CalvinOgawaWestminster

deni3d

CalvinOgawaWestminster

So have been asking if there is a way to see what is going on? do we have an accurate list?

I would just define the list as a guide on where you stand. Statistically, something is only as accurate as the sample size that it relates to, which is not as populous as the amount of people in the queue itself.

Here is my problem... Organization. Is there someone who can speak/write in an authoritative manner how to find if I am on EVGA list? My profile/notify list says "10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:16:44 AM PT NO" but when i look around, i found a complete different list on google.doc... and i am not on that list.  So Enewt... Can you be that person to step and give me the correct detail?
Calvin 

the google doc was made by people outside of EVGA where people just came together and said "hey this is my notify time". We have no idea what the official queue looks like as EVGA has not released that information.

CalvinOgawaWestminster

deni3d

CalvinOgawaWestminster

So have been asking if there is a way to see what is going on? do we have an accurate list?

I would just define the list as a guide on where you stand. Statistically, something is only as accurate as the sample size that it relates to, which is not as populous as the amount of people in the queue itself.

Here is my problem... Organization. Is there someone who can speak/write in an authoritative manner how to find if I am on EVGA list? My profile/notify list says "10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:16:44 AM PT NO" but when i look around, i found a complete different list on google.doc... and i am not on that list.  So Enewt... Can you be that person to step and give me the correct detail?
Calvin 

You have to manually type in your info on the google doc.  Each one was manually typed in by the forum member themselves.  Not everyone in this post is in the google doc.  Its used to give us all a rough estimate of where we are on the list.  
 
We are currently at 12/16/20 9:03:37 for 3898... there is another 13 min before its your "turn" to be notified by EVGA to buy the card.  
 
The link below is for the North American Queue
 
https://docs.google.com/d...AbcxMorvRvEPaPh48/edit

CalvinOgawaWestminster

deni3d

CalvinOgawaWestminster

So have been asking if there is a way to see what is going on? do we have an accurate list?

I would just define the list as a guide on where you stand. Statistically, something is only as accurate as the sample size that it relates to, which is not as populous as the amount of people in the queue itself.

Here is my problem... Organization. Is there someone who can speak/write in an authoritative manner how to find if I am on EVGA list? My profile/notify list says "10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:16:44 AM PT NO" but when i look around, i found a complete different list on google.doc... and i am not on that list.  So Enewt... Can you be that person to step and give me the correct detail?
Calvin 

I'll try.  Your notify list is the official indication that you are in the queue for the 3898.  The spreadsheet is self-reported and, by definition, an incomplete data set.  You and thousands others have never submitted their official timestamp (the info from your notify list on the EVGA website) to the spreadsheet and are therefore not on the spreadsheet (but are on the official queue).  I am getting a bit blue in the face about this point, but I strongly believe that reliance on the spreadsheets causes more confusion and frustration than they are worth.  YMMV.
 
TLDR; if you have an entry in your auto-notify list on the EVGA website, you are officially in the queue.  Ignore the spreadsheets (or don't, but you won't find your name in them until you submit your data to them...).
 
P.S.  I would encourage you to sign up for as many cards as you would be willing to consider buying.  You don't know which of the various cards' queues will reach you first.  Best of luck!

No 3080 FTW Ultra today. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan...

enewt
 I am getting a bit blue in the face about this point, but I strongly believe that reliance on the spreadsheets causes more confusion and frustration than they are worth.  YMMV.

I disagree. They do help to an extent because they can give you a rough idea when to be watching for the email. Yes, they rely on buy-in from those who got a time stamp, but enough people are self-reporting to show us some visible evidence when the queue moves. It also shows us where bottlenecks are likely to occur because there are more time stamps concentrated in a particular interval. No, the spreadsheet is not entirely accurate, but the sample of people who self-reported is sufficient to be able to glean some information from it.
 
The problem with the original spreadsheet is that anyone could touch it. That was a fatal mistake that I would have brought up on day zero had I been in the know. The hybrid spreadsheet is better because you have to logon to your Google account to upload your data, and it sorts the info for you. It prevents ham fisted keyboard operators from pulling an "OOPS" and creating work for someone else, be it a little or a lot. That little bit of accountability and hands off features makes it work a lot better. Unfortunately, not very many people know about the existence of the hybrid sheet so I doubt that we're seeing more than 5% of the time stamps being reported that way. It's probably more like 2-3%.

Supraadam
3070 ftw ultra purchased today
08G-P5-3767-KR 10/29/2020 5:50:40 PM PT YES
 
ty newt for the associate code

 
Congratulations on your new 3070 and thanks for reporting back to the thread.
 
Thank you also for using my Associate’s Code for your 3% discount at check-out.  Enjoy your new card!

coldrain85
 
I disagree. They do help to an extent because they can give you a rough idea when to be watching for the email. Yes, they rely on buy-in from those who got a time stamp, but enough people are self-reporting to show us some visible evidence when the queue moves. It also shows us where bottlenecks are likely to occur because there are more time stamps concentrated in a particular interval. No, the spreadsheet is not entirely accurate, but the sample of people who self-reported is sufficient to be able to glean some information from it.
 
The problem with the original spreadsheet is that anyone could touch it. That was a fatal mistake that I would have brought up on day zero had I been in the know. The hybrid spreadsheet is better because you have to logon to your Google account to upload your data, and it sorts the info for you. It prevents ham fisted keyboard operators from pulling an "OOPS" and creating work for someone else, be it a little or a lot. That little bit of accountability and hands off features makes it work a lot better. Unfortunately, not very many people know about the existence of the hybrid sheet so I doubt that we're seeing more than 5% of the time stamps being reported that way. It's probably more like 2-3%.

As I said in my prior post, YMMV. However, it is almost daily on the "newer" spreadsheets that somebody incorrectly submits an erroneous confirmation of receipt of an invite to purchase email. Others then see that and complain that they've been skipped (or that they are not in the queue despite having an official "my notifies" time stamp), etc. etc.

3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

Dabadger84

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

I'm sorry, You upgraded from a 3090 to what, another 3090 ? yeah, probably the wrong place to boast about reselling a card, at-least at this point in time.

Today was Tuesday and some people got cards.  Hopefully more...many more...will get them tomorrow. 
 
As of 8:45 pm PT Tuesday evening, February 2, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of Tuesday, February 2; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report):
 
Card                                  SKU                        Auto-Notify Timestamp / (Change from Previous Summary)
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                       10/12/2020 16:23:29   (21:24:52)    
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                       10/05/2020 20:52:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra                 3897                       09/19/2020 00:03:32  
3080 XC3 Ultra                   3885                       09/18/2020 08:26:34 
3070 FTW3 Ultra                 3767                       10/29/2020 18:08:36      (03:46:45) 
3070 XC3 Ultra                   3755                       10/31/2020 01:30:39   (11:27:55) 
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3667                       12/01/2020 07:08:53 
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                       09/24/2020 12:40:02   
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                       09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Gaming             3895                       09/16/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                       09/16/2020 11:01:20
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                       10/29/2020 00:00:00
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                       12/08/2020 13:44:00 
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663                       12/01/2020 07:16:00  
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                   3971                       09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                   3881                       09/16/2020 15:14:00  
3070 XC3 Black                   3751                       10/29/2020 06:14:00  
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                       12/10/2020 09:27:13     
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                       12/08/2020 14:19:07     
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3898                       12/16/2020 09:03:37        
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3888                       12/10/2020 09:08:56    
 
Hydro Copper (Delayed)
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC           3989                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3090 XC3 Ultra HC              3979                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC            3899                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Ultra HC              3889                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)       3998                       12/16/2020 09:51:04  
 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Good luck tomorrow! Stay safe!

Oxycontin

Dabadger84

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

I'm sorry, You upgraded from a 3090 to what, another 3090 ? yeah, probably the wrong place to boast about reselling a card, at-least at this point in time.

*facepalm* I love how everyone just takes things as gloat or boasting all the time, reminds me of an old saying - some people aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.
 

coldrain85
The bidding war was your choice, not theirs. Why not just list it for retail + fees and call it at that?

The bidding war was my choice... O_o so I'm supposed to sell it at cost & let some scalper with a bot that scans for low-price listings to buy & resell them at a profit get my card instead of someone that actually wants to use it for, you know, gaming, like I did?  That logic is flawed. 
Saying I am "possibly taking advantage of the situation" to potentially make profit (which after fees, shipping and my initial investment, it's not) would be accurate.  Saying I'm "scalping and gloating about a profit sale" is not.
I would have resold the card locally, but I live literally in bum**** Egypt when it comes to how barren this part of the U.S. is in terms of gamers - there's literally no more than a dozen posts for computer parts sales on Facebook in this area and most of it is older, used stuff, I seriously doubt anyone out here especially given the current economic climate can afford to drop $1900 on a GPU out of nowhere - and if they can, they probably already did.  I tried to resell my 3080 FTW3 Ultra locally when I got rid of that after getting the Hybrid card, no one bit for a week - not wasting that much time waiting again when prices are only going up.
The guy that ended up winning it was the original (first) bidder, gave him a choice of better shipping options (at no cost addition) when the original shipment payment was FREE on the listing, and he asked questions that make me believe it's going to a good home (examples: asked how the card was used, was it overclocked a lot, what temperatures it ran at, etc).  I'm also going to make sure he has the ability to be taken care of via the full warranty, be it through re-registering it himself, or I will handle it with only him having to pay for return shipping of the card, for the life of the warranty.  I do that with all the hardware I resell, be it locally or via EBay.
 
Thanks to Liftedcross for the backup, but I really think it's more a case of what I said earlier.  I.E. some people aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.

enewt
Today was Tuesday and some people got cards.  Hopefully more...many more...will get them tomorrow. 
 
As of 8:45 pm PT Tuesday evening, February 2, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of Tuesday, February 2; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report):
 
Card                                  SKU                        Auto-Notify Timestamp / (Change from Previous Summary)
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                       10/12/2020 16:23:29   (21:24:52)    
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                       10/05/2020 20:52:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra                 3897                       09/19/2020 00:03:32  
3080 XC3 Ultra                   3885                       09/18/2020 08:26:34 
3070 FTW3 Ultra                 3767                       10/29/2020 18:08:36      (03:46:45) 
3070 XC3 Ultra                   3755                       10/31/2020 14:02:44   (11:27:55) 
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3667                       12/01/2020 07:08:53 
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                       09/24/2020 12:40:02   
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                       09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Gaming             3895                       09/16/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                       09/16/2020 11:01:20
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                       10/29/2020 00:00:00
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                       12/08/2020 13:44:00 
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663                       12/01/2020 07:16:00  
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                   3971                       09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                   3881                       09/16/2020 15:14:00  
3070 XC3 Black                   3751                       10/29/2020 06:14:00  
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                       12/10/2020 09:27:13     
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                       12/08/2020 14:19:07     
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3898                       12/16/2020 09:03:37        
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3888                       12/10/2020 09:08:56    
 
Hydro Copper (Delayed)
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC           3989                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3090 XC3 Ultra HC              3979                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC            3899                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Ultra HC              3889                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)       3998                       12/16/2020 09:51:04  
 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Good luck tomorrow! Stay safe!

O_o when there's 6 SKUs on the list for drops and only 3 of them move - guessing we had some non-reported movement or it was a straggler drop today eh?

SirKronan

coldrain85

Dabadger84

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

The bidding war was your choice, not theirs. Why not just list it for retail + fees and call it at that?

Oxycontin

Dabadger84

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

I'm sorry, You upgraded from a 3090 to what, another 3090 ? yeah, probably the wrong place to boast about reselling a card, at-least at this point in time.

Liftedcross

coldrain85

Dabadger84

coldrain85

Dabadger84
3090 FTW3 Hybrid resale got pretty crazy at the end, 17 watchers - in the last 90 seconds of the listing it went up, a lot O_o People are crazy fighting that hard & paying this much over invoice.  I'm offering the dude his choice of shipping method at no extra cost cuz I feel bad that he's paying that much for it - despite the fact that I'm not actually "making" that much since EBay/Paypal fees are a b-i-youknowwhat.

Great, so you're here to tell a bunch of people who are waiting for months to get a card about how you scalped one. Know your audience.

Riiiight.  I used the card for a month then upgraded & resold the other card.  You're confusing scalpers that sell dozens or hundreds of units purely for the profit for someone reselling hardware they're not longer going to use.  How much people bid on it isn't exactly up to me dude.

The bidding war was your choice, not theirs. Why not just list it for retail + fees and call it at that?

Because she had every right to. She had used the card already and decided to upgrad to a different model. She also wanted to make the money back for the upgrade, and so that's the selling method that was chosen.

I get where all three of you are coming from, but ultimately the FOUR of us are all on the SAME side! Dabadger has zero responsibility for the current situation we are in. Yes, technically Dabadger resold one card. ONE CARD. Out of the thousands and thousands that have shipped, that has the statistical significance of ZERO, and they have patiently waited in queues and contributed to this discussion just like the rest of us. Sure, some sensitivity to those have have not even had a CHANCE to buy one yet is always appreciated. 
 
I guarantee, at the end of the day, Dabadger is rooting for all of us to eventually get our spot in line to purchase a card. I have a 3070 I got from Best Buy, quite luckily, but I really REALLY want a 3080, and a hybrid at that. I also want a couple of 3060 ti's for my kids computers. When/if I ever get a 3080, I will likely sell my 3070. I think Dabadger isn't really trying to rub it in, as opposed to just being open and honest about what they're doing with their current graphics card situations. The forum is a public place for sharing, after all. 

On that note, does anyone want to buy a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid Kit? Cause I have one that hasn't even been opened, and it's just sitting in my room in the original shipping box. Thought I was going to just install it on a regular FTW3U, but decided to wait on the Hybrid card instead. 😅

Liftedcross
On that note, does anyone want to buy a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid Kit? Cause I have one that hasn't even been opened, and it's just sitting in my room in the original shipping box. Thought I was going to just install it on a regular FTW3U, but decided to wait on the Hybrid card instead. 😅

Almost ended up in that boat myself with my 3080, had the kit on queue & got my notification I could buy it, and I went "Eh... I'm gonna wait & get a Hybrid card"... 2 months later I went full bonkers & ended up with a Kingpin.
You could always wait & sell the FTW3 card & kit as a bundle after you get your Hybrid card from queue - I'm sure quite a few people would be interested in that, not that the kit is hard to come by, but just getting both in one go.
 

SirKronan
For anyone looking for something to actually be upset about, rather than targeting Dabadger84, read this instead: 
 
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidias-board-partners-didnt-get-any-rtx-30-series-chips-in-january-exclusive/
 
In addition, there's a lively discussion on reddit now about how people are noticing 3070, 3060ti, and even 3090 cards showing up frequently at microcenters and other retailers WAY more often than 3080s. 
 
Why? PROFIT. 
Cheaper silicon goes to 3060ti and 3070. More expensive silicon goes to the $1500+ 3090. 
MEGA PROFIT. MY NAME IS MO! MO MONEY.
Nvidia = nMOdia
 
/rant
 

 
Surprised I am not.  NVidia prioritizing their own profit margins & sales over the AIBs is anything but a shocker, I really think they're trying to squeeze some of the smaller partners out of the business, and that's only magnified by the fact that "FE" cards are no longer reference PCBs, but are in fact custom designed, and much more "competitive" in terms of cooling etc than they used to be... and the fact that NVidia is feeding GPUs in to outputless cards that are made for Miners instead of putting said GPU dies in to cards that are sold to gamers.