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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/27 15:11:11 (permalink)
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What is the probability for customers (and reviewers) of getting several defective cards?
 
Moreover, 6 months after the launch, there is not a single 2080ti available in stock at EVGA EU store today:
https://eu.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+20+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+2080+Ti
 
Who can still believe this is a normal situation?



The probability is high - which has been addressed - most of the time when you RMA a product, most companies ( I dont know EVGA's policy ) merely sends you a refurbished unit.  One that has been returned but didn't display any issues during in house testing.

You're more likely to run into a malfunctioned unit, during the RMA process than you are with an off the shelf product.
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/27 18:35:28 (permalink)
Probably rather than a page of arguing about whether cards have failed (they have!) or how widespread the problem is (or isn't), why not focus on the fact that some cards have failed and focus on discussing what people believe was the root cause of many failures? It seems like the first post of this thread was all about the root cause of failures, and the rest of the following bashing posts have gone way off topic about inflating or deflating the magnitude of the the problem instead of focusing on the root cause of the problem.

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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/27 19:42:30 (permalink)
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Probably rather than a page of arguing about whether cards have failed (they have!) or how widespread the problem is (or isn't), why not focus on the fact that some cards have failed and focus on discussing what people believe was the root cause of many failures? It seems like the first post of this thread was all about the root cause of failures, and the rest of the following bashing posts have gone way off topic about inflating or deflating the magnitude of the the problem instead of focusing on the root cause of the problem.



The root cause of the failure was established by Nvidea months ago and there have been subsequent releases regarding it. Speculation does little for resolving a known issue..  No one's going to engineer their way out of an RMA.
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/27 19:48:08 (permalink)
So, I guess that is the end of the discussion.

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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/27 20:21:30 (permalink)
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So, I guess that is the end of the discussion.


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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 00:42:14 (permalink)
Too many assumption and not enough proof.

Again, you'll hear more complaints than good stories of those that don't have any issues.  Forums are usually the place where people vent and or troubleshoot.  There are rarely any places where every perfect working GPU tell's its own story. lol 

Some companies should implement or at least in the forums, a 5 star rating system on these products but than again, only people looking for help will show up and not many will give a rating unless EVGA sends out a email asking to rate their experience a month after their purchased GPU but they have the sale numbers and know how many GPUs they've sold and how many have been RMA'd.  It would be nice to see this on our end to put these theories to rest.

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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 04:28:19 (permalink)
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Too many assumption and not enough proof.

Too many denials to bury complaints

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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 06:02:13 (permalink)
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Too many assumption and not enough proof.

Again, you'll hear more complaints than good stories of those that don't have any issues.  Forums are usually the place where people vent and or troubleshoot.  There are rarely any places where every perfect working GPU tell's its own story. lol 

Some companies should implement or at least in the forums, a 5 star rating system on these products but than again, only people looking for help will show up and not many will give a rating unless EVGA sends out a email asking to rate their experience a month after their purchased GPU but they have the sale numbers and know how many GPUs they've sold and how many have been RMA'd.  It would be nice to see this on our end to put these theories to rest.


True and common sense. People will only take action if thiers an issue. The majority will not be motivated to lift a finger if its perfect. Really only if it's a great overclocker or a substantial upgrade from a really old card.

Though spending a $1000-$1600 on just a card should make people wana brag about the purchase .. or cry out loud! Lol

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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 06:18:06 (permalink)
The 20 series launch just solidifies why you never buy the first generation of anything "new" that a company is attempting. As with all manufacturers now, some testing is done in house but mostly the general public gets to see if it really works. There is something majorly wrong with this series of cards whether people want to admit it or not. Then, add the egregious pricing along with it and "wham" you have all the problems that most are reading on every forum they visit. I an not trying to come down on anyone that owns one of these, but I truly think that your days are numbered with your good running card.
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 06:19:28 (permalink)
As of today, I have 4 friends with burnt up, RMA'd 20 series cards and 2 that are still working.
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/28 12:45:13 (permalink)
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Too many assumption and not enough proof.

Again, you'll hear more complaints than good stories of those that don't have any issues.  Forums are usually the place where people vent and or troubleshoot.  There are rarely any places where every perfect working GPU tell's its own story. lol 

Some companies should implement or at least in the forums, a 5 star rating system on these products but than again, only people looking for help will show up and not many will give a rating unless EVGA sends out a email asking to rate their experience a month after their purchased GPU but they have the sale numbers and know how many GPUs they've sold and how many have been RMA'd.  It would be nice to see this on our end to put these theories to rest.


True and common sense. People will only take action if thiers an issue. The majority will not be motivated to lift a finger if its perfect. Really only if it's a great overclocker or a substantial upgrade from a really old card.

Though spending a $1000-$1600 on just a card should make people wana brag about the purchase .. or cry out loud! Lol



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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/29 10:43:13 (permalink)
Do you honestly believe Nvidia... a company with 9.714 billion in revenue, and over 12 billion in assets,   would lie to the consumer, their investors, and the controlling bodies to avoid the minor scandal of 2 to 3 million in replacement and RMA costs due to an initial bad manufacturing run?
 
If anyone thinks a company of any size would not lie about this or similar item is dead wrong. Happens in the auto industry all the time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2019/03/29 11:49:27 (permalink)
Been an Evga GPU Fanboy for many years...its all Ive purchased....great Cards..
 
....with that being said I have owned every series of Cards since the very old 6600 GT / Ultra thru to 1080Ti ....skipped the old 9800GT and 980TI Cards.....I have always had SLi dual or even Tri....been Watercooling (Custom) since the 780Ti's .....
 
Presently my 1080Ti Sli Black Edition continue to scream along now with a 9900K with no issues...(EK Blocks all the way)...
....other than the GTX 480's which were hot (had 2 SLi), I have never seen so many RMA's and RMA's of RMA's...crazy.....been on this Forum for a long time and the number of RMA's and complaints brings me back to the X79 Evga Classy Boards (why I went with a Asus RIV-E at that time).....
....I will likely always stick to Evga GPU's.....love em..BUT there is no way I'll drop north of $4K CAD for a couple of Cards with this many RMA's.....and no one here can deny that there has been far more appearing here...Tech Tips....Hardcore OC'ers....etc etc....there certainly appears to be or was / is? an issue.....
...From all I have read its not an Evga issue as it seems to be Asus....MSI...Zotac etc....thought maybe a heat issue as number of my "Net Buddies" with Custom Loops (like me) for the most part seem ok....
.....but im not fully convinced....if it was an $800 Card no biggie...but $1699 CAD + Tax....and a gamble....??
Thats great that there a many with great working cards...but cannot help but "feel" for those that purchsed new ...again upwards of $2K CAD.....to have it borked early on...only ot have it replaced with a "re-furb".....Id be so hot....not right....
...Anyhow...cannot help but notice the huge stock availability now of the Ti's here at some of the more reputable PC Parts stores here in Canada (Memory Express...Egg.ca).....they ain't moving from the shelves........
nv will have some solution Im sure....next gen? ...improved new tech (RTX).......no problem waiting here...unless of course my faithful "old" 1080Ti's Black Editions bite the bullet......then I'll be making a purchase .....
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2021/01/13 20:21:02 (permalink)
I honestly thought the manufacturers had addressed the issues with these cards. I'm pretty guttered i have to rma my new card on its 3rd day. I hardly used it. 
The fan switching off when the card is so cool is fine, but i found my card baking. The fans never kicked in. Restart and the fans go to full and no signal.
 
post edited by purcain1 - 2021/01/14 12:00:01
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Re: Explanation about dying RTX 2021/01/14 05:44:19 (permalink)
This thread is almost 2 years old.... 
 


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