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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:16:33
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:19:15
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
I don't see windows making that big of a difference.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:22:32
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
I don't see windows making that big of a difference.
I do but that's ok. Then Different UI Versions 2.3.3732 64 -v- UI Version 2.3.3732 s64 Maybe
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:27:52
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
I don't see windows making that big of a difference.
I do but that's ok.
Then Different UI Versions 2.3.3732 64 -v- UI Version 2.3.3732 s64 Maybe
All that means is he ran it from steam.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:32:01
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
I don't see windows making that big of a difference.
I do but that's ok.
Then Different UI Versions 2.3.3732 64 -v- UI Version 2.3.3732 s64 Maybe
All that means is he ran it from steam.
Steam Overhead Maybe.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 13:38:06
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Different Versions of Windows 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.14393) -v- 64-bit Windows 10 (10.0.15063) Maybe
I don't see windows making that big of a difference.
I do but that's ok.
Then Different UI Versions 2.3.3732 64 -v- UI Version 2.3.3732 s64 Maybe
All that means is he ran it from steam.
Steam Overhead Maybe.
Possibly, but I highly doubt it.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 14:01:16
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x8 and x8 -v- yours at x16 and x16 Physics Test you did fall shot on Fire Strike. Time Spy I won't count because they have two different versions of DX 12 To bad you have no Api Overhead Test to compare.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 14:51:25
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 14:58:47
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
Clearly something is holding the cards back on the 1800x. I'm thinking it's the cpu itself.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 15:03:44
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
Clearly something is holding the cards back on the 1800x. I'm thinking it's the cpu itself.
Funny X16 for your CPU -v- X8 on the 1800x CPU why is that not a good reason as posted above.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 15:05:06
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
Clearly something is holding the cards back on the 1800x. I'm thinking it's the cpu itself.
Funny X16 for your CPU -v- X8 on the 1800x CPU why is that not a good reason as posted above.
We all know x8 vs x16 doesn't make that big of a difference.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 15:05:34
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You have an HB SLI Bridge and the Other Computer has only a Standard SLI Bridge.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 15:24:17
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You have an HB SLI Bridge and the Other Computer has only a Standard SLI Bridge.
We don't know if that rig has a HB bridge or not. You have two 1080 ti's. Let's see what you can score with your 1800x. 
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/06/25 15:45:42
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You have an HB SLI Bridge and the Other Computer has only a Standard SLI Bridge.
We don't know if that rig has a HB bridge or not. You have two 1080 ti's. Let's see what you can score with your 1800x.
I only have One 1080 Ti GPU in my New Horizons RYZEN 7 1800X Rig. I have already shown that my RYZEN 7 1800X cannot match or keep up with my Core i7-5960X CPU Rig I found it pointless putting in two NVIDIA GPUs with the RYZEN 7 1800X CPU IMHO, maybe two AMD GPUs. The RYZEN 7 1800X is about as good as an Intel i7-4960X Processor at best as an All Around Processor.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/03 12:11:27
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
Clearly something is holding the cards back on the 1800x. I'm thinking it's the cpu itself.
I think you're right; the only other thing I can think of is something in the bios settings but not even then if I'm being realistic. It's kind of bizarre.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/03 12:32:10
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Maybe it is time for you to Share Your Thoughts and Points!
Clearly something is holding the cards back on the 1800x. I'm thinking it's the cpu itself.
I think you're right; the only other thing I can think of is something in the bios settings but not even then if I'm being realistic. It's kind of bizarre.
The current benchmarks from Futuremark may not be optimized for RYZEN. However let's also look at your Firestrike scores which shows the RYZEN performing very well versus a processor costing twice as much. Let's also make sure sure we understand that Intel has had years of advanced single and multi-core advancements and AMD is still trying to catch up. However the bottom line is exactly how you use each processor. Most of the games released in the past two years are optimized for Intel so games will probably give Intel an advantage although game manufacturers are beginning to use AMD's SDK and hardware kits to better optimize RYZEN. Let's also not forget that AMD Threadripper is coming. AMD also took back 10 percent more marketshare from Intel in one fiscal quarter (Q2 2017) and that is impressive. Bottom line: Pick the processor that makes you happy and within the budget you can afford.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/03 13:43:01
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rjohnson11AMD also took back 10 percent more marketshare from Intel in one fiscal quarter (Q2 2017) and that is impressive. Last I heard, that information was taken from a Passmark survey (use their benchmarking software). Doesn't take into account those that chose not to or can't participate (as the survey is only for those with Windows?). At least, that's what I understood from a YouTube video (I think it was WAN Show). Which is easily confirmed by the fact that googling it just now says exactly that... 10% based on Passmark survey. My point is... on the one hand, it is indeed impressive. But also not real market share information, but more selective. ~~~~~ edit: as for OP's comparison... meeh? I drive with seemingly more common sense than most folks around me when I'm at work (delivery) without cutting into oncoming lanes or crawling a forcing people to bunch up behind me... but at the end of the day, it doesn't really do me favors. In short... I bought an Intel chip to replace an Intel chip. Newer chip is faster in plenty of respects and slow in other, but knowing that doesn't do much for me.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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Well, since I don't want to spend 1k on a cpu I went ahead and got the 1700X Ryzen. I haven't done the build yet but if it doesn't score as fast on some applications as others I don't really care. I don't just game and when I do it's on a 2k monitor. We'll see how it goes but I won't be disparaging the Ryzen; I've got a pretty good idea of how it should perform and I'm good with that. At any rate, it will do much better for what I need than the 4790k that I currently have.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/03 14:53:12
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However let's also look at your Firestrike scores which shows the RYZEN performing very well versus a processor costing twice as much.
9,500 points on the graphics score is a big difference. You're right nobody today should buy a 5960x for $1k. The 5960x was a great deal for $1k back in Q3 of 2014.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/03 15:49:21
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i pick up my 5960x for £500 BNIB, had it for 2 years and no issues at 4.7, it falls flat on it's face @4.8 @1.4v I certainly would never consider buying a ryzen no matter how much cheaper it is, it's cheap for a reason  off topic but seeing the knowledgeable folks are here, I picked up another X99E-WS motherboard, what would be the best xeon to plonk in to it, bang for buck? My Choices are Intel Xeon E5 2630L V3 ES Intel Xeon E5-1603 V3Intel Xeon E5 2609 V3 ES Intel Xeon Processor E5-2630 v4 it will be used primarily in a testbench
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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This just reaffirms my opinion on the Ryzen, good not great, but a BIG step in the right direction. I am glad to see their CPUs improving again.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/04 14:47:50
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This just reaffirms my opinion on the Ryzen, good not great, but a BIG step in the right direction. I am glad to see their CPUs improving again.
Honestly, if I weren't so biased against AMD, I'd be all over the Ryzen 7 1800x. Having had an Athlon XP fry itself after having me replace a motherboard (not cheap). Along with the terrible experience using older Radeon "CCC" drivers has left me bitter. nVidia has given me grief in the past also, but nowhere to the extent of AMD. Overall, Intel has given me the least amount of grief of these three brands. I generally get what I expect from Intel.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/05 20:02:09
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https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/cpu/AMD+Ryzen+7+1800X/review
1800x test from July and not April.
Puts the 1800x at 18570+
Also look at that price BY performance difference.
eBay wants $600+ for the 5960x chip used and $1000-1200 new...
OR you can get a modern CPU for sub $500....
And the 1800x is not bottlenecking anything, it's a beast just like Intel's high end stuff.
This thread reminds me of people who drive very big trucks.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
2017/07/11 11:44:24
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https://www.futuremark.co...D+Ryzen+7+1800X/review
1800x test from July and not April.
Puts the 1800x at 18570+
Also look at that price BY performance difference.
eBay wants $600+ for the 5960x chip used and $1000-1200 new...
OR you can get a modern CPU for sub $500....
And the 1800x is not bottlenecking anything, it's a beast just like Intel's high end stuff.
This thread reminds me of people who drive very big trucks.
AMD dropped prices and I've seen sales today for the 1700X at $299 and the Ryzen 1800x is $399 at Microcenter. I'll take the new cpu, thanks lol I have yet to put my rig together as the last part should be here on Thursday but I'm greatly looking forward to testing out the system when it's completed.
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Re: Fastest 1800x 3dmark scores vs my 5960x
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