bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 14:52:43
(permalink)
Crimsonghost99 I bought a tub of Kingpin’s grease shortly after buying the KPE. Will let you guys know what I think of it as I’m out of Kryonaut. Not that I will load mine up anywhere near what you guys will.
|
sparetimepc
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2413
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/11/13 09:24:09
- Location: Altona, IL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 15:38:39
(permalink)
I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
post edited by dwexpress - 2019/06/03 15:56:20
|
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 3567
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
- Location: Orange County, California
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 15:44:00
(permalink)
dwexpress
johnksss
dwexpress So is anyone going to upload photos of the GPU with Vaseline applied, I would like to see
Yes, I'll take some when I do mine in a few hours. need to go get my new headlights and grill and drop them off at paint.
I have never had issues with condensation before but with a chiller I can surely see it happening
Yep, using a chiller. Just redid all the insulation on the tubing Zeddivile I use original formula original manufacturer. Wondering if system would run cooler if I used the Vic's vapor rub edition? lulz. Good ol original vasoline FTW.r Seriously please no one try Vapor rub. That is just a silly thought. Wifey walks in. "Why does your bench smell like eucalyptus ?" "That's because its spa day for the KPE"
I see you got jokes! :D Go ahead and test it on an inconspicuous corner and let us know what happens. :D dwexpress
Zeddivile I use original formula original manufacturer. Wondering if system would run cooler if I used the Vic's vapor rub edition? lulz. Good ol original vasoline FTW.r Seriously please no one try Vapor rub. That is just a silly thought.
Yeah the Vic's vapor rub probably better yet, break up the congestion and let that video card breath
bahaha! bcavnaugh
johnksss Because vaso stands for Vaseline and last i checked there was only one Vaseline company. Petroleum jelly is made by many. Thanks. I will enjoy my card.
vaso Is what my Wife used that name for her Feminine Gel or vaso gel. I must be to old vaso stands for But I do know what Brasso is. I guess I can see how well this works NIVEA Gel vaso speed 6 All the joking aside I did not know that vaso stands for Vaseline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaseline https://www.vaseline.com/us/en/search.html?q=vaso
Well now, that explains alot! :D Nothing personal, but...ummm... I'm not about to be using any of those other products any time soon. I can just see it now. I'm on stage prepping my board and the camera zooms in and there goes a **** moment as everyone comes over to start making jokes and memes. :D Seriously though... Vaso generally falls under overclocking and prep work for anything going under cold or extreme cold as water does not stick. It's easy to coat a board or card and fairly easy to clean up after. If you have the right stripper (so to speak) to dissolve the vaso for rma. Someone said something about voiding a warranty. This is actually helping you keep your warranty intact. One could also use different versions of conformal, but now that is a bit harder to clean as it runs into hard to clean spots. there are some other mixed chemicals that also work. One could use liquid tape as well, but vaso can be messy, but far better than most others. (personal opinion only)
MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition HWBOT-PROFILE
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 15:58:36
(permalink)
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
|
Crimsonghost99
New Member
- Total Posts : 95
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/03/18 00:14:45
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:02:15
(permalink)
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Yes please! I really don’t want to open my box until install but if there are already QC issues.........
|
sparetimepc
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2413
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/11/13 09:24:09
- Location: Altona, IL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:05:41
(permalink)
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
This looks unusable. So Sad to see this from EVGA.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/06/03 17:14:34
Attached Image(s)
|
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 3567
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
- Location: Orange County, California
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:23:36
(permalink)
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! How does the screw head look?
MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition HWBOT-PROFILE
|
onMute
New Member
- Total Posts : 84
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/03/12 06:19:41
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:24:09
(permalink)
That’s disappointing. Bcav, how does your’s look?
|
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 3567
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
- Location: Orange County, California
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:25:38
(permalink)
bcavnaugh
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
This looked unusable. So Sad to see this from EVGA.
It's still usable as the main block is on the other side.
MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition HWBOT-PROFILE
|
sparetimepc
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2413
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/11/13 09:24:09
- Location: Altona, IL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:27:17
(permalink)
johnksss
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! How does the screw head look?
Screw head seems fine, just a bad drilling and threading it looks to me like, the other screw that holds on the OLED is also extremely loose, i don't even have an allen wrench so small to fit these things.
|
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 3567
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
- Location: Orange County, California
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 3
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:40:36
(permalink)
dwexpress
johnksss
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! How does the screw head look?
Screw head seems fine, just a bad drilling and threading it looks to me like, the other screw that holds on the OLED is also extremely loose, i don't even have an allen wrench so small to fit these things.
Okay, was curious if they man handled it while tightening it. Also the screws that go into the block are pretty damn small as well. One needs to be careful not to strip or break one....
MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition HWBOT-PROFILE
|
sparetimepc
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2413
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/11/13 09:24:09
- Location: Altona, IL
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 27
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:45:56
(permalink)
johnksss
dwexpress
johnksss
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
dwexpress
bcavnaugh
dwexpress I got my hydro copper and just opened it and its got a corner of the block where one of the screws goes to hold on the OLED broken so the screw falls out. The other screw is totally loose as well.
Photos..... So we know what to look for.
Here ya go. Guess i'll get in touch with evga about it already.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that! How does the screw head look?
Screw head seems fine, just a bad drilling and threading it looks to me like, the other screw that holds on the OLED is also extremely loose, i don't even have an allen wrench so small to fit these things.
Okay, was curious if they man handled it while tightening it. Also the screws that go into the block are pretty damn small as well. One needs to be careful not to strip or break one....
Yeah i suppose a person could try and put a longer screw in or retap and thread the hole but shouldn't have to even be thinking of it.
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 16:50:56
(permalink)
That is unfortunate. Let’s hope this is not indicative of a wider reaching q/a issue. I honestly don’t know how businesses are successful with Chinese manufacturing. But many are... I’ve tried it a few times and it always ends up in good initial quality acceptable tolerances and as the tooling wears tolerances go out the window. Not to mention the running of your spec’d and patented product design manufacturing process at night for counterfeiters. I guess this why compartmentalizations of manufacturing and internal assembly is a thing... And it probably helps to have a physical presence in the same hemisphere. Bah humbug In other news. I ordered one of the 2019 gpu pots from Kingpin cooling. Excited to get her on the KPE bench
post edited by Zeddivile - 2019/06/03 17:01:09
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 17:15:26
(permalink)
onMute That’s disappointing. Bcav, how does your’s look?
I Have to wait till Wednesday to know. If mine looks the same it will be returned to EVGA. $350+$16+$17 ($383) is no laughing matter.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/06/03 17:24:50
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 18:43:49
(permalink)
and its looking systemic... how disappointing and to think I almost filmed the unboxing... This looks like a materials issue not an assembly issue...
post edited by Zeddivile - 2019/06/03 18:47:16
Attached Image(s)
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
HawkOculus
iCX Member
- Total Posts : 456
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2019/04/10 10:50:51
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 1
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 18:47:01
(permalink)
Zeddivile and its looking systemic... how disappointing and to think I almost filmed the unboxing...
What is wrong with the screw exactly? I can’t tell. Regardless, this is totally unacceptable.
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 18:51:04
(permalink)
HawkOculus
Zeddivile and its looking systemic... how disappointing and to think I almost filmed the unboxing...
What is wrong with the screw exactly? I can’t tell.
Regardless, this is totally unacceptable.
The metal bracket swings around and is not connected to the acrylic and screw appears to have blown out and chipped a piece of acrylic where the screw should set... So whats the count at so far 3?
post edited by Zeddivile - 2019/06/03 18:57:22
Attached Image(s)
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
GTXJackBauer
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10333
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/04/19 22:23:25
- Location: (EVGA Discount) Associate Code : LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 48
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:02:24
(permalink)
This is why I hate threaded acrylic and only stick with acetal for thread related of things.
Use this Associate Code at your checkouts or follow these instructions for Up to 10% OFF on all your EVGA purchases: LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:18:48
(permalink)
Cracked Acrylic/Acetyl makes the Water Block Useless. Cracked Acrylic/Acetyl Creeps no different than a crack on your Windshield.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/06/03 19:22:07
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:20:46
(permalink)
TBH its not the only $300+ DOA brick i've ever purchased but for w/e reason this particular brick has my boxers in a bunch. Really annoying. I've never received a broken GPU block before acrylic or acetyl. IDK but I should probably listen to my conscience on this one and take some deep breaths and "fo get a bout it." This makes me want to eat an ice cream sandwich and by sandwich I mean the entire box.
post edited by Zeddivile - 2019/06/03 19:29:51
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:23:06
(permalink)
Zeddivile TBH its not the only $300+ DOA brick i've ever purchased but for w/e reason this particular brick has my boxers in a bunch. Really annoying. I've never received a broken GPU block before acrylic or acetyl. IDK but I should probably listen to my conscience on this one and take some deep breaths and "fo get a bout it." This makes me want to eat an ice cream sandwich and by sandwich I mean the entire box.
Same Here Also I just dealt with an $1800 DOA Chiller.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/06/03 19:25:08
|
GTXJackBauer
Omnipotent Enthusiast
- Total Posts : 10333
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/04/19 22:23:25
- Location: (EVGA Discount) Associate Code : LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 48
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:25:16
(permalink)
Zeddivile TBH its not the only $300+ DOA brick i've ever purchased but for w/e reason this particular brick has my boxers in a bunch. Really annoying. I've never received a broken GPU block before acrylic or acetyl. IDK but I should probably listen to my conscience on this one and take some deep breaths and "fo get a bout it."
It's not a frequent thing so I would RMA and....
Use this Associate Code at your checkouts or follow these instructions for Up to 10% OFF on all your EVGA purchases: LMD3DNZM9LGK8GJ
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:29:08
(permalink)
Looking like EVGA should Pull the Stock to at least replace the Blocks that are now in the hands of the End Users.
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:30:44
(permalink)
Well they require a ticket or some other nonsense in order fire off an RMA. Email sent. Back to the important topic " Boxers in a bunch" TBH they are boxer briefs not boxers "meUndies" to be specific. So funny story I asked my wife for meUndies for Christmas 3 years in a row. Every year get some other brand in my stocking. Finally year 4 just before Christmas I ask wify why not the brand "meUndies?" "I have asked repeatedly for "meUndies"!" she looked at me with a confused look on her face and was like "oh I thought you just asking for underwear in a really weird way. Like in a pirate voice"
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:35:56
(permalink)
Zeddivile Well they require a ticket or some other nonsense in order fire off an RMA. Email sent. Back to the important topic " Boxers in a bunch" TBH they are boxer briefs not boxers "meUndies" to be specific. So funny story I asked my wife for meUndies for Christmas 3 years in a row. Every year get some other brand in my stocking. Finally year 4 just before Christmas I ask wify why not the brand "meUndies?" "I have asked repeatedly for "meUndies"!" she looked at me with a confused look on her face and was like "oh I thought you just asking for underwear in a really weird way. Like in a pirate voice"
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:38:17
(permalink)
also polish on copper leaves something to be desired and fingerprints NOT MINE all over it. MEH CLC copper polish was orders of magnitude better
post edited by Zeddivile - 2019/06/03 19:46:38
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38516
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 19:55:32
(permalink)
Zeddivile
also polish on copper leaves something to be desired and fingerprints NOT MINE all over it. MEH CLC copper polish was orders of magnitude better
But a MUST to clean off before installing.
|
Zeddivile
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 761
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2017/09/30 11:15:15
- Location: @ the tipity top of FPS mountain
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 7
Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/03 20:10:06
(permalink)
#hulkscrews Found the chipped piece still on the screw in place on the bracket. If the screw was what broke we would like "stupid soft screws!" Followed by applying gorilla glue and moving on...
"This stuff breaks my tiny often dehydrated and carb deprived hamster brain" -2019
|