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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/14 12:28:53
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oldmanian
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Good luck EVGA
Curious how you make out with that board.
On EVGA stuff, I know that I am told that single dimm per channel is supposed to improve OC headroom, but that being the case, why not layout the board like aZ270 board with all 4 dimms on one side and leave the real estate on the other side for VRM or other components?
I'm guessing to prevent crosstalk/radio frequency interference with traces from the memory to the CPU so you get higher overclocks with less chances of having issues. Asus did the same thing so I'm thinking that the CPU pins itself is setup so on the left pins are near channel A,B and the right pins are closest to channel C,D. Also the shorter the traces the less signal attenuation. I don't know if your CPU could emit radio frequency but if it does and with enough power your CPU can cook a pot of turkey which is running faster than the microwave oven at 2.45GHz. It's amazing how all these even work.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/16 13:08:18
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PietroBR
Damn,
I'm in love with X299 Micro (because of the MATX format)
But, only one M.2 slot for storage?
Would love to use Raid 0 with M.2, and not use sata cables in my next build.
If you are not planning on using SLI, you could use a PCIE adapter and put an M.2 on the slot instead. Artah
oldmanian
ScorPion359
Good luck EVGA
Curious how you make out with that board.
On EVGA stuff, I know that I am told that single dimm per channel is supposed to improve OC headroom, but that being the case, why not layout the board like aZ270 board with all 4 dimms on one side and leave the real estate on the other side for VRM or other components?
I'm guessing to prevent crosstalk/radio frequency interference with traces from the memory to the CPU so you get higher overclocks with less chances of having issues. Asus did the same thing so I'm thinking that the CPU pins itself is setup so on the left pins are near channel A,B and the right pins are closest to channel C,D. Also the shorter the traces the less signal attenuation.
I don't know if your CPU could emit radio frequency but if it does and with enough power your CPU can cook a pot of turkey which is running faster than the microwave oven at 2.45GHz. It's amazing how all these even work.
Yes, only 4 DIMMs to help optimize peak memory OC. As for the reason why they are not all on one side, whenever possible it is best to keep all memory traces the same length, it can really help in memory stability, especially with faster memory and higher channel count. The harder/faster everything is pushed the more fine tuned and precise all the engineering has to be; things become important that were barely relevant a few generations ago.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/16 23:00:28
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hello strange expensive price for EU for EVGA dark and FTWK german shop
They were coming some time ago, there was also a price tag. But, now no longer available. This strongly suggests a delay in the release and likely changes on the motherboard. I hope that the (Dark) release will not go on for months. Which is my own favorite. Best motherboard worth the wait.  Would it really be nice to get an estimate of the release and manual?
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/17 02:24:29
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cateno
hello strange expensive price for EU for EVGA dark and FTWK german shop
They were coming some time ago, there was also a price tag. But, now no longer available. This strongly suggests a delay in the release and likely changes on the motherboard. I hope that the (Dark) release will not go on for months. Which is my own favorite. Best motherboard worth the wait.
Would it really be nice to get an estimate of the release and manual?
I askd EVGA TAIWAN When X299 Dark to sell in Taiwan They said X299 Dark will be sold in Taiwan in September.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/17 04:31:38
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I askd EVGA TAIWAN When X299 Dark to sell in Taiwan
They said X299 Dark will be sold in Taiwan in September.
Thank you for the information. Probably the EU's availability is at the same time.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/17 04:48:13
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PietroBR
Damn,
I'm in love with X299 Micro (because of the MATX format)
But, only one M.2 slot for storage?
Would love to use Raid 0 with M.2, and not use sata cables in my next build.
If you are not planning on using SLI, you could use a PCIE adapter and put an M.2 on the slot instead.
Hey Dave, Thanks for the reply and suggestion. Do you know if these MB will use the VROC (Virtual Raid Over CPU) technology, like on the Asus MB? (If I'm correct, it will be controlled by the CPU / Skylake-X Gen correct?)  I couldn't find anything around here saying they will. If so, (since I don't plan to SLI), I could use the M.2 PCIE adapter, and RAID0 it directly from the adapter. I don't know if it is possible to RAID0 two m.2, one on the MB, and the other one in the adapter.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/18 02:09:04
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Sempteber is logic time, because Intel Skylake-X is launched before time. But that will not help much to Intel, maybe 2-3%. Intel's next platform will be killer. I only could say that, I think they search way to build something really special and dominate again as they done with i7-920 and i7-965 before 9 years. That was chaos, special when people success to OC i7-920 nicely. i7-950 is launched next year for almost double price but people reach his clock easy with i7-920. That was time. I think Intel is capable to repeat similar situation. They have money and knowledge and need to design new powerfull Core. Only Intel is changed, now think more about price. But to be honest price of Intel Processors compare to Intels Processors before is higher but not as price of NVIDIAs GeForce Graphic Processors. Their price for most powerfull segment is almost doubled from period of 6-7 years.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/18 06:28:45
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852vth
They were coming some time ago, there was also a price tag. But, now no longer available. This strongly suggests a delay in the release and likely changes on the motherboard. I hope that the (Dark) release will not go on for months. Which is my own favorite. Best motherboard worth the wait.
Would it really be nice to get an estimate of the release and manual?
Yea dark is the best looking x299 board hands down, would be nice to see it released soon but I'm guessing they're waiting for some 18-core cpu samples to make sure it's capable.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/18 13:32:51
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PietroBR
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PietroBR
Damn,
I'm in love with X299 Micro (because of the MATX format)
But, only one M.2 slot for storage?
Would love to use Raid 0 with M.2, and not use sata cables in my next build.
If you are not planning on using SLI, you could use a PCIE adapter and put an M.2 on the slot instead.
Hey Dave,
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
Do you know if these MB will use the VROC (Virtual Raid Over CPU) technology, like on the Asus MB?
(If I'm correct, it will be controlled by the CPU / Skylake-X Gen correct?)
I couldn't find anything around here saying they will.
If so, (since I don't plan to SLI), I could use the M.2 PCIE adapter, and RAID0 it directly from the adapter.
I don't know if it is possible to RAID0 two m.2, one on the MB, and the other one in the adapter.
VROC is supported, and it is run by the CPU through a PCIE slot, but I was not able to use it before leaving so I cannot speak as to specifics. Now if both M.2 are coming from CPU, I **THINK** a MB native slot and a M.2 run though an adapter will work in RAID together but I cannot test 100%. You cannot though if you are mixing CPU and PCH resources for the M.2 devices.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/18 17:07:10
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Yea dark is the best looking x299 board hands down, would be nice to see it released soon but I'm guessing they're waiting for some 18-core cpu samples to make sure it's capable.
There really is no reason to wait for the 18 core CPUs as they can just issue a BIOS update with new microcode when new CPUs are released. Not to mention it would really be a shame if the board didn't come out until October. My guess is they are doing more testing on these boards and want to make sure there aren't going to be any problems before they release them. Let's hope we see the boards by at least September, if not sooner.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 10:44:05
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 11:22:50
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Artah
looks like no love for EVGA Dark from EK
EVGA X299 Dark
ASUS ROG Rampage VI Apex
ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme
Shame. Ek could have made a really slick looking mono block for this. Those new apogee heirloom cpu blocks might fit the color scheme really well tho.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 12:37:19
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Anyone have an approximate price for this? Will it be over $500.00 usd?
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 15:42:59
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Anyone have an approximate price for this? Will it be over $500.00 usd?
Geez I hope not if you are talking about EVGA Dark, don't give them ideas. This board is stripped down with a few non OC essentials removed so less components, less soldering, etc.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 15:54:31
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Anyone have an approximate price for this? Will it be over $500.00 usd?
I'm really hoping they stay with the $399 price point. More than that would be rough.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 15:56:40
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 16:42:06
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 17:06:58
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Standard 2011-V3 Socket 
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 17:15:29
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Standard 2011-V3 Socket
That is the one I will be using with my new X299 build. I think they are referring to mono blocks to cool VRM's and CPU not CPU blocks.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 17:18:50
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Standard 2011-V3 Socket
That is the one I will be using with my new X299 build. I think they are referring to mono blocks to cool VRM's and CPU not CPU blocks.
OK, I was going off the Link EVGA X299 Dark https://www.ekwb.com/conf...1_complist?mb_mbs=2629 in Post #281 We have  nateman_doo For our EVGA Motherboard Water Blocks.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 17:54:54
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 18:00:14
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 18:02:55
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2017/07/19 18:21:02
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 18:50:41
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CptSpig
"EK is not making a mono- block for the EVGA boards. I don't recall if they ever made a mono- block for a EVGA board."
Yes I do know this, I was showing you that EK did make them for EVGA at one time.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/19 20:34:18
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"EK is not making a mono- block for the EVGA boards. I don't recall if they ever made a mono- block for a EVGA board."
Yes I do know this, I was showing you that EK did make them for EVGA at one time.
Yes, I knew what you were talking about just trying to make a ha ha.....😉
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/20 04:24:49
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VROC is supported, and it is run by the CPU through a PCIE slot, but I was not able to use it before leaving so I cannot speak as to specifics. Now if both M.2 are coming from CPU, I **THINK** a MB native slot and a M.2 run though an adapter will work in RAID together but I cannot test 100%. You cannot though if you are mixing CPU and PCH resources for the M.2 devices.
Thanks for your opinion and orientation Dave. I think there are two ways to make the RAID config. 1 - Via VROC PCIE x16 adapter (for a huge array of M.2 config via PCIE. Limiting to INTEL m.2 only for boot drive) / 2 - Via Chipset, as we always did before, but, with use of any m.2 for boot drive. But this is new, I don't know if the CPU and Chipset can mix this type of info, to create an array, one from the m.2 port on the board via chipset, and the other one on the adapter via CPU. Either way, for the moment I can only wait and see the results and test when it arrives to the customers and reviewers. Since these MB hardly will come to Brazil (at least with a fair price), I will need to import these, so, it will require a lot of study for me to see what will be better. Again, thanks very much Dave.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/20 08:11:02
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bcavnaugh
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"EK is not making a mono- block for the EVGA boards. I don't recall if they ever made a mono- block for a EVGA board."
Yes I do know this, I was showing you that EK did make them for EVGA at one time.
I think those days are over when they didn't agree on things and ek stopped making blocks for EVGA GPUs (unconfirmed info). Maybe things will change someday but I was asking around my contacts and I was going to produce some blocks at least for the VRM that fits on the chokes and fets but unfortunately it's not going to be a worth while investment in time and energy unless there is tons of people that would buy them.
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Re: EVGA X299 Motherboards!
2017/07/20 08:28:47
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I think those days are over when they didn't agree on things and ek stopped making blocks for EVGA GPUs (unconfirmed info). Maybe things will change someday but I was asking around my contacts and I was going to produce some blocks at least for the VRM that fits on the chokes and fets but unfortunately it's not going to be a worth while investment in time and energy unless there is tons of people that would buy them.
EK makes blocks for most EVGA gpu's, but I don't think they make them for the motherboards.
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