it works perfectly so far.  It's new silicon, and a lot of cores so early in the production unstable cores will get through the QA.  They just can't check them at enough length to catch small defects that are power/heat sensitive, i think.
     
    I'd RMA that card and not mess with it any more.  FWIW, FTW3 isn't about guaranteed high overclocks.  It's subject to the same silicon lottery as all cards.  FTW3 is about the power, and cooling systems more than anything.  You can still get an average chip.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:20 AM (permalink)
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    I had the same thing with my Founders Edition. Thought it was a terrible overclocker and then found it would still crash even with no overclock, when the GPU would hit 99%. I got the replacement from EVGA yesterday and it works perfectly so far.  It's new silicon, and a lot of cores so early in the production unstable cores will get through the QA.  They just can't check them at enough length to catch small defects that are power/heat sensitive, i think.
     
    I'd RMA that card and not mess with it any more.  FWIW, FTW3 isn't about guaranteed high overclocks.  It's subject to the same silicon lottery as all cards.  FTW3 is about the power, and cooling systems more than anything.  You can still get an average chip.


    That's exactly what i'm thinking it's just a bad chip, ill probably start teh RMA process shortly. It should at least be stable out of the box.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:21 AM (permalink)
    Dayum, luckily EVGA support is fantastic, will have you taken care of for sure
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:30 AM (permalink)
    You mentioned that you had another card fry and take out your motherboard.. Did you use the same power supply that was in you old system in you new build or replace it as well? If not I would start there.

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 2:49 AM (permalink)
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 3:01 AM (permalink)
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 3:10 AM (permalink)
    When the FTW just won't do it..... we need the Classified (and KPE) to show the FTW how it's done :D

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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 3:28 AM (permalink)
    Thanks for all the help after testing at stock and completely uninstalling and reinstalling all graphics drivers i have concluded the card is just defective due to the fact that even after fresh drivers the card still crashes at default settings so i will be doing an RMA. I've waited about a year and a half for this card i can suffer with my 780 a bit longer.
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    Re: is it just me or is the 1080ti ftw3 awful at overclocking Friday, May 12, 2017 7:13 AM (permalink)
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    That does not seem right, will have someone reach out to you directly.




    Mine is even worse, can't even reach >104% power limit without any overclock.
    Is FTW3 really this bad?
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