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tamalero
Seasonic just sent me the replacement PSU. Hopefully will be here by next week.
I'm impressed at how efficient their support crew are!.

Yeah, they're sending me a SSR-750TR (TX-750) that should be here by Friday. 

I got the RMA TX-750. No longer shutting down in Apex or EFT with power slider at 100% on a 3090 FTW3. AC input power at 600W in-game.

NowWhat123
I got the RMA TX-750. No longer shutting down in Apex or EFT with power slider at 100% on a 3090 FTW3. AC input power at 600W in-game.

Got a similar one. Pushed Firestrike for a pair of hours in loop. No crash.
Max power spike recorded by my UPS was 720Watts.
 
Anyway, I have my 3080 undervolted now.
 

Maybe the PSU is the issue

Just an update.
I have again started to get random shutdowns. But not full shutdowns. LEDS stay on.
I think the replacement 750W was also botched or had bad quality.
I'm going to send it back for another one.
 
Kinda annoyed that Seasonic claims they "ran out" of higher power wattages when I offered to pay the difference to get a higher rated as replacement.
 

Itssladenlol
 
750w isnt even close to being enough.
Power Spikes that dont Show up in messurements are way higher.
Get a 1000w PSU, that will fix your Problem 100%

Was more than 2 months with no issue.
And, these Seasonic are supposed to handle over 750W transitions. Hence why they were replacing the old ones that could not handle the spikes with the newer version.
 

Just spent 2 weeks dealing with this. 
 
Before the 3080FTW3, rock solid system, rock solid PSU. 850watt toughpower grand 850watt, driving a 1080ti FTW3 with an i7 7800x, no overclocking, ever. 
After 3080FTW3, PC would power off/power on during games, anywhere from 5 mins to 2 hours into gameplay. Rebuilt system during troubleshooting.
Reducing GPU power to 90%, 80%, 70% would slow down the reboots, but they would still occur even at 70% power. Voltage monitoring of system showed nothing that would cause this, at least at a logging level. (variance on main 12v rail was less than .1v, infrequently)
 
EVGA offered an RMA, but I had already put a new 1000watt PSU in shipping. (EVGA supernova G5, chinese import). The new PSU stopped the rebooting entirely, and the system has now run for 3+ days without a single problem. 
The toughpower grand 850watt is still a good PSU, tests good, and runs every other configuration just fine. 

Whose issue was this? Is this a defective GPU that can be stabilized with a large extra current overhead? Or was this a defective PSU that could only be determined under THIS ONE USE CASE? It's anyone's guess.
 

tamalero

milkman76
Just spent 2 weeks dealing with this. 
 
Before the 3080FTW3, rock solid system, rock solid PSU. 850watt toughpower grand 850watt, driving a 1080ti FTW3 with an i7 7800x, no overclocking, ever. 
After 3080FTW3, PC would power off/power on during games, anywhere from 5 mins to 2 hours into gameplay. Rebuilt system during troubleshooting.
Reducing GPU power to 90%, 80%, 70% would slow down the reboots, but they would still occur even at 70% power. Voltage monitoring of system showed nothing that would cause this, at least at a logging level. (variance on main 12v rail was less than .1v, infrequently)
 
EVGA offered an RMA, but I had already put a new 1000watt PSU in shipping. (EVGA supernova G5, chinese import). The new PSU stopped the rebooting entirely, and the system has now run for 3+ days without a single problem. 
The toughpower grand 850watt is still a good PSU, tests good, and runs every other configuration just fine. 

Whose issue was this? Is this a defective GPU that can be stabilized with a large extra current overhead? Or was this a defective PSU that could only be determined under THIS ONE USE CASE? It's anyone's guess.
 

You could say the issue is that modern GPUs are being built and configured to be more and more aggressive in their boosts to drive higher performance.
They pull way too much power now in an instant, triggering the protection of older PSUs that did not expect such an instant demand.
 
Anyway, in my case...  been trying to a decent find 1000W PSUs in my country. And the only ones available are crappy thermaltake and older also affected coolermaster units x_x
 

But what is that saying, still? Whose fault is it? I've been building for 30 years, and it is exceedingly rare I run into any tech issue I cannot track back to a vendor.

Unless I have a bench with power monitoring systems that I currently do not have access to, I cannot prove when the "aggressive power draw" occurred on the GPU, or when the PSU was unable to handle the transition to a higher draw. Existing runtime monitoring software and BIOS level monitoring do not show anything that would cause a reboot or failure, so the issue isnt something a customer... can easily prove. This stinks, and one of the vendors should step up and try a little honesty for 2 seconds, if that's possible under an economic system that makes everyone lie to cover their butts. 
 
I am only half serious when I say Im not sure whose issue it is. If I were a betting man, I wouldnt bet that nearly EVERY PSU maker on the planet has the same "faulty" PSUs, that can only be shown to be faulty under this one use case. (EVGA 3080 and 3090s). I dont see any FEs with this issue. 
 
EDIT: Oh, and good luck with your PSU!!! Thermaltake tried to fight with me, at first, and thought they were talking to someone who would give up with "if the PSU turns on, it isnt bad." They tried to refuse my 10 year warranty on that PSU until I threatened them. Now, I have an open RMA with thermaltake for that grand 850watt. 
 

I had to rma my older focus model, seasonic sent mr an updated one and it works fine (850 gx)

milkman76
 
 
 
The data shows that EVGA cards are, indeed, experiencing most of the issues, and I am not talking about overclocking, mining, or resizable BAR failures in the hands of unskilled system builders.
Im talking DOA, Im talking screen blinking, Im talking GPUs causing PSUs to engage over-current protection in response to inappropriately high, sudden power spikes. 
 
I've been building systems for 30 years, and I train and mentor younger people. I always recommend against overclocking. If you overclock and kill your stuff, shouldn't have been overclocking. If you dont care about money, energy consumption, or the lifespan of your parts, blaze up your OC and see how hard you can go. Get mad frames in everything. Be my guest. lol. 

Show me where thousands of Nvidia FE, MSI, Gigabyte, etc cards are coming back en masse. I have 3 PSUs in my house, and all test 100% OK and run all my other systems -- including a couple 1080ti systems -- without any trouble. But 2 of the 3 power supplies which test fine also REBOOT any PC with this 3080 FTW3 in it. When your GPU makes many PSUs reboot, and your GPU is one of the only ones doing this, should we look at those PSU makers, including EVGA, or....? Is it maybe more logical to pursue the voltage regulation issue on the GPU?
 
I get it -- EVGA is your brand. They've been a primary choice for me, as well, for decades. But that voltage regulator issue... is a known issue, and cannot be blamed on others nor the waters muddied on this. EVGA should own it, but they wont, like most companies wont own something like this if they can get away with it. Capitalism makes people dishonest. 

You're grasping straws.
 
"The data shows that EVGA cards are"
Which data are you talking about? Considering how EVGA also seems to have the higher availability of 3000 series cards with constant drops. It also would not be surprised if they had the higher rates even if the failure percentages are the same of other brands.
 
"and I am not talking about overclocking, mining, or resizable BAR failures in the hands of unskilled system builders.Im talking DOA, Im talking screen blinking"
You're putting a lot of stuff that is not related to the task at hand. All these issues are also present with other vendors. Noone is talking about BAR, MININg, etc.. either.. Its you. As for overclocked. I think you forgot a little thing. EVGA and most "premium" brands are OVERCLOCKED BY DEFAULT. FROM FACTORY.
 
"I've been building systems for 30 years"
Good for you, no idea why you have to become so defensive to come with your credentials. I have a similar experience but I'm not just brandishing like it gives you above credibility.
"Show me where thousands of Nvidia FE, MSI, Gigabyte, etc cards are coming back en masse"
NVIDIA reddit would like to have a word with you. Also NVIDIA forums as well.  Want to talk about widespread issues? How about the super high temps on the memory of FE versions?
"I have 3 PSUs in my house, and all test 100% OK and run all my other systems -- including a couple 1080ti systems -- without any trouble. But 2 of the 3 power supplies which test fine also REBOOT any PC with this 3080 FTW3 in it"
My older PSUs rebooted with my 1070 GTX and thats why I moved to a Seasonic. 3 PSUs in your personal experience is hardly a sizeable target.
Funny that Power Supply manufacturers have been replacing OLDER than 4 year power supplies for 1-2 year old suppliers based on this issue. And I do not remember the 3000 series being more than 1 year from release. This isn't a magical conspiracy.
 
"Is it maybe more logical to pursue the voltage regulation issue on the GPU?"
Or more related to Nvidia own GPUS? as I said before, on first release, there was a massive widespread issue of black screens, reboots, etc.. and was fixed by a DRIVER. Which showed that Nvidia by default set the boost behaviour way too aggressive.
 
"I get it -- EVGA is your brand"
EVGA isnt "MY" Brand. I have no idea what the hell is your problem or if you're trying to troll.
 
"Capitalism makes people dishonest. "
Jesucrist...This was enough to rest my case.
 
 
 
 

tamalero

milkman76
 
 
 
The data shows that EVGA cards are, indeed, experiencing most of the issues, and I am not talking about overclocking, mining, or resizable BAR failures in the hands of unskilled system builders.
Im talking DOA, Im talking screen blinking, Im talking GPUs causing PSUs to engage over-current protection in response to inappropriately high, sudden power spikes. 
 
I've been building systems for 30 years, and I train and mentor younger people. I always recommend against overclocking. If you overclock and kill your stuff, shouldn't have been overclocking. If you dont care about money, energy consumption, or the lifespan of your parts, blaze up your OC and see how hard you can go. Get mad frames in everything. Be my guest. lol. 

Show me where thousands of Nvidia FE, MSI, Gigabyte, etc cards are coming back en masse. I have 3 PSUs in my house, and all test 100% OK and run all my other systems -- including a couple 1080ti systems -- without any trouble. But 2 of the 3 power supplies which test fine also REBOOT any PC with this 3080 FTW3 in it. When your GPU makes many PSUs reboot, and your GPU is one of the only ones doing this, should we look at those PSU makers, including EVGA, or....? Is it maybe more logical to pursue the voltage regulation issue on the GPU?
 
I get it -- EVGA is your brand. They've been a primary choice for me, as well, for decades. But that voltage regulator issue... is a known issue, and cannot be blamed on others nor the waters muddied on this. EVGA should own it, but they wont, like most companies wont own something like this if they can get away with it. Capitalism makes people dishonest. 

You're grasping straws.
 
"The data shows that EVGA cards are"
Which data are you talking about? Considering how EVGA also seems to have the higher availability of 3000 series cards with constant drops. It also would not be surprised if they had the higher rates even if the failure percentages are the same of other brands.
 
"and I am not talking about overclocking, mining, or resizable BAR failures in the hands of unskilled system builders.Im talking DOA, Im talking screen blinking"
You're putting a lot of stuff that is not related to the task at hand. All these issues are also present with other vendors. Noone is talking about BAR, MININg, etc.. either.. Its you. As for overclocked. I think you forgot a little thing. EVGA and most "premium" brands are OVERCLOCKED BY DEFAULT. FROM FACTORY.
 
"I've been building systems for 30 years"
Good for you, no idea why you have to become so defensive to come with your credentials. I have a similar experience but I'm not just brandishing like it gives you above credibility.
"Show me where thousands of Nvidia FE, MSI, Gigabyte, etc cards are coming back en masse"
NVIDIA reddit would like to have a word with you. Also NVIDIA forums as well.  Want to talk about widespread issues? How about the super high temps on the memory of FE versions?
"I have 3 PSUs in my house, and all test 100% OK and run all my other systems -- including a couple 1080ti systems -- without any trouble. But 2 of the 3 power supplies which test fine also REBOOT any PC with this 3080 FTW3 in it"
My older PSUs rebooted with my 1070 GTX and thats why I moved to a Seasonic. 3 PSUs in your personal experience is hardly a sizeable target.
Funny that Power Supply manufacturers have been replacing OLDER than 4 year power supplies for 1-2 year old suppliers based on this issue. And I do not remember the 3000 series being more than 1 year from release. This isn't a magical conspiracy.
 
"Is it maybe more logical to pursue the voltage regulation issue on the GPU?"
Or more related to Nvidia own GPUS? as I said before, on first release, there was a massive widespread issue of black screens, reboots, etc.. and was fixed by a DRIVER. Which showed that Nvidia by default set the boost behaviour way too aggressive.
 
"I get it -- EVGA is your brand"
EVGA isnt "MY" Brand. I have no idea what the hell is your problem or if you're trying to troll.
 
"Capitalism makes people dishonest. "
Jesucrist...This was enough to rest my case.
 
 
 
 

Yeah, I dont think we are communicating well. I'm putting a lot of stuff not related to the task at hand? Lol that's what *I* said, in regards to situations that do not matter to me or to the issues seen with these cards, but then you said that to me? lol ok.
 
EVGA is taking it in the shorts, in regards to the power regulation components that appear to be the culprit here. EVGA has higher availability with "constant drops"? Yes. Yes they do, which is why more people are complaining about it?
 
You seem to be trying extra hard to defend this brand, and are ignoring the obvious. Why? Im not interested in conversations with people who argue in bad faith, or whatever it is that motivates you here. Take care, and good luck with your issue.  

probbly PSU issue, if not psu then rma card

So question. I have this PSU:

 
Bought it in Summer 2019 (thanks Newegg for sending me year plus old stock)  Its before they sold the GX line-up/rebrand. (which I guess is better designed and not defective?)
 
These is my main specs: Asrock X570 Taichi, Ryzen 5800X, EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra (and this PSU) along with B-Die 3200mhz 16gb Gskill RAM
 
When Idle (or randomly) my pc will just shut off... sometimes requiring multiple attempts to turn it on (pressing the power button about 5-6 times before it will fully post vs shutting down again in a second after powering on) I have got some BSOD codes from like 2 times it happened but the rest dont get me and BSOD codes and it has happened 6+ times in the last week. (and more than once where I have to keep pressing the power button to get it to post) 
 
I was running a 3080 FE before this and the only time I experienced my PC shutting off (I could be wrong and it shut down more than I thought) was after I upgraded to a 5800x with my 32GB 3600mhz kit of RAM at the time. (I ended up letting my dad borrow that ram for like 6+ months and it never shut his pc down, mine wouldnt last 10 minutes in some memory tests even at non-xmp speeds so I swapped back to my 3200mhz kit and thought life was good)
 
Now fast forward to now and I sold my FE card and swapped over to a 3080 FTW3 Ultra and my pc is shutting down again.... is my PSU at fault? Do I RMA this thing and ask them to send me a GX unit?

tamalero
 
In the other hand I just installed the replacement 750W from Seasonic.
What is interesting is, despite being the same model, brand, type and code. The sticker is different and has different position for a few things. Like the 80 Titanium plus. I wonder if I just got the latest version of the same model.
 
Anyway, If I'm getting the same issue. I'm going to sell the PSU and just get a bigger more powerful one.
 

Any updates? I'm about to RMA my TX-850 Seasonic. Curious if your issue seemed to be fixed.