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2016/11/19 01:08:35 (permalink)
I didn't really knew where to ask, so I asking here.
 
With upcoming* release of Zen platform I would like to inquire if EVGA plan to support new AM4 platform. I know from multiple interviews that company stick with nVidia for GPUs and I understand that. However considering that AMD was (and still is) in CPU wilderness for past -whooo- decade+, perhaps support for Zen would be a good thing. Just thinking aloud here.
 
If yes I'll be thrilled (if Zen delivers of course), if not (and Zen is a success) it'll be massive downer to look elsewhere for boards. No reason to hide that I'm EVGA motherboard Junkie with capital J.
 
* - "AMD upcoming" means between now and 72 months. ;-D Cruel? Well perhaps a bit, but still very true. LOL
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 07:07:26 (permalink)
    EVGA is Nvidia and Intel only. Why? From what I understand it has to do with EVGA's relationship with Nvidia. EVGA gets to market special products by being Nvidia only, such as the KingPin editions and what not.
     
    Even if that wasn't the case... most gamers today are running Intel. Why does this matter? If EVGA spends say, $500,000 on research and development of an AMD board and wants to sell them at $250 a piece. That's 2000 boards they need to sell to make their costs for development, then there is also equipment costs, labor, the power... There's a lot of hidden stuff that the consumer never considers. 
     
    At the end of the day, there is someone at EVGA with his pencil and his calculators that has already done the math. It's just simply not worth it to EVGA to make AMD boards.
     
    EVGA tailors to enthusiasts. At the moment, AMD just doesn't cut it. Zen could be big, but i'm tired of the AMD hype personally. 

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 07:20:26 (permalink)
    AMD will need to gain more market share before we see small motherboard mfg jump on board.
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 07:30:28 (permalink)
    MSim
    AMD will need to gain more market share before we see small motherboard mfg jump on board.


    But they used to make AMD motherboards and stopped..............That's what brought me here so long ago AMD board with SLI support............
    http://forums.evga.com/Is...rds-again-m231066.aspx
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 12:56:05 (permalink)
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    AMD will need to gain more market share before we see small motherboard mfg jump on board.


    But they used to make AMD motherboards and stopped..............That's what brought me here so long ago AMD board with SLI support............
    http://forums.evga.com/Is...rds-again-m231066.aspx




    If AMD can turn things around, who knows maybe one day evga might sell AMD motherboards again.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 14:51:59 (permalink)
    I have been a member for 10 years and they haven't sold any AMD products. How long ago was this?

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:05:01 (permalink)
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    I didn't really knew where to ask, so I asking here.
     
    With upcoming* release of Zen platform I would like to inquire if EVGA plan to support new AM4 platform. I know from multiple interviews that company stick with nVidia for GPUs and I understand that. However considering that AMD was (and still is) in CPU wilderness for past -whooo- decade+, perhaps support for Zen would be a good thing. Just thinking aloud here.
     
    If yes I'll be thrilled (if Zen delivers of course), if not (and Zen is a success) it'll be massive downer to look elsewhere for boards. No reason to hide that I'm EVGA motherboard Junkie with capital J.
     
    * - "AMD upcoming" means between now and 72 months. ;-D Cruel? Well perhaps a bit, but still very true. LOL


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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:16:07 (permalink)
     
    I doubt very much that it will happen. Nvidia and Intel is a better combination. Words of advice. If ever offered the AMD kool-Aid, just tell them you want something stronger. Like an Nvidia / Intel combo drink. Make it a double. (Hold the ice).           

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:32:34 (permalink)
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    I have been a member for 10 years and they haven't sold any AMD products. How long ago was this?


    Not sure of the time/ date whatever but here is an example in all its utterly poor color glory.............http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188002
     
    I'm betting if I dig around my P/C "stuff" I might find said ugly item
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:34:14 (permalink)
    OMG, but then it was when ATI was Still Making the Graphics Cards
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:38:46 (permalink)
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    I doubt very much that it will happen. Nvidia and Intel is a better combination. Words of advice. If ever offered the AMD kool-Aid, just tell them you want something stronger. Like an Nvidia / Intel combo drink. Make it a double. (Hold the ice).           





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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:43:53 (permalink)
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    I doubt very much that it will happen. Nvidia and Intel is a better combination. Words of advice. If ever offered the AMD kool-Aid, just tell them you want something stronger. Like an Nvidia / Intel combo drink. Make it a double. (Hold the ice).           





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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:48:30 (permalink)
     

    Damn that's ugly. The only thing that looks good on there is the EVGA logo.. lol
     
     


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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:50:48 (permalink)
    But then it was when ATI was Still Making the Graphics Cards
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:52:15 (permalink)
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    Kind of drastic to drop EVGA if they make an AMD product.
     
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    I think the color is more vibrant with the AMD card for some reason. Not a bad card at all.
    I had it paired with a hexcore AMT 1045T overclocked to 4ghz and it played every game just as well as my i7-3939K


    OK A Little Off Sides is all. And I still have the AMD R9 290X Graphics Cards.
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 15:58:44 (permalink)
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    I doubt very much that it will happen. Nvidia and Intel is a better combination. Words of advice. If ever offered the AMD kool-Aid, just tell them you want something stronger. Like an Nvidia / Intel combo drink. Make it a double. (Hold the ice).           





    Back in the day it wasn't .................................<<<This will probably raise some hairs on peoples necks


    Talk about a Scare Factor Howdy.





    Yes but No, I did not have my first Intel processor until BigAdv came out. Until that point I have never owned a Intel CPU. AMD was the underdog giving the bully Intel a run for its money on the gaming end of CPUs but couldn't touch them on the nVidia GPU side. Also, nVidia was the "little" guy on that part too. This goes way back to BFG and their take on the "lifetime warranty" card swap who then went out of business and I found little ole EVGA doing the same idea. WOW am I old..................... IIRC my machine that is sitting collecting dust is a FX55 with 2 480s and 465..............It had been sacrificed for water cooling parts but still mostly intact.
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 16:01:11 (permalink)
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    I doubt very much that it will happen. Nvidia and Intel is a better combination. Words of advice. If ever offered the AMD kool-Aid, just tell them you want something stronger. Like an Nvidia / Intel combo drink. Make it a double. (Hold the ice).           





    Back in the day it wasn't .................................<<<This will probably raise some hairs on peoples necks


    Talk about a Scare Factor Howdy.





    Yes but No, I did not have my first Intel processor until BigAdv came out. Until that point I have never owned a Intel CPU. AMD was the underdog giving the bully Intel a run for its money on the gaming end of CPUs but couldn't touch them on the nVidia GPU side. Also, nVidia was the "little" guy on that part too. This goes way back to BFG and their take on the "lifetime warranty" card swap who then went out of business and I found little ole EVGA doing the same idea. WOW am I old.....................


    Yes we are getting old, and I did go back to AMD CPUs in the BigAdv Days
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/19 16:04:39 (permalink)
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    Yes we are getting old AND VERY WISE, and I did go back to AMD CPUs in the BigAdv Days


    I fixed that for you


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 00:31:49 (permalink)
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    ypsylon Are you not Happy with your EVGA X99 Classified Motherboard?
    The Day EVGA starts to make AMD Motherboards or AMD Graphics Cards is the day I drop EVGA.
     

     
    Of course I'm. I have 2 of them, soon will start work on 2nd permanent setup just for running BOINC. But if Zen's performance is better and I can get for example this 16 core/32 threads Naples beasts for the price of 6950K or so then it's a no-brainer for number crunching! AMD cannot afford to do Intel and charge outrageous amount of $$$ because nobody will buy it. They need for Zen to sell very well right of the bat and Intel will drop prices immediately to stay competitive (that will be depressing experience for most folks who already bought overpriced chips by good factor...).
     
    You're a bit extreme with dropping EVGA (yeah ...EVGA...) when they make AMD product. I'm far from being a fan of AMD. I've said that after 4 disasters/or near ones/ with AMD cards (all 4 I owned) I'll never again buy card from AMD, even if nVidia is not top of the line (hard to imagine at this moment in time). However AMD CPUs were always competitive until the time when AMD missed the train called 'Intel-Core-architecture'. If they deliver superb Zen product I have no problems with trying it. 
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 05:02:41 (permalink)
    EVGA's last flagship motherboard for AMD was the 590a. The 730a came out later, but it was just the fizzle out of AMD/Nvidia boards for EVGA. I'm glad Nvidia no longer makes chipsets for the mainstream boards... I hated every Nvidia chipset board I have owned. Drivers were always a nightmare on those. I will never forget losing both of my ethernet ports due to a Nvidia graphics driver that also changed my ethernet drivers.
     
    EVGA has an exclusive contract with Nvidia. They will not be making any AMD products a part of their product line. I have seen this question asked at least once a year pretty much since after I joined... It's always the same thing, nope. It's also always the same response from the brand loyal customers too... That have tunnel vision on it's superiority, rather than innovation.

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 05:22:01 (permalink)
    I don't agree with the idea. I'm a firm believer in  the more different products/items you produce and make, the lower your quality control and quality assurance is.

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 05:36:53 (permalink)
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    I don't agree with the idea. I'm a firm believer in  the more different products/items you produce and make, the lower your quality control and quality assurance is.




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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 06:31:35 (permalink)
    Over 8 years ago EVGA released this information. Despite the length of time I haven't seen any manager of EVGA release anything to the contrary since that time for AMD processors and/or AMD video cards:
     
    http://www.bit-tech.net/n...e-110-percent-nvidia/1

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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/20 13:22:23 (permalink)
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    Over 8 years ago EVGA released this information. Despite the length of time I haven't seen any manager of EVGA release anything to the contrary since that time for AMD processors and/or AMD video cards:
     
    http://www.bit-tech.net/n...e-110-percent-nvidia/1


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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2016/11/22 11:41:06 (permalink)
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    The Day EVGA starts to make AMD Motherboards or AMD Graphics Cards is the day I drop EVGA.



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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2021/06/10 21:30:41 (permalink)
    Who's #1 now Boyz.. #AMD
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2021/06/10 21:31:57 (permalink)
     
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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2021/06/10 21:34:52 (permalink)
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    Who's #1 now Boyz.. #AMD

    ..and yet here you are on an Intel / Nvidia forum, NECROPOSTING A 5 YEAR OLD THREAD.
     
     


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    Re: EVGA stance on AMD's Zen motherboards 2021/06/14 15:10:09 (permalink)
    i think evga has a partnership with nvidia and intel tbh lol.
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