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jehoffman1
 
Among the documents was an invitation from the CEO to the Division heads to submit plans as to how the Company's efficiency could be improved. EVERY ONE of the responses I saw proposed a plan in which the proposer would be given more authority over the other Division heads.

From my time spent in corporate culture, this sounds exactly right. 

kaytrimtvMy suggestion to EVGA is to dedicate ALL CARDS produced for the TI lines to this Queue for the first 1-2 weeks to help whittle down the list.  Will they do that probably not. I understand that contracts mush be honored but it sucks for us that want just one card.

This proposal is not crazy enough. I have better proposal: EVGA can make a deal with retailers to sell trough queue. Basically, after cards was send to retailer, retailer sends back links to purchase page(available only by direct link, link should contain individual code for one purchase). EVGA sends this links to queue folks. Next day retailer can sell stuff that wasn't purchased using this links to the public.
 
I don't see any major downsides... except one: you can't use associate codes on other retailers website.
Also people are lazy, I doubt that Best Buy/Amazon/etc. staff willing make more work to achieve same result(all cards sold).
 

zeeesooor
There is no sign for more drops for 3897 at all. We keep getting promises every week but man nothing.

Yeah I'm actually starting to take whatever Jacob says on Twitter with a heavy dose of doubts everytime now. I know the man is doing what he can and is only doing his job, and I know he's not to blame for the shortage and mess, but just like you I keep seeing promises after promises since OCTOBER 2020 and most of them never materialized so far...
 
He said on Twitter we were supposed to get more 3897s this week: I'm still waiting, and I'd be very surprised is the rest of the week is any different than the past 5-6 week, which were pathetically dry...

jehoffman1
 
 
I am a lawyer. Years ago, I was doing a document review at a major corporation. Among the documents was an invitation from the CEO to the Division heads to submit plans as to how the Company's efficiency could be improved. EVERY ONE of the responses I saw proposed a plan in which the proposer would be given more authority over the other Division heads.
 
These suggestions as to how EVGA should rejigger its allocation of cards sound the same.
 
Get used to it:
1. There is an industry-wide shortage of cards and the parts to make them.

 
This is due to the huge demand of more than gamers and this topic has been hashed backwards and forwards in here before so I won't go any further.
 

jehoffman1
2. Nvidia will do whatever it thinks is in its best interest.

 
And they are trying to be helpful by creating mining only cards.  Most of which are on older tech so not to impact the current supply of chips needed for the 3000 series.
 

jehoffman1
3. EVGA and the other GPU card makers will do whatever they think is in their best interests.

 
And try to make a huge profit off of us.  EVGA is doing two things that are greatly appreciated, at least by me.  First the creation of this queue system.  Second by not taking and jacking up their prices as high as some of the other AIBs are doing.  Businesses are in business to make a profit and I don't bemoan them for doing so.  If they didn't make some profit from their customers they wouldn't be in business for long.
 

jehoffman1
4. The people in the queues are likewise acting in their best interest. They buy from scalpers if they get tired of waiting. They enter the Newegg Shuffle in hopes of getting lucky. They buy cards that are not the ones they really want because they know they can resell the cards, new or used, at a profit so long as the shortages last.

 
This is just me personally as I won't try to talk for everyone.  I absolutely refuse to buy from scalpers, they are in my opinion equal to thieves.  Yes I am attempting to use the Shuffle to get a card, even by downgrading my desire/need of a 3080 to a 3070.  However I will not be reselling the 3070 I may get as I will be pulling myself out of the market so that others will have a chance.
 

jehoffman1
5. The people in the queues are among the least important of EVGA's customers. Retailers, systems builders, and others buy a lot more product than do people in the queues.

 
Yet these people that have been waiting for months are the most loyal to the brand, the ones that will do word of mouth advertising, which is advertising that no business can buy.  I am hoping that EVGA can reward that loyalty by paying a little more attention to this queue.
 

jehoffman1
6. None of EVGA's customers are able to get the products they want when they want them.

 
Let's just expand this, Nobody can get the products they want no matter from whom when they want them due to the current market pressures.
 

jehoffman1
7. The shortages will end eventually, but probably not for several months yet.

 
I can't argue that fact except that I am afraid that it may be more than several months.  Some people are even saying it will be this time next year before things settle down.
 

jehoffman1
8. Until the shortages end, none of the customers for GPUs will be happy.
9. Whining won't change #8.
 

 
These last two go without saying, yet you felt the need to add them.
 

jehoffman1
 
I've been looking at No's on my Notify List for 4 months now. Like the rest of you, I just have to keep waiting. I am now 1 minute out on a 3060. The closer I get, the more disappointing it is each day not to finally reach the finish line.

Yet you will get there a lot sooner than I will.  Due to my personal situation I was unable to commit to these queues until after the first of the year.  So I am way out of the picture on anything I signed up for here.  I am staring at a computer build with two huge gaping holes, the CPU and GPU.  The reason why I won't fill these holes with lesser parts is because I have a standard that I am trying to adhere to, something that will last me for several years.  Yet I am lowering my standard on the GPU to a 3070 due to the current market.  I will probably have to upgrade that sooner than I would wish.

Dang, 3080 XC3s haven't budged a day since I last checked in early February. Walmart and Best Buy actually had 3080 XC3s in stock last Friday so was thinking EVGA's queue for them might start moving too... guess not.

Urobulus

zeeesooor
There is no sign for more drops for 3897 at all. We keep getting promises every week but man nothing.

Yeah I'm actually starting to take whatever Jacob says on Twitter with a heavy dose of doubts everytime now. I know the man is doing what he can and is only doing his job, and I know he's not to blame for the shortage and mess, but just like you I keep seeing promises after promises since OCTOBER 2020 and most of them never materialized so far...
 
He said on Twitter we were supposed to get more 3897s this week: I'm still waiting, and I'd be very surprised is the rest of the week is any different than the past 5-6 week, which were pathetically dry...

stock ramping for october 2020 still going.. massive cards supply coming

enewt

jehoffman1

enewt
Like Nicollette Sheridan's character in that superlative John Cusack vehicle, those of us in the queues are a sure thing. We need to be more like Alison Bradbury...(as an aside, whatever happened to Daphne Zuniga?).

Are you serious, Ed?
 
Those in the queues are probably the LEAST sure thing of EVGA's customers.

I know I am not a sure thing. If lightening strikes and I win the Newegg shuffle today, I am DONE.


Many of the others in the queues are likewise probably sure things. I know Bradsour's spreadsheets are incomplete because they depend on people reporting. Nonetheless, it appears that at least some of the people who were on the queues did not buy when their turn came to buy a card.
 
Right now, though, Newegg, Best Buy, B&H, and Amazon ARE sure things. They are selling cards as fast as they get them. No doubt each of them would welcome many more cards from EVGA.
 
Finally, I am embarrassed to admit that I have no idea who Sheridan, Bradbury and Zuniga are, but my ignorance hardly merits further discussion.

I am serious...and don't call me Shirley...or Ed....
 
What I meant by it is the following...every card that they send to the queues will be purchased, full stop.  Whether they send 5 or 50.  But, for folks that are not as hard core as we all are...yes, I am looking at you @fishbed...you are hard core!...they will go to a Best Buy or Microcenter and get whatever card they can find...EVGA needs to be there or they will certainly lose out on that sale...and the potential to build goodwill and consumer loyalty with that softcore dude.  If @fishbed elects to pass on the 3060 for which he receives a queue notification, @justin_44 will certainly purchase it.  The names on the queue are fungible and -- frankly -- irrelevant, but we represent sure things.  
 
The dude that walks into Best Buy, he will buy a 30XX if it is available, but EVGA only has a shot at that sale if it has inventory on the shelf.  Less of a sure thing in my opinion.  

Selling cards to people who are in the queue is not only a sure thing, it also encourages these hard core fans to buy other evga products. Or not, if they wait for months without getting anything and then lucks out in a shuffle or some such. 
 

static.quai

Shogouki
 
No worries, I realize the chances are incredibly small.  Thanks anyways.
 
Developing new hobbies for me has been extremely difficult because of money (I've been using what extra I can to keep my PC online), poor mental health, isolation (even pre-pandemic), and some side effects from medication (like unsteady hands and twitches and tics).  I know it would be very good for me though.  I think once I can get vaccinated it will be somewhat easier but for now I'm pretty much housebound.

These are tough times.  It's like the brain can only process so much, and it can build up residue over time.  Then a certain series of events happens, combined with pandemic, combined with so many things that were not great in the past year (or years), and it can weigh on you.  The best advice I can give you is to talk to someone.  There are hotlines out there, and while it doesn't seem like it would help, just having someone to talk it out with can be hugely beneficial.  Medications are great, but they also can swing you in unexpected ways too.  Just don't keep bottling it up.  That residue stacks.  Reach out to a family member, a friend, a clergy member if you follow that, or a random stranger on a hotline if you're feeling really isolated.
 
I hope your chance for a vaccination comes soon.  It's ramping up.  Better times are coming.

Thanks, I really probably should do that as I have bottled up a great deal.  I've been afraid to talk to family because things have been stressful for a very long time and I'm terribly afraid of how low sharing the things I've been feeling would bring them.  Hotline might be a good idea to try sometime soon.  Thanks for the encouragement. 

Shogouki
 
 
Thanks, I really probably should do that as I have bottled up a great deal.  I've been afraid to talk to family because things have been stressful for a very long time and I'm terribly afraid of how low sharing the things I've been feeling would bring them.  Hotline might be a good idea to try sometime soon.  Thanks for the encouragement. 

Trust your gut on who you should talk to.  Sometimes family is hard because it brings them down, or maybe they bring you down in how the conversation goes.  It's a tough road to navigate.  The beauty of the hotline approach is there is no baggage they bring into the conversation.  It's more like a salve than a solution, but sometimes the salve helps you get to the solution.

TheRealMikeVan
Another sad day for the 3897 :(

In other news, might be an unpopular opinion, but I’m tired of seeing all the big posts with a bunch of calculations over the hashrate for Ethereum.. I feel like half of their post count on this forum have been from telling us about mining profitability.. :/

It can feel like it sometimes, but in reality it's not close to that at all.  The larger majority of posts are the observation that x sku didn't drop, y sku did drop, and why it sucks that this is drawing out like it is (or why evga is awesome for at least trying something different).  The eth posts are scattered and try to explain what's going on with x.  I think it's just when people talk about hash rates, it's a larger post.  I think it's informative, but I agree with you that it is filler that isn't really needed.  I think having discussions is good though, so my question would be, other than getting great news on drops, what would you prefer people discuss?  We can't exactly will drops into being.  I'd argue that people sharing critical thinking takes is more useful than x didn't drop.  It's clear x didn't drop.  Better to try and understand why in a way other than nvidia / contracts / supply chain / manufacturing woes.

I noticed it says one per house hold but some Jack ass in my area is waiting on a back order of 40 and selling for twice the price as evga , how is this possible

retailers and such, hence the "backorder"

No reports today? Dang... This is saddening

I think the facts I alluded to are being disregarded. I'm not saying EVGA is being greedy. I'm saying the optics of delivering zero cards in many high-end skews for 7 months looks unethical, as if they were being greedy, because that increase of $70, while not a lot, and far from what others have done, can't help but feel dirty because it is in the the neighborhood of $1M. I'm not saying the price increase is too much, I'm saying I feel done wrong by there being zero cards delivered in high-end skews, ZERO.

3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                       10/06/2020 06:21:58  
3080 FTW3 Ultra                 3897                       09/21/2020 08:14:51  
3080 XC3 Ultra                   3885                       09/18/2020 09:24:53     
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                       09/24/2020 16:12:06      
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                       09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Gaming             3895                       09/16/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                       09/16/2020 11:01:20
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                   3971                       09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                   3881                       09/16/2020 15:14:00

If you go back in the pages you will see these have not moved since early October, some have not moved at all since this thread's inception. Zero is a hell of a number, scratch that, it isn't a number. It is zero. In 7 months it is zero. If after April 16th we do get movement, then that is even dirtier. Each one of these skews represent a few $mil profit each of waitlisters and more in realized sales. I'm not trying to be ungrateful. I want to be loyal. I want to think kind things. I want to have empathy. I already think low of other brands. I know the other brands are ran by POS. I get that even after the price hike, EVGA will still be the best deal with best service, but zero in 7 months is getting kind crazy, and when you see what have been delivered everywhere else and even by EVGA to retail and SIs, damn it makes me salty. Fricking zero.