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2017/02/25 14:20:02 (permalink)
Curious as this is my second EVGA Hybrid AIO addition to my 1080 FE. They both rev randomly...and I'm not sure why.

I don't have the fan that came with it that goes on the radiator as I installed a PWM fan and attached it to my 4pin mobo so I can control it...

This is the Precision XOG graph   
 

 
Also, I have tried Manual fan control and Auto and nothing seems to fix it.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/25 15:59:40 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    I am sorry to hear that.
     
    Does the fan on the radiator rev occasionally or the fan on the card? or both?
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/25 22:21:49 (permalink)
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    Hello,
     
    I am sorry to hear that.
     
    Does the fan on the radiator rev occasionally or the fan on the card? or both?




    The fan on the radiator is an SP120 PWM High Performance that is 4pinned into the Mobo and that never changes unless I change i manually (currently at 60-70% or 15XXRPM).  
     
    The Blower Fan (the one that came with the AIO) Revvs up constantly when in games (though my GPU never goes above 59 degrees.  This fan revs even if it's set to manual via Precision X with AUTO turned off (no curve).
     
    Picture of the "setup"
     
     
    New Screenshots of some tools 
     

    http://i.imgur.com/2ngS5HG.png
     
    GPU RadFan = Aftermarket SP120 PWM High Performance (Manually Set; hooked to 4pin Mobo Header)
    CPU H115i Fan (NOT ACTUALLY H115i, it must be the top 3pin AF140 Exhaust Fan): 3Pin Max Speed uncontrollable
    No GPU Settings/Fan Settings show up on SpeedFan

    http://i.imgur.com/5DlmeyQ.png
     
     
     
     
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    H115i Water Cooler
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    I have also tried updating drivers and rolling back via DDDU
     
    post edited by Gedemer - 2017/02/25 22:43:19
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/26 19:30:13 (permalink)
    I recently installed a Hybrid Kit on my 1080 SC and replaced the stock fan with a 4 pin to the motherboard as well. I have an Asus Z170 motherboard and use their software to set the GPU radiator fan at a constant 1100 rpm since it's harder to use the PWM function on that fan based on the GPU temps, although possible with SpeedFan. At 1100 rpm my fan is inaudible over other noises from the case and only lets the GPU get up to 51C after 30 minutes in Furmark at 1440p. In Evga Precision XOC, I set the Fan speed to aggressive and it stays around 1500 rpm, which I assume is both pump and blower because of the daisy chain plug.
     
    Looking at your case picture it appears that your moving hot air from your CPU AIO toward the GPU blower fan, but the Corsair LINK software only shows one fan installed on the H115i. With the top exhaust appearing unobstructed and the back exhaust being for the GPU radiator, I would be concerned that your in a negative air pressure situation and the blower is being starved for air. I may look at moving more fans to the front for intake if possible and if necessary use push/pull since the intakes have to overcome the resistance from the CPU AIO.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/27 08:05:58 (permalink)
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    I recently installed a Hybrid Kit on my 1080 SC and replaced the stock fan with a 4 pin to the motherboard as well. I have an Asus Z170 motherboard and use their software to set the GPU radiator fan at a constant 1100 rpm since it's harder to use the PWM function on that fan based on the GPU temps, although possible with SpeedFan. At 1100 rpm my fan is inaudible over other noises from the case and only lets the GPU get up to 51C after 30 minutes in Furmark at 1440p. In Evga Precision XOC, I set the Fan speed to aggressive and it stays around 1500 rpm, which I assume is both pump and blower because of the daisy chain plug.
     
    Looking at your case picture it appears that your moving hot air from your CPU AIO toward the GPU blower fan, but the Corsair LINK software only shows one fan installed on the H115i. With the top exhaust appearing unobstructed and the back exhaust being for the GPU radiator, I would be concerned that your in a negative air pressure situation and the blower is being starved for air. I may look at moving more fans to the front for intake if possible and if necessary use push/pull since the intakes have to overcome the resistance from the CPU AIO.




    I see what ya mean, but unfortunately, I cannot add fans to the front H115i unless I take out the cable management bar, which I would not like to do.
     
    I will be adding a push/pull config on the back radiator, but alas, this will not help get more air flow in.  
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/27 14:41:58 (permalink)
    Updating new graphs as I tried MSi Afterburner and it seems to still do it, though maybe somewhat less
     

    http://imgur.com/ibfidQu
     

    http://imgur.com/3PXVlPG
     
     
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/27 18:36:40 (permalink)
    Is it possible to put the CPU AIO fans in the pull configuration then as they may pull more air to the GPU? Also, please confirm there are two fans on the h115 rather than only one as shown in the Corsair LINK picture. You may consider setting the CPU AIO fans to a set RPM higher than you'd normally use just to get more airflow. I have two 140s and a 200 as intake without any obstruction and my H110i on the top as exhaust with two 140s pushing air out as well as push/pull on the hybrid 1080 aio gpu cooler.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/02/28 22:19:41 (permalink)
    I'd want to see the inside of the case (also which case is it)without the side panel on. It's hard to see what's going on with that H115i due to the reflection.  I don't see any fans on the H115i, which I know can't be.  I'm also concerned with the loop in the GPU radiators pipes.  I think a better pic would help.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 07:29:48 (permalink)
    Nikeel
    Is it possible to put the CPU AIO fans in the pull configuration then as they may pull more air to the GPU? Also, please confirm there are two fans on the h115 rather than only one as shown in the Corsair LINK picture. You may consider setting the CPU AIO fans to a set RPM higher than you'd normally use just to get more airflow. I have two 140s and a 200 as intake without any obstruction and my H110i on the top as exhaust with two 140s pushing air out as well as push/pull on the hybrid 1080 aio gpu cooler.




    Yea they are on the front of the case doing a push; I would love to do a push/pull but without taking out the Cable Management bar as shown in the pictures, that is not possible.  
     
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    post edited by Gedemer - 2017/03/02 07:38:46
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 07:30:57 (permalink)
    zalster
    I'd want to see the inside of the case (also which case is it)without the side panel on. It's hard to see what's going on with that H115i due to the reflection.  I don't see any fans on the H115i, which I know can't be.  I'm also concerned with the loop in the GPU radiators pipes.  I think a better pic would help.




    The case is a NZXT S340 Elite.  pLease see post above this for better picture/s.  I will set the CPU AIO higher, though usually when I play games they kick in due to my Custom curve.
     
    I also tried to do a different curve setup with the GPU AIO tubes, but I couldn't get anything better than that.  Here is the most Up-to-Date picture:
     

    http://imgur.com/L0vFrLO
     

    http://imgur.com/1KcFnww
     

    http://imgur.com/jvczdGO
     

    http://imgur.com/k6Aq08G
     
    post edited by Gedemer - 2017/03/02 07:37:53
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 10:25:17 (permalink)
    #1 Remove GPU fan shroud and make sure the GPU fan cable is fully seated and secure to the GPU PCB fan header.
     
    #2 Make sure the card is fully seated to the MB. Make sure the PCI-E power cables are fully seated and secure at the PSU side & GPU side.
     
    #3 Uninstall all monitoring software. (Precision, Afterburner, Speedfan, HWMonitor, etc.)
     
    #4 Perform a clean installation of the most recent video drivers:
    • Uninstall Precision X/MSI Afterburner if installed, make sure to select "no" to saving profiles if asked.  Reboot the PC now if you had to uninstall PX or Afterburner.
    • Use DDU (Display driver uninstaller) in safe mode to clean out all your nvidia drivers. Use the clean and restart (highly recommended) option.
    • Download & save the most recent graphics driver to your desktop. You can find the most recent graphics driver here.
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    • Select custom advanced install, under custom installation options uncheck all options except graphics driver & physx system software, if you have a 3D capable monitor and would like to use 3D at some point please select both 3D options, check mark perform clean install, then click next to install the driver, reboot when asked.
    If you're still having problems after performing steps 1-4 RMA the card as the fan controller on the GPU has a problem. 
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 11:14:40 (permalink)
    Thanks Gedemer, 
     
    Sorry it took so long. Sajin gave good advice
     
    Here's my 2 cents.
     
    OK I see it now.  2 140s on the H115i.  The 1080 has a 120 on its radiator.  
     
    I don't think the revving is related to hot air coming in from it (280 Radiator). The only way to know for sure would be to move the 280 radiator out of the case and then use some fan connection extenders to keep the fans moving then start a game and see if the fan on the GPU revv again. I'd be willing to bet it does.  (have I ever done this, yes..closet full of extensions,cables etc...)
     
    My guess it's the fan on the GPU itself is having issues.   
     
     

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 13:04:06 (permalink)
    If I remember correctly, sometime last year many people reported having fan fluctuations on the FE edition of the 1080. The article I saw did not mention a solution, but I would recommend looking into it.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 13:39:16 (permalink)
    With Afterburner, increase hysteresis to a larger number like 3 should work. 
     
    This will make the fan rpm stay put until 3C temp change is registered and a setting of 5 would make the fan rpm stay constant until a 5C temp change

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 14:47:01 (permalink)
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    #1 Remove GPU fan shroud and make sure the GPU fan cable is fully seated and secure to the GPU PCB fan header.

    #2 Make sure the card is fully seated to the MB. Make sure the PCI-E power cables are fully seated and secure at the PSU side & GPU side.

    #3 Uninstall all monitoring software. (Precision, Afterburner, Speedfan, HWMonitor, etc.)

    #4 Perform a clean installation of the most recent video drivers:
    • Uninstall Precision X/MSI Afterburner if installed, make sure to select "no" to saving profiles if asked.  Reboot the PC now if you had to uninstall PX or Afterburner.
    • Use DDU (Display driver uninstaller) in safe mode to clean out all your nvidia drivers. Use the clean and restart (highly recommended) option.
    • Download & save the most recent graphics driver to your desktop. You can find the most recent graphics driver here.
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    • Select custom advanced install, under custom installation options uncheck all options except graphics driver & physx system software, if you have a 3D capable monitor and would like to use 3D at some point please select both 3D options, check mark perform clean install, then click next to install the driver, reboot when asked.
    If you're still having problems after performing steps 1-4 RMA the card as the fan controller on the GPU has a problem. 


    i will give this a try this weekend; It never used to do with the stock GPU Shroud on, so if the GPU is the issue itself, Something must have happened when installing it (wore a shock protector) and I'm not sure Nvidia would RMA it if I took it apart x.x
     
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 15:54:36 (permalink)
    Question, I remember reading that the thermal pads were already installed even though the instructions say to apply them. Would a bad thermal pad (it possibly missing one, or maybe one of the original ones from the normal shroud got pushed into the wrong place) be the issue?

    I really don't want to take the cooler off since I don't have any TIM but if I just check the cords and not the thermal pads I won't have to remove the cooler.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 16:24:22 (permalink)
    I doubt the Thermal pads are the issue. The pads were issued when it was thought there was an overheating issue.  Since then, the consensus was a bad shipment of parts made their way into the GPUs that caught fire. However, this did lead to the building of the iCX models.  I debated placing the thermal pads myself when I converted some 1070s a few months ago.  I don't think they really make that much difference on a hybrid.  If you used EVGA hybrid kit, from what I remember from these forums, all you have to do is convert the card back to it's original form and EVGA will honor the warranty. (MODS please correct me if I'm wrong)

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/02 16:36:23 (permalink)
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    I doubt the Thermal pads are the issue. The pads were issued when it was thought there was an overheating issue.  Since then, the consensus was a bad shipment of parts made their way into the GPUs that caught fire. However, this did lead to the building of the iCX models.  I debated placing the thermal pads myself when I converted some 1070s a few months ago.  I don't think they really make that much difference on a hybrid.  If you used EVGA hybrid kit, from what I remember from these forums, all you have to do is convert the card back to it's original form and EVGA will honor the warranty. (MODS please correct me if I'm wrong)




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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/04 20:53:19 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/04 22:26:03 (permalink)
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    Bumping threads is not allowed. Your thread will get replies when members have more answers. Your other option is to call Evga regarding the Hybrid Cooler.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/11 14:01:01 (permalink)
    I have been having the same exact issue with my GTX 1080 SC. I've tried both Precision OCX and MSI afterburner with the same results. The fan tachometer shows the fan just continuously throttling up and down but I'm not actually hearing the fan throttling at all. I know that there was a driver bug when the 1080 came out that was causing this kind of thing to happen but that was supposedly fixed a long time ago. I've gone through the steps outlined above, uninstall using DDU etc, but still having the issue. Still seems like a software and not hardware issue.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/14 15:11:06 (permalink)
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    I have been having the same exact issue with my GTX 1080 SC. I've tried both Precision OCX and MSI afterburner with the same results. The fan tachometer shows the fan just continuously throttling up and down but I'm not actually hearing the fan throttling at all. I know that there was a driver bug when the 1080 came out that was causing this kind of thing to happen but that was supposedly fixed a long time ago. I've gone through the steps outlined above, uninstall using DDU etc, but still having the issue. Still seems like a software and not hardware issue.




    Mine still does it, haven't found a solution.  Like you stated it has to be a software issue as it does it when my GPU usage goes up to 100% even if there is no increase in temperature.
     
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/14 19:02:54 (permalink)
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    I have been having the same exact issue with my GTX 1080 SC. I've tried both Precision OCX and MSI afterburner with the same results. The fan tachometer shows the fan just continuously throttling up and down but I'm not actually hearing the fan throttling at all. I know that there was a driver bug when the 1080 came out that was causing this kind of thing to happen but that was supposedly fixed a long time ago. I've gone through the steps outlined above, uninstall using DDU etc, but still having the issue. Still seems like a software and not hardware issue.




    Mine still does it, haven't found a solution.  Like you stated it has to be a software issue as it does it when my GPU usage goes up to 100% even if there is no increase in temperature.
     
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    weird my hybrid card stays pretty constant. it looks like a weird software reading for you as your min is 0 but your max is 100000 which is not possible
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/14 20:09:21 (permalink)



    Speed fan, Corsair Link, Precision, and Afterburner all at the same time?  You are asking for trouble.  Have you tried uninstalling all of those programs and then doing the clean driver install Sajin recommended?
     
    It seems to me quite plausible that the combination of your software could be creating a conflict.  Try with NONE of those programs installed, do a clean driver reinstall, and use your ear to hear if the fan is still fluctuating.

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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/15 16:24:04 (permalink)
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    Speed fan, Corsair Link, Precision, and Afterburner all at the same time?  You are asking for trouble.  Have you tried uninstalling all of those programs and then doing the clean driver install Sajin recommended?
     
    It seems to me quite plausible that the combination of your software could be creating a conflict.  Try with NONE of those programs installed, do a clean driver reinstall, and use your ear to hear if the fan is still fluctuating.


    The revving is not quiet, it's largely audible from a room away.
     
    Also, none of these programs together should cause issues.  SpeedFan controls the Case Fans + GPU Radiator Fan, Corsair Link controls the CPU and Assigned Radiator, and Precision X which I now use MSi controls the GPU Blower VRAM Fan.
     
    I will try though.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/15 20:27:05 (permalink)
    Still didn't work.
     
    Guess I'll check fan connections tomorrow.  I have a feeling it's something to do with the Hybrid Cooler and it obviously being faulty...the revving is really pissing me off.
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/16 16:39:52 (permalink)
    Still does it after deleting software and clean installing drivers.  Checked connections today to no avail.  Next I will check the card itself by getting a new 1080
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    Gedemer
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/21 20:48:31 (permalink)
    Fixed; 
     
    Faulty Fan Controller.  A new card fixed it.  THANKS ALL!
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    Sajin
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    Re: EVGA Hybrid Water Cooler on 1080 FE (Revving Fan) 2017/03/21 21:00:26 (permalink)
    Gedemer
    Fixed; 
     
    Faulty Fan Controller.  A new card fixed it.  THANKS ALL!



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