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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/05/10 11:37:46 (permalink)
I fail at mem OC
 
 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/05/16 20:10:25 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/05/21 20:20:22 (permalink)
I don't bump it back down after training. I am unaware of any correlation between high sa/io and imc degradation, that doesn't mean that there isn't any though. I just haven't seen it yet at my side.
When I was testing the 390 dark alot, I was beating the hell out of some 9900k cpus 1.55+ io/sa for the really high 4900mhz+ LL benching mostly on air cooling too. Kept working well every session without any decrease in overclockability that I could tell. 
 
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Do yall bump VCCSA/IO back down to under 1.4 - 1.45 after training?  When shooting for High-ish Bdie clocks? or Leave it up at 1.4/ 1.45 for the entirety of the bench session?
 
In my small sample size of 3 9900K's I can't get training @4300+ w/o at least 1.4v SA and I am pretty sure my chips don't enjoy long exposures to 1.4v sa/io.
 
One of my CPU's after running 1.45v SA for about 5 bench sessions of ~5 hours per session decided it only likes at least 1.375v+ SA regardless of clock.
 
Which i correlated with a degradation of IMC associated with SA V at 1.4v but I didn't know how to validate that theory and am mostly just in a state of perpetual speculation and assumption. #feelsbad
 
 
 
 





 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/05/22 03:42:48 (permalink)

Testing Super PI 32M 5GHZ efficiency. Btw these are A2 PCB B-dies
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/06/10 20:59:53 (permalink)
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Testing Super PI 32M 5GHZ efficiency. Btw these are A2 PCB B-dies


Nice clocks and timings.

 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/07/09 13:24:23 (permalink)
did someone use A2 mem with tight timings like tfures, but not HOF-Mem maybe g.skill?
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/07/09 20:32:45 (permalink)
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did someone use A2 mem with tight timings like tfures, but not HOF-Mem maybe g.skill?




Yes. Sabishii Hito did with GSKill 4000C17 Royal.
Check first page of this thread: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2934265
 
 


 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/07/10 09:14:46 (permalink)
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did someone use A2 mem with tight timings like tfures, but not HOF-Mem maybe g.skill?




Yes. Sabishii Hito did with GSKill 4000C17 Royal.
Check first page of this thread: 
 
 


4k are not the problem, but over 4k is not possible with G.Skill A2, with HOF-Mem no problem.
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/07/10 21:38:34 (permalink)
Oh, I see. I have a Gskill 3600 Royal (A2) kit to check. Only the time is the problem :)
I will try in weekend and let you know.


 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/02 09:45:18 (permalink)
how tight you wants ? c12 or c14 
with c12 i can reach 4133 with c14 i can bench gb3 at 4933 
 


 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/02 09:53:38 (permalink)
Geekbench 3  X299 Dark My Z390 Dark is on Order ATM
http://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench3/8798272
Are you using the same OC Setting that is Posted in Post #1 for the CPU?

 

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https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14145618 X299 Dark My Z390 Dark is on Order ATM
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/4378806
 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/02 10:20:00 (permalink)
CL12 but with 1T 😉
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/02 13:47:37 (permalink)
I'm using the same settings from the first post, but with A2 Mems it was not possible to boot with 12-11 or 12-12 higher than 4000 and tight timings 😔
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/09 08:45:08 (permalink)
Here is some testing i've done today. I compared memory kits A1 vs A2: Galax HOF OC Lab 4133C19 vs GSkill Royal 3600C16.
Platform: 9900K @ 5Ghz, Z390 Dark BIOS 0.93, VCCIO 1.25, VCCSA 1.25
RAM: 4000 15-15-15-30-2 @ 1.60v

I've used X265 4K as benchmark.
 
Results:
A1: BSOD before entering Windows or benchmark run 2 frames and stops. Also tried 1.65v for RAM. Same issues.
A2: benchmark run flawlessly. no problems at all. I can even lower TWRRD_sg / dg to 26 / 22. It even run in overkill mode!
 
So the last BIOS is definitely optimized for A2 memory PCB.
 
Update: Even better! 4133 @ 1.75v

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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/08/28 16:14:09 (permalink)
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how tight you wants ? c12 or c14 
with c12 i can reach 4133 with c14 i can bench gb3 at 4933 
 



Can you please send me your profiles for 4133 C12 and 4800 C14?
I tested three kits, with the TeamGroup it was possible to use 4800 and C14 but not 4xxx with C12.
Two more kits from G.Skill can only run with C12 and 4000, 4700 or 4800 with C14 not possible. Both kits make it on the Asus Apex XI :(.
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/09/08 13:21:26 (permalink)
Some good info.
 
Is there any tutorial specifically for sub-timings?

Z390 DARK, 9900K, 2080 FTW3 ULTRA, GSKILL 4500, 960EVO M.2
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/11/19 14:05:14 (permalink)
Hello all
Congrats to EVGA for a great overclocking product.
Mem overclocking has tons of dependencies, dimms, motherboard, imc, vsa, etc...
 
Following on this thread for tight timings.
 
My experience on bios 0.92 or the latest 1.07 regarding memory tight timings:
- A1/A0 layout @4133K C12 1T no issues
- A2 layout @4K C12 1T no issues
- A2 layout @4133K C12 1T fails to train, boot loops
- superpi-timings.jpg timings used for all the diff memory layouts
- superpi-timings-variation.jpg timings used for all except tridentz
 
Might be that the imc can't train A2 at 4133K 1T (imc handles 4800C14 2T geekbench, imc max frequency 51K 2T single channel).
 
dimm voltage, vccio, vsa adjusted per speed and memory kit used.
 
Memory and voltages used:
 
A1 - Tridentz 4266 19-19-19-39 - 4133K C12 1T - dimm 2.05 - vsa 1.45 - vccio 1.45
A0 - Galax Master 4000 19-25-25-45 - 4133K C12 1T - dimm 1.95 - vsa 1.45 - vccio 1.45
A2 - Hyperx Predator 4133 19-23-23-45 - 4000 C12 1T - dimm 1.95 to 2 - vsa 1.35 - vccio 1.35
A2 - Galax Extreme 4266 19-19-19-39 - 4000 C12 1T - dimm 1.95 - vsa 1.35 - vccio 1.35
 
Best
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/12/06 06:25:10 (permalink)
 
Some very impressive memory clock/timings in the OP. I've done plenty of CPU overclocking and quite a bit of GPU overclocking, but generally run my memory just using XMP settings. Outside of benchmarks, does it make much of a noticeable difference in day to day use / gaming when overclocking the memory? ..and I mean reasonably achievable overclocking to run 24/7, not the insanity that KingPin has the skills to coax out of pretty much any hardware that can be overclocked lol.
 
 

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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/12/06 06:30:12 (permalink)
 
p.s. handy b-die finder: https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/
 

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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2019/12/29 15:04:50 (permalink)
gone quiet here 
the new HOF are no problem for 12-12, only 4800 14-13 do not want to start 
 

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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/11 04:09:37 (permalink)
Hello all
Following up on my initial comment, I have come across a different A2 kit.
Dark can train successfully with tight timings A2 1T:
A2 - Tridentz 4400 19-19-19-39 - 4266K C12 1T - dimm 2.045 - vsa 1.45 - vccio 1.45
Probably the vsa and vccio can be lowered, i've just kept the same as the board oc profiles.
At 4133 C12 1T geekbench 3 completes successfully.
At 4266 Unfortunately my cpu imc must be on the edge, and cannot complete geekbench 3 (fails at stream add or copy).
Can train at 4133 or 4266, but not at 4200, probably it is kit related.
Looks like its Silicon lottery for A2 low latency compared to A0 or A1.
sergmann can you provide the dimm voltage, vsa and vccio?
Best.
post edited by luakri - 2020/01/11 05:01:15
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/11 09:47:22 (permalink)
VDimm 2.055/-55 SA 1.35 / IO 1.30 more is not necessary for me.
I have also tested some A1/A0 and A2 Kit. Only HOF can run without any problem 4200 12-12 1T, but it is not possible on Asus XI Gene. My G.Skill I can run 4000 12-11 on Durk and 4800+ but not possible to boot with 4133. On Gene it works 🤣
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/11 10:59:13 (permalink)
Thank you for sharing the voltage settings used for the 4286 CL12 1T, it is really helpful.
Believe it is all silicon lottery, diff boards and memory training, cpu, dimms.
Best.
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/12 04:28:49 (permalink)
Ambient temperature dropped this morning,  I tried same settings last night without success.
Successfully completed geekbench 4266 CL12 1T dimm 2.055 / vtt -55 / vsa 1.35 / vccio 1.3.
Mem oc is hard... tons of factors.
Apparently not all dimms behave the same, same applies for voltage and temperature tolerance.
 
 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/12 14:32:17 (permalink)
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Ambient temperature dropped this morning,  I tried same settings last night without success.
Successfully completed geekbench 4266 CL12 1T dimm 2.055 / vtt -55 / vsa 1.35 / vccio 1.3.
Mem oc is hard... tons of factors.
Apparently not all dimms behave the same, same applies for voltage and temperature tolerance.
 
 




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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/14 01:37:20 (permalink)
a0 or a2 pcb ? 

 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/14 01:38:47 (permalink)
my screen is with A2 mems from HOF
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/14 01:59:47 (permalink)
i will restart mine and make picture of my memory profile . 
 
for a0 and a2 

 
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/14 13:32:58 (permalink)
My screen with Tridentz 4400 19-19-19-39 is A2 layout.
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Re: EVGA Z390 DARK and B-Die based low latency memory overclocking 2020/01/17 22:35:09 (permalink)
@4800 cl 18, Patriot Viper 4400 cl 19  
 

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