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dejanh

No, power cycling is not normal.  No other board that I have tried did it.

FWIW, my Asus P6T X58 did power cycle on certain BIOS changes.  As an extreme example, setting failsafe defaults is 100% guaranteed to cycle power on every board I've ever used.  While its true my Classified cycles power on more BIOS changes than the Asus and that the Asus POSTs faster from both warm and cold boots than the 760, I don't think its accurate to claim power cycling is a problem limited to EVGA boards.  Maybe EVGA cycles on VT being enabled/disabled, I also remember the Asus completely cycled power if you enabled/disabled # of cores.  Sounds more like a safety precaution more than anything else really.

lcd1860nx

XMP for memory seems to be set at a lower number.
 
I have XMP selected for the memory. (Mushkin 998659 PC3-12800)
 
Before Memory Clock would boost up to 800 MHZ and the Memory Speed would read DDR3-1600 (as I recall) but now the Memory Clock reads 638 MHz and the Memory Speed is DDR3-1276. CPU FSB is the same at 160 MHz.
 
These are the readings in Everest.
 
I have gone back into bios and it does show XMP for the memory in the Frequency/Voltage Control Section. I realize that some recommend using the actual settings for memory but I want to keep it simple.
 
Am I missing something?

firerx

firerx

this has been a Normal Behavior since the Vanilla EX-58 motherboard. Just most of you that don't use VT on a regular basis never noticed it. It's not a bug.

dejanh

firerx

this has been a Normal Behavior since the Vanilla EX-58 motherboard. Just most of you that don't use VT on a regular basis never noticed it. It's not a bug.

Only board I've owned from EVGA is the E759.  I use VT and this has been an annoying bug since the beginning.  Unfortunately, your claim that this is not a bug has no backing what-so-ever.  Other boards do not do it, so why should this one?  Either it is a BIOS fault or a board engineering fault.  Either way, it is a bug.  It's very clearly a bug. 

 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=WrjwaqZfjIY
a designed action is NOT a bug! Get it right. You better off asking for a design modifiaction to VT on boot up, then to insult the manufacturer labeling all of your displeasures as "BUGS". Just ask them politely, I 'm sure they would have a logical answer for you, or solution. Sometime, I think people come on here for the sake of being contrarian. Geez!

firerx

dejanh

Wow, I cannot believe you are still arguing with us over this.  Have it your way.  I want my bug fixed, and if the BIOS fixing the bug ever comes out please do not upgrade to it.

You're so think headed it's not even funny.  You say this is "designed" action?  Where is your proof?  So far the other side has a clear argument in that no other board does this...

You yourself said you have not seen this in the Gigabyte board, I can confirm that.  I can also say for a fact that neither the R2E or the R2G from Asus do this because I either own or owned both of them, and owners of P6T have not indicated that this is a problem.  So where does that leave us?  EVGA boards are the only ones that are doing this.

Raja does not work for EVGA.  He works for Anandtech.  What business is it of his to answer questions about the design of an EVGA board?  In terms of Peter, I already asked him about this.  You know what I got as an answer?  Nothing, blank, nada, lot's of empty space, nothing.  Same with the rest of EVGA people, absolute radio silence.

How much you want to bet this is a bug that they do not know how to fix or cannot easily fix so they are avoiding?

Please use the phone number in the previous post to articular to the bios writers your concerns. I hope you get you answer you desire.

firerx

I'll buy you a box of Desenex if you just shut up! Nothing is requiring you to buy EVGA mother board. Jaysus! Take the infantile egomaniac crap elsewhere. The fight is not with me, okay. I didn't design the board, and quite honestly don't even care about the VT thing at all. It a matter of Design. If you don't like, buy something else.

firerx

The vinilla x-58 board also responds in this manner. When you build enough machines with various mother boards you'd see that. The only one I have not seen this behavior in is the Gigabyte board. I would venture if someone asked Shamino, or Raja the reason for the "double pump" boot up for VT enhancement. they would give you a good answer. Since Shamino configures the bios.  If you require a quicker response, call 1-888-881-3842, and ask them point blank. It's there dime for the call. and I'm sure someone there, weather it's Pete, or Jacob can answer your question to your satisfation.

Moltenlava


This is about the only thing that bothers me about EVGA they clam up when the "hard" questions are asked, maybe they just dont have an answer, thats the way their BIOS works and it may be too much hassle to try and stop it happening, who knows.

ShockTheMonky

Here's a liitle guide from Microsoft about setting up VT Systems. Look half way down or so at the highlighted area labled "IMPORTANT!".

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee256067(WS.10).aspx

Important After you save the changes to the parameters in the BIOS, restarting the computer is sometimes not enough for those changes to take effect. In some cases, you need to completely turn off the computer and then turn it on.

Moltenlava

ShockTheMonky

Here's a liitle guide from Microsoft about setting up VT Systems. Look half way down or so at the highlighted area labled "IMPORTANT!".

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee256067(WS.10).aspx

I think the issue here is that it doesnt just happen on changes, atleast not visible ones made by the operator.

Once you enable VT it will always power cycle on a restart when no BIOS changes have been made, not just when you make a change save then exit.

the board could be making some behind the scenes alterations to your BIOS settings though, reconfiguring on each restart, i think i was read something about that happening with the memory controller, you will notice that someitimes if you leave Round Trip Latency on auto it will change from restart tor restart.

Davabled

ShockTheMonky

Here's a liitle guide from Microsoft about setting up VT Systems. Look half way down or so at the highlighted area labled "IMPORTANT!".

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee256067(WS.10).aspx

From the technet link:

Important After you save the changes to the parameters in the BIOS, restarting the computer is sometimes not enough for those changes to take effect. In some cases, you need to completely turn off the computer and then turn it on.

 
There have been various board/cpu (Intel and AMD) combinations in the past where an issue would be encountered such that Virtualization would be enabled in the BIOS, but not recognized by the operating system on subsequent warm reboots or waking from sleep.  Users would have to remember to do a cold boot instead of a warm reboot until updated BIOS were released.
 
dejanh et al with access to other systems,
    On those boards you have that do not force a cold boot with VT enabled, can you confirm that the Operating System recognizes that virtualization is supported after a warm reboot?
    Here's a Microsoft tool you can download to confirm, should be much easier than trying to setup a whole VM to test. link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0ee2a17f-8538-4619-8d1c-05d27e11adb2&displaylang=en
 
 
   

azamat

I strongly suspect this BIOS release has a bugged standby - I tried various RAM settings, including stock ones, and every resume results in CL=11 instead of whatever is set in BIOS, automatically or manually. Didn't anyone else notice that?

Downflashed to S22D, standby resume doesn't screw up CL, flashed back to 44, standby resume changes CL... WTH is going on here?

This needs to get fixed ASAP.  It took forever to get the darned S3 to work properly and you guys managed to break it again