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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 05:37:00 (permalink)
And on a cheerful thought.
 
eth is over 2100 a coin
https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate
 
 Highest Avg Hash Rate of 514,496.8107 GH/s was recorded on Monday, April 5, 2021
 
that is equal to 5,144,968.   Nvidia 3080's
 
So the chips are flowing nicely, but not to any gamers.
 
Or for that matter no cards for a small pc builder or a small miner
 
April 5th     5.14 mill 3080's
April 4th     5.04 mill 3080's
April 3rd     N/A
April 2nd    4.90 mill 3080's
April 1st     4.88 mill 3080's
March 31st  N/A
March 30th 4.86 mill 3080's
 
That is about equal to 280,000 3080's in the last week or 40,000 gpus a day.
 
I use Nvidia 3080 chip as the math works better.
 
We know that nvidia and amd have many models more than that.
We all know asics work on eth mining.
So far the gear growth from the First of Jan to April 
 
is 2.93 mill 3080's to  5.14 mill 3080's
 
that is 2.21 mill 3080's in the last 96 days or 23020  3080's each and every day of this year.
 
This is strictly on Nvidia & AMD.
 
Evga
Asus
PNY
MSI  etc are subject to chip availability   Nvidia & AMD can control the chip flow.
 
BTW both AMD and Nvidia are no longer selling directly from their websites where they could easily control sales to gamers by KYC requirements.
It is a sad state of affairs for gamers and small time mine at home people.
 
Big gpu farms and scalpers are doing fine.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 05:39:01 (permalink)
Hitch_Itch
 
 
I know many are not part of this forum topic, I was talking about people that are subscribed and reply when they get the notify 




No one outside of EVGA knows that true number.  It's many many 1000s from anecdotal evidence.  Hundreds of Kingpins alone.  They seem to be dropping several hundred 3060 57s on initial drop days as well.  At almost 34 minutes after the hour, that has to be several thousands of cards dropped there.  There are queues that are desolate wastelands of movement.  There are many that are not.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 05:52:45 (permalink)
I wish there were more of all the cards available for everyone Miners are buying 3080s faster than they can make them, but given the choice, a 3060ti or a 3070 would actually be better. The 3080 doesn't seem to be able to mine very efficiently, relative to those two cards. I guess if you're in an apartment and don't pay per kw/h it doesn't matter. And it's not like there's plenty of 3060ti/3070 to go around. Btw, I don't own a 3080 (yet), I'm just parroting what I've read elsewhere, and my friend's figures from his 3080 (which he recently had to RMA with MSI for repair). 
 
Heck, with ETH prices looking the way they do now, they'd probably buy the CX mining cards if they were actually available and reasonably priced. 

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 05:54:10 (permalink)
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Has anyone kept count on how many people's que has come up since the thread started?
Seems like no more than 100-200 tops which if anywhere near accurate, is really sad, hell even if 1000 peoples que came up, that's sad and there is no way 1000 people in here received a notify. 


The majority of people that get their notify do not report here nor signed up for the spreadsheet. On top of that, 50-80% of all notifies are most likely from individuals that put in notifies for every card (Scalpers,Miners,system builders). 




 
There are many thousands of people who had their notifications come up.  If you spent a minute and looked into how this works, you'd be able to figure that out pretty quick.  Boora has a good handle on these things, and he's not the brightest bulb out there  ;)


well thats not very nice. You could at least say im not the sharpest knife in the cookie jar. ;)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 05:59:01 (permalink)
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Has anyone kept count on how many people's que has come up since the thread started?
Seems like no more than 100-200 tops which if anywhere near accurate, is really sad, hell even if 1000 peoples que came up, that's sad and there is no way 1000 people in here received a notify. 


The majority of people that get their notify do not report here nor signed up for the spreadsheet. On top of that, 50-80% of all notifies are most likely from individuals that put in notifies for every card (Scalpers,Miners,system builders). 




 
There are many thousands of people who had their notifications come up.  If you spent a minute and looked into how this works, you'd be able to figure that out pretty quick.  Boora has a good handle on these things, and he's not the brightest bulb out there  ;)


well thats not very nice. You could at least say im not the sharpest knife in the cookie jar. ;)




Sorry.  Before I've had my coffee.  I'll have to aim to be more woefully unclever in the future.  Cheers Boora.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:10:12 (permalink)
Made manual bookmark for kingpin 3090 hc and ftw3 3080 hc in anticipation for their release
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:17:00 (permalink)

post edited by Hitch_Itch - 2021/04/06 08:26:08

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:25:14 (permalink)
So many of the skews (3080s and 3090s) have not had any cards delivered since early October. 7 months, more than half a year, zero cards delivered to queued waitlisters.

I'm sure everyone at EVGA is working hard, and deserves more money...but many of us work hard and deserve more money. The price increases shouldn't happen when the zero cards have been delivered in 7 months.


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:25:40 (permalink)
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there is not thousands of people in this thread that have replied "yes' to being notified
 



Yes, there have.
There's been 329 reported notifies in the Kingpin queue alone.
No need to be insulting.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:28:14 (permalink)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:29:54 (permalink)
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So many of the skews (3080s and 3090s) have not had any cards delivered since early October. 7 months, more than half a year, zero cards delivered to queued waitlisters.

I'm sure everyone at EVGA is working hard, and deserves more money...but many of us work hard and deserve more money. The price increases shouldn't happen when the zero cards have been delivered in 7 months.


EVGA is not responsible for the global supply issues.  Nor is EVGA responsible for the tariff.  They've more than earned my kudos for maintaining the pricing as long as they have.  Now they should adjust all pricing to better reflect the market - and yes, I mean they should increase the current listed prices to more closely match what their competitors are charging.




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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:30:57 (permalink)
Just curious if the phrase "chill out bro" or "calm down dude" has ever worked in the history of the world...  Maybe I am too old, but bro/bruh triggers me in a way that dude/man does not. :D
 
I can say this...  I do not recall adding my name to any queue spreadsheet since the original back in October for my 3080 FTW3/XC3s.  All the spreadsheet did was give me an initial sense of hope, followed by despair as the number of names between me and the last email sent widened.  I started simply looking at the difference between my queue time and the last notify per SKU (which enewt reports/records daily).  For all of the other queues/skus I signed up for, I chose to leave my name off the sheet, but always reported here when I got my cards (unless a later time had already been reported).
 
This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 
OK time between meetings officially burned.  Good luck on Queuesday, been pretty craptastic the last couple weeks, but maybe we get a Hybrid day!!!  


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 06:52:56 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:01:14 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 




The spreadsheets are not bad.  Kingpin is probably the most accurate, but it's still missing a lot I think.  The UID is the better indicator if it's during peak release time of a card going live for auto-notifies.  The UID is across all products on this site, so on any random day it's hard to say what increments the UID.
 
Also, I know Boora knows this, but I was just giving him a hard time because I kind of like him.  That was just an elbow nudge his way for all of the times he likes to share his thoughts.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:02:14 (permalink)
Good morning and happy Quesday everyone! Good luck today!


12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 9:34:13 AM PT No
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:33:00 AM PT Yes
10G-P5-3898-KR 12/16/2020 9:06:54 AM PT No
10G-P5-3897-KR 12/16/2020 5:27:35 AM PT No
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:02:49 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 


It might be able to provide a "sense" of the "hot skus", but the real mistake is the extrapolation and conclusions drawn from a sample of unknown size.  Plus, I would think "hardcore" EVGA folks are more likely to post here and more likely aiming for higher end cards, but again, that is a guess based on nothing more than gut feeling.  If the spreadsheet helps you, cool, not knocking it.  But for me, it didn't not help me learn anything of much worth (again worth is personal).


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:07:57 (permalink)
Also, enewt doesn't just get information from this thread.  I found his tracker first on Reddit.  He's also said he tracks posts about notifies on Twitter.  He's at least three layers down the rabbit hole with what he is doing.  He focuses on last time reported of a drop.  He may keep count, but probably not.  There's only so much mental space any of us have.
 
post edited by static.quai - 2021/04/06 07:12:42
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:09:29 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 


It might be able to provide a "sense" of the "hot skus", but the real mistake is the extrapolation and conclusions drawn from a sample of unknown size.  Plus, I would think "hardcore" EVGA folks are more likely to post here and more likely aiming for higher end cards, but again, that is a guess based on nothing more than gut feeling.  If the spreadsheet helps you, cool, not knocking it.  But for me, it didn't not help me learn anything of much worth (again worth is personal).


Most of the data is accurate in terms of times. I did a 3080 analysis from launch to 9/21 5PM. I only had ~50 entries out of ~2000 I had to throw out as inaccurate but that is a really good error rate. 
 
You are completely correct tho. It does mainly track hardercore EVGA fans but the results were interesting. 
54.2% signed up for 3897 (2% of which signed up for other cards)
1.7% signed up for 3895
17.3% signed up for 3885
7.9% signed up for 3883
18.9% for 3881
 
I did 5PM 9/21 bc we know the rough UID for that time but didn't have enough data to draw any conclusions.

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:14:16 (permalink)
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You are completely correct tho. It does mainly track hardercore EVGA fans but the results were interesting. 
54.2% signed up for 3897 (2% of which signed up for other cards)
1.7% signed up for 3895
17.3% signed up for 3885
7.9% signed up for 3883
18.9% for 3881
 
I did 5PM 9/21 bc we know the rough UID for that time but didn't have enough data to draw any conclusions.





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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:20:44 (permalink)
The spread sheet is completely trustable.  It simply reflects that chips for gpus are going to large mining farms and not to evga, asu ,msi ,pny etc.
 
We have about 5.1 million 3080's mining if all gear was a 3080.
They earn. 11 bucks to 12 bucks a day or 55 to 60 million a day. Even if all power mining was 30 cents a card makes 9-10 profit every day.
 
so 5.1 million x 9  = 45.9 million daily profit on the low end this would be 16.7 billion yearly
or 5.1 million x 10 = 51.0 million daily profit on the high end this would be 18.6 billion yearly
 
until those numbers drop way way way way way lower  the chips will go to big farms and not to gamers small pc builders or  small mine at home people.
 
Even with hash rate going up from 2.9 million to 5.1 million gpus in under 100 days eth makes more money today than it did back on jan 1.  (price of eth rose a lot)
 
Maybe in July there may be a crash and cards will be easy to get.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 07:27:04 (permalink)
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The spread sheet is completely trustable.  It simply reflects that chips for gpus are going to large mining farms and not to evga, asu ,msi ,pny etc.
 
We have about 5.1 million 3080's mining if all gear was a 3080.
They earn. 11 bucks to 12 bucks a day or 55 to 60 million a day. Even if all power mining was 30 cents a card makes 9-10 profit every day.
 
so 5.1 million x 9  = 45.9 million daily profit on the low end this would be 16.7 billion yearly
or 5.1 million x 10 = 51.0 million daily profit on the high end this would be 18.6 billion yearly
 
until those numbers drop way way way way way lower  the chips will go to big farms and not to gamers small pc builders or  small mine at home people.
 
Even with hash rate going up from 2.9 million to 5.1 million gpus in under 100 days eth makes more money today than it did back on jan 1.  (price of eth rose a lot)
 
Maybe in July there may be a crash and cards will be easy to get.




It will come down to earth eventually.  I have some eth from a few years ago.  It was interesting getting everything set up, but eventually I got tired of how hot my room was getting.  I also didn't like the energy consumption of the process.  I don't hate the idea of alternative currencies, but I simply won't drain the power grid that way anymore.  That bubble will pop, then expand again.  Fair play to the people who got in really early and made millions though.  Not likely to be able to approach that success without very deep pockets to being with now.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:07:02 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 


It might be able to provide a "sense" of the "hot skus", but the real mistake is the extrapolation and conclusions drawn from a sample of unknown size.  Plus, I would think "hardcore" EVGA folks are more likely to post here and more likely aiming for higher end cards, but again, that is a guess based on nothing more than gut feeling.  If the spreadsheet helps you, cool, not knocking it.  But for me, it didn't not help me learn anything of much worth (again worth is personal).


I mean, that is how research works. We do know the sample size; it's simply the amount of people who put their name down. We are making inference on a population of unknown size. There is always a degree of uncertainty, but at this point we have enough data that we are not extrapolating. Is it 100% accurate? No, of course not, but it's pretty good. And at this point, we've been able to track these slowdowns and changes in the pace of GPU distribution.

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the community spreadsheet ☺️. I hope you all get your card soon!
 
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:22:23 (permalink)
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This is why the spreadsheet (in my opinion at least) cannot be trusted, we truly do not know the size of these queues or drops.  We can only hope the reported times are an accurate representation of true movement, but even then, we would only be pleasantly surprised to find out the queue was further ahead than enewt's list and simply not reported here.
 
The closest indicator is the UID/counter someone found in the underlying HTML a few weeks back, relating likely to Notify rows in EVGA's queue database.  That doesn't tell us much detail, but at least the highest UID - lowest UID = minimum number of notifies total across all skus.
 


The spreadsheet is useful if you want the distribution of people who signed up for different cards and are interested enough in EVGA to participate in the forums. Trying to get drop data out of it is pointless though since it is likely a small percentage of all notifies. 


It might be able to provide a "sense" of the "hot skus", but the real mistake is the extrapolation and conclusions drawn from a sample of unknown size.  Plus, I would think "hardcore" EVGA folks are more likely to post here and more likely aiming for higher end cards, but again, that is a guess based on nothing more than gut feeling.  If the spreadsheet helps you, cool, not knocking it.  But for me, it didn't not help me learn anything of much worth (again worth is personal).


I mean, that is how research works. We do know the sample size; it's simply the amount of people who put their name down. We are making inference on a population of unknown size. There is always a degree of uncertainty, but at this point we have enough data that we are not extrapolating. Is it 100% accurate? No, of course not, but it's pretty good. And at this point, we've been able to track these slowdowns and changes in the pace of GPU distribution.

Do we know the sample size as it relates to the entire group?  I poll 10 people, out of how many total?  We dont know...  I also poll on a forum for EVGA queue, is that possibly skewed?  I dont want to get in a political example, but you cannot poll X number of people in Wyoming or X number of people in San Franciso, then extrapolate.  At least in that example, you know about the total number of voters based on history.  We have no idea the total, so extrapolate to what, another unknown or assumption?
 
Listen, I get that the spreadsheet is some of the best info we have, but that is not saying much, since we dont have a lot of visibility into any of this.


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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:25:18 (permalink)
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SirKronanThere is a very healthy amount of EVGA product on these lists
This amounts doesn't looks healthy at all. 100 cards within 3 days look ridiculous. There 1.3 million people in Dallas and 7.5 millions in Dallas Metro Area.
 


Wait... you’re not saying 1 GPU per 75,000 people isn’t healthy, are you???
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:32:50 (permalink)
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im sorry u get triggered by bro/bruh... but boomers need to adapt or die.. nobody uses dude/man anymore..




Lunch time at school kid?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:33:00 (permalink)
Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread by gathering the best information available.  It doesn’t seem like I’m going to make it prior to the price increase on the 3080 (my date is 09/23@noon).  I’m lucky to at least have a 3070, and wish others the best of luck going forward.  
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:34:22 (permalink)
May the trickle begin. Good luck
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:37:49 (permalink)
So does anyone have the math chops to look at the past three months of data and see how far the que for the 3897 moves per week on average?

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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:37:49 (permalink)
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Do we know the sample size as it relates to the entire group?  I poll 10 people, out of how many total?  We dont know...  I also poll on a forum for EVGA queue, is that possibly skewed?  I dont want to get in a political example, but you cannot poll X number of people in Wyoming or X number of people in San Franciso, then extrapolate.  At least in that example, you know about the total number of voters based on history.  We have no idea the total, so extrapolate to what, another unknown or assumption?
 
Listen, I get that the spreadsheet is some of the best info we have, but that is not saying much, since we dont have a lot of visibility into any of this.




Tshalev actually made a very strong point.  You're mixing up sample vs population.  I get why you may not really trust the sample, that's fair.  All we can do, other than a covert operation breaking into EVGA HQ and stealing their data (please no one do this), is take the information we have and go from there.
 
To other person:  Boomers will die.  So will you.  Embrace it, man.  And maybe dial back the cavalier take on what older people need to do.  You'll maybe get there one day.  Maybe even get a GPU from one of these queues, good luck.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process 2021/04/06 08:38:54 (permalink)
Happy Quesday everyone :)

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