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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 11:21:09 (permalink)
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While I totally agree that this situation is frustrating, I think the queuing system that EVGA has implemented is far better than what other retailers have done (next to nothing). EVGA is getting their cards to actual end users and not scalpers, unlike other retailers. I am with you here and would like to pick-up a 3080 HC immediately, it's the last component I need to start and finish my build, but unfortunately we all get to wait.

Yeah you are right, their system is definately the best.  Amazon is the one I am most annoyed with, even non 30 series cars prices have almost doubled as people take advantage of the situation.
 
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The fact that the Hydrocopper GPUs were delayed solely due to the waterblock itself needing ‘updating’ may signal that the standalone waterblocks won’t be available for sale until the current batches of Hydrocopper GPUs are sold off.
Also, for myself, I wanted to play cyberpunk with a Hydrocopper this Christmas season. This gamer is sad.

Ah was not aware of that, thanks for the info!
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 11:55:01 (permalink)
I have a dumb question about lighting control on the 3090 Hybrid XC3. The "EVGA HYBRID" logo RBG is by default set to rainbow vomit. Using EVGA PRECISION X1, I can't seem to control any of the LED Color/Pattern like I could on the card I was previously running, EVGA GTX 1080 FTW. Anyone have any idea how to change the color, or range of colors it cycles through on the logo?
 
Thanks all, this thread has been super helpful.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:14:04 (permalink)
When will these cards start hitting Canadian retailers? I checked Canada Computers and Memory Express - still don't list the new hydro versions yet.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:40:15 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how I’m looking for this 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid if I got the email at 10:16 (16 minutes after official launch) here in Canada. 

First time EVGA buyer so not sure how these systems work! Thanks in advance

 
The last report I have for the 3988 queue is 9:16:28 am on 12/10.  Sounds like you are a few seconds away.  You will likely be in the next drop.  Please make sure you have whitelisted ordernotify@evga.com in your email client to avoid the spam filter.  And then keep an eye out next week.  Best of luck!
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:42:50 (permalink)
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When will these cards start hitting Canadian retailers? I checked Canada Computers and Memory Express - still don't list the new hydro versions yet.



The Hydro Coppers haven't launched yet.  They've been delayed likely into Q1 of 2021.  Not sure when the Hybrids will make it to Canada.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:44:20 (permalink)
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Wow something is definitely weird with my card it won't go above 400...even with power limit increased...
What settings you running on kombuster?



(GL) MSI-01, full screen, 1440p, benchmarking mode.
 
Does anybody know if the default/stock bios that Jacob posted in the FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA thread is also the stock/default for the hybrid as well? Wanted to give a try on a different bios but didn't want to lose the factory one.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:46:02 (permalink)
And for those curious, I pulled a fan off the radiator and looked at the back and the sticker says "PLA12025S12L-1" for the model. Apparently a "POWERLOGIC" brand, 0.65A sleeve bearing. Can't find much on the google about it however. Probably a custom run for EVGA.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:48:53 (permalink)
Thanks so much man! Appreciate the reply. Guys like you are what makes these forums top shelf 🙏🏻
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 12:58:22 (permalink)
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And for those curious, I pulled a fan off the radiator and looked at the back and the sticker says "PLA12025S12L-1" for the model. Apparently a "POWERLOGIC" brand, 0.65A sleeve bearing. Can't find much on the google about it however. Probably a custom run for EVGA.


Thank you! Great to know, let’s hope Jacob releases them for sale separately!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 13:46:28 (permalink)
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I saw these questions earlier in this thread, but I don't recall if there was an answer determined or not.  Hoping someone can help answer these so I can make a good informed decision on whether I should go with a Hybrid card or regular!
 
  1. First, how long are the tubes from the video card to the radiator?  (I apologize if this has been answered before)
  2. Second, I'm also trying to fit a Hybrid EVGA card into a Lian Li 011XL and mounting the radiator on the side, hoses down and am wondering if someone has gotten one of the Hybrid cards and tested fitment of it in this case specifically.
Thanks!


I also have this question




There was a question or two about this a few days ago in this thread (I cannot remember which day, but definitely this week).  I will send to each of you the photos my buddy sent me but ask that you not forward them on or share them broadly -- I didn't ask permission to share them or explain why I wanted them and he is now unavailable to check in with.  The context for the photos is that I helped him install the rad into his O11 XL in a push-pull format, hoses down, with the second set of fans behind the "shroud" (with the hornet's nest of wires).  Just give me a minute or two to find the photos again and I will PM them to you both. 
 
I do not have exact measurements of the hoses, but I recall that for the Kingpin's hoses, Jacob said they were 400mm in length.  




That was me who asked this two days ago. We're you able to install the rad behind the side in that extra space for radiators? Curious to see how its installed if you could forward that to me as well I'd appreciate it
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 13:50:36 (permalink)
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Got a 3080 XC3 hybrid and I notice it emits a buzzing noise on startup and it can go away and come back randomly. It seems to be coming from the actual card/shroud itself not the pump or rad fans. I have attached a youtube video with the noise while the PC is idle. Any idea what this could be? 
 



That is almost certainly pump noise, or "coil whine" - neither of which you should be particularly concerned about, unless it gets worse.  If it's happening at idle, it's most likely the pump on the GPU block.
 
For those asking exact numbers, I'll shell out that information direct once I get mine on Wednesday, and I'll be sure to give you "actually available" tube length, i.e. how long the tubing is from where it exits the GPU to where it connects the radiator (as I'm sure the 400mm number is actually from where it connects the pump, to the radiator, which means you're "losing" about 60mm in length)

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 13:57:03 (permalink)
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I saw these questions earlier in this thread, but I don't recall if there was an answer determined or not.  Hoping someone can help answer these so I can make a good informed decision on whether I should go with a Hybrid card or regular!
 
  1. First, how long are the tubes from the video card to the radiator?  (I apologize if this has been answered before)
  2. Second, I'm also trying to fit a Hybrid EVGA card into a Lian Li 011XL and mounting the radiator on the side, hoses down and am wondering if someone has gotten one of the Hybrid cards and tested fitment of it in this case specifically.
Thanks!


I also have this question




There was a question or two about this a few days ago in this thread (I cannot remember which day, but definitely this week).  I will send to each of you the photos my buddy sent me but ask that you not forward them on or share them broadly -- I didn't ask permission to share them or explain why I wanted them and he is now unavailable to check in with.  The context for the photos is that I helped him install the rad into his O11 XL in a push-pull format, hoses down, with the second set of fans behind the "shroud" (with the hornet's nest of wires).  Just give me a minute or two to find the photos again and I will PM them to you both. 
 
I do not have exact measurements of the hoses, but I recall that for the Kingpin's hoses, Jacob said they were 400mm in length.  




That was me who asked this two days ago. We're you able to install the rad behind the side in that extra space for radiators? Curious to see how its installed if you could forward that to me as well I'd appreciate it


Check out the pictures in the link in the first post of this thread; it all made sense to me after seeing how they installed the radiator on the side of the 011XL.
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-kit-unboxing-and-installation-gallery-m3174307.aspx

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 14:30:04 (permalink)
I couldn't even load site to spot notify button on 9:00 PT.....
For now there is not possible to even see the button in 3080 products.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 14:33:53 (permalink)
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That was me who asked this two days ago. We're you able to install the rad behind the side in that extra space for radiators? Curious to see how its installed if you could forward that to me as well I'd appreciate it



No, for my buddy's build, we put the fans behind the O11 XL shroud, but kept the rad on the "front" side (along with a second set of pull fans).  The photos from the link in the post above...looks better than what we did.  

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 14:48:58 (permalink)
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Got a 3080 XC3 hybrid and I notice it emits a buzzing noise on startup and it can go away and come back randomly. It seems to be coming from the actual card/shroud itself not the pump or rad fans. I have attached a youtube video with the noise while the PC is idle. Any idea what this could be? 
 



That is almost certainly pump noise, or "coil whine" - neither of which you should be particularly concerned about, unless it gets worse.  If it's happening at idle, it's most likely the pump on the GPU block.
 



I think it is the pump on the GPU.  The sounds isn't a whine like a lot of other people have described about the 2000 series cards.  Its more grindy like a mechanical hard drive or old school printer.  Either way it shouldn't be that loud or happening at idle.  I took a better video where you can really hear it.  Again this is at idle.
 
......youtu.be/lVoiTfvt92Q
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 15:02:56 (permalink)
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I think it is the pump on the GPU.  The sounds isn't a whine like a lot of other people have described about the 2000 series cards.  Its more grindy like a mechanical hard drive or old school printer.  Either way it shouldn't be that loud or happening at idle.  I took a better video where you can really hear it.  Again this is at idle.
 
......youtu.be/lVoiTfvt92Q




Just posted a suggestion in your thread about the problem, I would recommend trying that - after listening to the sound on your video though, I can say that sounds like an issue indeed, are the temperatures on the card okay or higher than you would expect?  Because to me, that sounds like the pump is having serious issues.  Not at all "normal" pump sounds.
 
If the solution I suggested (trying to work out any possible bubbles) does not have any effect on the noise, I would definitely contact eVGA support, given that your card/radiator are mounted as they should be, that's not the issue, and it would probably be safer to RMA the card than risk the pump dying later (though you would of course be able to RMA it then since they're under warranty for at least 3 years by default).
 
Make sure you register the card if you haven't already (registration is not automatic, even if you purchased directly from eVGA, the invoice upload is also not automatic even if purchased from eVGA, and can be found on your completed orders page), and you can use a "rewards" code from someone here on the forums while registering it, not sure what sorta rewards we get from that though.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 15:18:55 (permalink)
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No ETA for the Hydrocopper.

Jacob via twitter responded ‘not likely’ to a question about whether or not we will have a drop before Christmas.

Looking at January or February of next year.


sad to hear. Would hate to be late to the queue and getting pointless notifications on twitter every day hoping one of them will be a queue announcement is not helping.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 15:47:57 (permalink)
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That was me who asked this two days ago. We're you able to install the rad behind the side in that extra space for radiators? Curious to see how its installed if you could forward that to me as well I'd appreciate it



No, for my buddy's build, we put the fans behind the O11 XL shroud, but kept the rad on the "front" side (along with a second set of pull fans).  The photos from the link in the post above...looks better than what we did.  




Similar to what I ended up doing in my 011 dynamic (non-XL). Setup as exhaust with a pair of SL120s on the inside (for the RGB), then the rad, then the case wall, and then the EVGA fans.
 
It DOES look like there's enough room for the rad and fans on the outside of the case wall, but with the rad on the inside, it bumps the SL120 in enough to see some more RGB goodness from the front of the case :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 15:48:54 (permalink)
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Just posted a suggestion in your thread about the problem, I would recommend trying that - after listening to the sound on your video though, I can say that sounds like an issue indeed, are the temperatures on the card okay or higher than you would expect?  Because to me, that sounds like the pump is having serious issues.  Not at all "normal" pump sounds.
 
If the solution I suggested (trying to work out any possible bubbles) does not have any effect on the noise, I would definitely contact eVGA support, given that your card/radiator are mounted as they should be, that's not the issue, and it would probably be safer to RMA the card than risk the pump dying later (though you would of course be able to RMA it then since they're under warranty for at least 3 years by default).
 
Make sure you register the card if you haven't already (registration is not automatic, even if you purchased directly from eVGA, the invoice upload is also not automatic even if purchased from eVGA, and can be found on your completed orders page), and you can use a "rewards" code from someone here on the forums while registering it, not sure what sorta rewards we get from that though.
 
Edit: apparently when you use someone's rewards code while registering, it nets them 2 eVGA Bucks




Thanks for your response and suggestions. I did try jiggling/shaking so I will see if that has any effect over time.  Temps look like 34 -35 idle, 60-61 under heavy load.  I had already registered my product and already sent a ticket into support.  Just waiting to hear back.  I did purchase directly from EVGA on Thursday so I know I have time to RMA if needed.  Hopefully as more people get Hybrids, we can see if this is an issue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 16:49:36 (permalink)
Does anyone know why are there are basically no video reviews of the FTW3 Hybrid or XC3 hybrid?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 16:54:08 (permalink)
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Thanks for your response and suggestions. I did try jiggling/shaking so I will see if that has any effect over time.  Temps look like 34 -35 idle, 60-61 under heavy load.  I had already registered my product and already sent a ticket into support.  Just waiting to hear back.  I did purchase directly from EVGA on Thursday so I know I have time to RMA if needed.  Hopefully as more people get Hybrids, we can see if this is an issue.



That's very "warm" for a Hybrid unless your ambient temps are quite warm - I only see 26-30C idle & 58-68C load depending on what I'm playing/running on mine & if I'm undervolted or not & at what settings, and my current 3080 is air-cooled.  Hopefully eVGA lets you RMA the card & you get one that doesn't have these issues.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 17:47:47 (permalink)
Received my 3090 XC3 Hybrid a few days ago.  Very disappointed that power is capped at 104% in Afterburner.
 
Being a Hybrid card, surely the cooling is far superior to that of the air cooled version of the XC3, so why limit the power so much?  Is there an updated BIOS floating around for the XC3 Hybrid?
 
I plan to use the Step-Up program to get the Copper 3090, but by the time it comes out, a 3080Ti Copper might be right around the corner.
 
If I instead return this, how strict is EVGA about the 15% restock fee?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 17:57:00 (permalink)
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Received my 3090 XC3 Hybrid a few days ago.  Very disappointed that power is capped at 104% in Afterburner.
 
Being a Hybrid card, surely the cooling is far superior to that of the air cooled version of the XC3, so why limit the power so much?  Is there an updated BIOS floating around for the XC3 Hybrid?
 
I plan to use the Step-Up program to get the Copper 3090, but by the time it comes out, a 3080Ti Copper might be right around the corner.
 
If I instead return this, how strict is EVGA about the 15% restock fee?




Hydrocoppers are never in Step Up queue, wouldn't expect them to be this time either.  
 
The 104 Power Limit is partly because it only has 2 8-pins, you should be able to get a higher power limit BIOS at some point, that's the one that isn't available yet (that should unlock the highest power limit available safely for that card's amount of power inputs).
 
Keep in mind, the technical wattage limit should be 375W on that card given what it has.  Keeping it cooler has little to do with how much power the card can safely draw - and it's also partly NVidia handicapping all their cards so that there's room to improve for the Ti/Super-revisions that are coming.
 
If you wanted a better OCing/higher power limit experience you definitely should've held on for a FTW3 Hybrid (or the Kingpin if you wanna go full bonkers).

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 17:59:37 (permalink)
Can confirm EVGA responded to me that hybrid models including kingpin are not part of step up.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 18:09:06 (permalink)
Tried to flash the Hybrid bios onto my FTW 3 Ultra converted to hybrid with the kit, however it won't take says wrong card. Jacob or anyone, any plans to offer a new bios for us that convert a FTW3 Ultra air to Hybrid with your kits? I would guess the bios is tuned differently and the fans firmware must be different too right? Since the fans and leds are being connected to the card's pcb, I would guess they need a little retune, as right now they are working as if the card was still an air card....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 18:42:48 (permalink)
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Hydrocoppers are never in Step Up queue, wouldn't expect them to be this time either.  

 
Well that sucks as that is the card I really want but got tired of waiting for the Hydrocopper to become available and I came up in the XC3 queue and had 8 hours to decide if I wanted it or not.  I figured I could do the Step Up since the rest of my system is open loop and this AIO was just a temporary solution until I could get a Hydrocopper.
 

The 104 Power Limit is partly because it only has 2 8-pins, you should be able to get a higher power limit BIOS at some point, that's the one that isn't available yet (that should unlock the highest power limit available safely for that card's amount of power inputs).
 
Keep in mind, the technical wattage limit should be 375W on that card given what it has.  Keeping it cooler has little to do with how much power the card can safely draw - and it's also partly NVidia handicapping all their cards so that there's room to improve for the Ti/Super-revisions that are coming.
 
 
If you wanted a better OCing/higher power limit experience you definitely should've held on for a FTW3 Hybrid (or the Kingpin if you wanna go full bonkers).



Yeah, I tried to get in the FTW3 queue but came up short.  Will reach out to EVGA to see if they are going to charge me a 15% restock fee and weigh that against selling it on eBay for the 10% fee.  I might be able to barely break even selling it there.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 19:05:11 (permalink)
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Hydrocoppers are never in Step Up queue, wouldn't expect them to be this time either.  

 
Well that sucks as that is the card I really want but got tired of waiting for the Hydrocopper to become available and I came up in the XC3 queue and had 8 hours to decide if I wanted it or not.  I figured I could do the Step Up since the rest of my system is open loop and this AIO was just a temporary solution until I could get a Hydrocopper.
 

The 104 Power Limit is partly because it only has 2 8-pins, you should be able to get a higher power limit BIOS at some point, that's the one that isn't available yet (that should unlock the highest power limit available safely for that card's amount of power inputs).
 
Keep in mind, the technical wattage limit should be 375W on that card given what it has.  Keeping it cooler has little to do with how much power the card can safely draw - and it's also partly NVidia handicapping all their cards so that there's room to improve for the Ti/Super-revisions that are coming.
 
 
If you wanted a better OCing/higher power limit experience you definitely should've held on for a FTW3 Hybrid (or the Kingpin if you wanna go full bonkers).



Yeah, I tried to get in the FTW3 queue but came up short.  Will reach out to EVGA to see if they are going to charge me a 15% restock fee and weigh that against selling it on eBay for the 10% fee.  I might be able to barely break even selling it there.


just put a ek water block on it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 19:05:16 (permalink)
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Yeah, I tried to get in the FTW3 queue but came up short.  Will reach out to EVGA to see if they are going to charge me a 15% restock fee and weigh that against selling it on eBay for the 10% fee.  I might be able to barely break even selling it there.



Not that I support scalping, but if you decide you don't want to keep the card, you will make profit on EBay, guaranteed, all of these 30-series GPUs are selling for well over retail, even if listed as slightly used - you can just list it for retail then see where it gets bid up to.  Even after the 10% fees, you'll make profit.
 
My 3080 for example would fetch a lorg profito (recent completed listings in the 1100-1300 range), since it's a 100% known-to-be-working card, has the Normal stock BIOS on the Normal switch, and the XOC OC Bios on the OC switch, so it's setup ideally for a regular or an advanced user.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 19:08:53 (permalink)
I think his main issue (which I can perfectly understand, and agree with) is that the XC3 3090 has a very low power limit & therefore has no headroom, therefore liquid cooling the card, other than getting the temps lower for the sake of lower temps, is kind of pointless, as it won't add any headroom at all.  It will allow the boost tables to give him higher clocks, but it won't net him actually-higher offsets - just less downclocking due to temperature, by the card itself.
 
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Can confirm EVGA responded to me that hybrid models including kingpin are not part of step up.



This has already been confirmed directly from eVGA, I believe JacobF specifically responded to a post in the Step Up area, as have several eVGA Mods, stating that Hydrocopper, Hybrid & especially Kingpin cards, are not added to the Step Up queue, they have never been in the past, and they are all "limited supply" meaning only so many of them are made per shipment etc, so putting them in Step Up would not be a good idea.
 
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC 2020/12/12 19:18:08 (permalink)
Are there any reviews for the hybrid cards? Just curious what I'm getting myself into!

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