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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 06:40:29
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I think at least one of those "loud pump" people so far has a faulty pump in their card for sure, based on just listening to his recording of it - he's working with eVGA to get the card RMAed (it literally sounds like his pump is grinding so that's definitely not normal pump sounds).
That would be me. I've minimized the sound some what by shifting the way the tubes sit in the case but it still pop up from time to time. I'll most likely RMA the card just to be sure. Other than that noise, it is pretty quiet. But it does hit 60ish on Cyberpunk like others have mentioned.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 07:07:01
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I think at least one of those "loud pump" people so far has a faulty pump in their card for sure, based on just listening to his recording of it - he's working with eVGA to get the card RMAed (it literally sounds like his pump is grinding so that's definitely not normal pump sounds).
That would be me. I've minimized the sound some what by shifting the way the tubes sit in the case but it still pop up from time to time. I'll most likely RMA the card just to be sure. Other than that noise, it is pretty quiet. But it does hit 60ish on Cyberpunk like others have mentioned.
I was hitting 60C on cyberpunk as well after hours of gaming. My 280x is kind of tight though and the front panel is really not great for a front rad set up so I took it off and temps went back to 55C which is what I was getting with Modern Warfare.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 07:09:29
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Shoot I would take the 60deg over the 83 deg I am hitting on Cyberpunk on the 3090 ftw3 ultra air cooled any day of the week.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 07:17:21
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This is the fan make/model on the 3090 XC3 hybrid: 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 07:20:09
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Anyone know much about the fans that come with the hybrid rads?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 07:59:50
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The pump in the 3090 FTW Hybrid isn't loud. Even at full load the pump/radiator fans are still pretty quiet. Mine completely died four days after it arrived, but otherwise it performed well.
Damn that sucks, and not good to see, hopefully EVGA will take care of that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 08:01:34
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Apologies if this has been answered somewhere else, but do I need to update the bios on a 3080 ftw3 when installing the hybrid conversion kit? I am currently using the overclock bios posted in the forums.
CPU: i7 10700k @ 5.0 GHz with 360mm Corsair H150i Elite LCD cooler MB: MSI Z490 Meg Ace RAM: 64gb Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB @ 3466 MHz GPU: 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i (1000 Watts) Primary Monitor: LG CX48 (4k OLED) Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB Mouse: Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB Headset: Arctis Pro Wireless Mic: Elgato Wave 3 VR: Occulus Quest 2
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 08:16:29
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Is the card shroud/cover on the Hybrids easy to remove? It is very much lacking in the aRGB LED department, and when mounted vertically makes a huge black hole in the tower. If it's easy to remove, might modify it to hold a few LED strips....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 08:24:18
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Just a quick reminder as to where we are on the Hybrids.
As of 8:15 am PT Monday morning, the North American queues are approximately here (bolded font represents movement from Friday morning’s summary; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of the movement):
Card SKU Auto-Notify Date/Time
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 3988 12/10/2020 09:16:28 (00:02:27)
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid 3978 12/08/2020 10:13:30 (00:28:20)
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid 3898 11/13/2020 09:32:12
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid 3888 12/10/2020 09:08:34 (new 12/10 que)
Hydro Copper (Delayed)
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC 3989 11/13/2020 00:00:00
3090 XC3 Ultra HC 3979 11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC 3889 11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Ultra HC 3889 11/13/2020 00:00:00
Good luck today!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 08:32:22
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Any details on where we are on the "fix" to the cooling blocks for the Hydro Copper cards? Are there 1000's of these cards sitting somewhere just waiting to have the revised block attached and then they will start going out the door? 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:29:08
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Installed my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid (sku 3988) on the weekend. I still had my FTW3 air, so I thought I'd share the differences between the hybrid and the FTW3 air. With the exception of #3, no overclocks just max power. - XOC OC bios (Time Spy)
- Air: 18,649 -> 20,031 GPU score
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16233876
- Hybrid: 19,076 --> 20,685 GPU score
- : https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16245757
- Stock OC Bios (Time Spy)
- Air: 18,619 --> 19,917 GPU score
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16235039
- Hybrid: 19,069 --> 20,585 GPU score
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16245273
- Best overclocked score (Time Spy)
- Air:19,207 --> 20,809 GPU score
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16074644
Hybrid: 19,599 --> 21,362 GPU score- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16270620
- Stock OC (Port Royal)
- Air: 13,105
- https://www.3dmark.com/pr/632563
- Hybrid: 13,512
- https://www.3dmark.com/pr/633597
So I'm getting about a 400 point boost in each comparison and a 20 degree reduction in temps (70 C down to 50 C).
post edited by JonnyVee - 2020/12/14 10:11:33
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:30:50
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Aren't there already thermal pads on these memory chips?
Yes but paste to heatsink is more efficient than pad to heatsink.
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What kind of temps are people getting with their xc3 ultra hybrid? In cyberpunk I get to 60C after a few hours of playing. Had to remove my front cover to my 280x to get it back to 55C.
I am getting a solid 49C with my 3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid after 4 hours of Cyberpunk. That's with a solid 1985 boost clock speed (that can go up to 2000+) and no OC. Right now running the game at 3440 x 1440, I am getting 65 FPS with everything Ultra and DLSS Q. Have yet to try 4K on my TV to see what FPS I would get from that. Hope that helps :)
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So now EVGA is making use of the edges of their AIO to extract heat away from their memory. And I took measurements of this.
https://preview.redd.it/wznvqlmabu461.png?width=4926&format=png&auto=webp&s=32802654f87b52df80d4c0c96c29bd828f856980
For reference, here's Gamers Nexus measuring the memory temperatures
So the plate being tied to the AIO actually works :)
Now I know the 3090 has memory on both sides, but this should still help. The card will still extract heat away from both memory modules due to contact and thermal conduction, just not as efficient. The rear memory modules are still attached to the backplate with a copper base.
That is a pretty big difference in vRAM temps indeed. About 20C, from the looks of it. I would assume part of that is the PCB soaking less heat because of the GPU core itself being cooled more effectively, combined with the fact that the memory plate helps as well.
Nice to know vRAM temps won't be an issue too much.
All that you listed helps and the plate is in direct contact with thermal paste to the AIO itself :) So the VRAM temperatures drop 15-20C. My response was to PCLausen who thought the memory plate wasn't cooled by the AIO. EVGA claims to have a patent on this idea too and it clearly works.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:36:57
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Apologies if this has been answered somewhere else, but do I need to update the bios on a 3080 ftw3 when installing the hybrid conversion kit? I am currently using the overclock bios posted in the forums.
There is a XOC Hybrid BIOs for these cards. I didn't really see it do anything, I believe it's to control the fans properly with a fan curve. The GPU and radiator fan.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:43:36
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:45:59
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Is the card shroud/cover on the Hybrids easy to remove? It is very much lacking in the aRGB LED department, and when mounted vertically makes a huge black hole in the tower. If it's easy to remove, might modify it to hold a few LED strips....
I made a installation and unboxing topic here:
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-kit-unboxing-and-installation-gallery-m3174307.aspx
You can also reference the installation manual, they uploaded it.
I saw your unboxing photos over the weekend. Really like how you walked us through each step. Nice job!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 09:50:51
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Installed my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid (sku 3988) on the weekend. I still had my FTW3 air, so I thought I'd share the differences between the hybrid and the FTW3 air.
With the exception of #3, no overclocks just max power.
- XOC OC bios (Time Spy)
- Air: 18,649
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16233876
- Hybrid: 19,076
- : https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16245757
- Stock OC Bios (Time Spy)
- Air: 18,619
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16235039
- Hybrid: 19,069
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16245273
- Best overclocked score (Time Spy)
- Air:19,207
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16074644
- Hybrid: 19,599
- https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16270620
- Stock OC (Port Royal)
- Air: 13,105
- https://www.3dmark.com/pr/632563
- Hybrid: 13,512
- https://www.3dmark.com/pr/633597
So I'm getting about a 400 point boost in each comparison and a 20 degree reduction in temps (70 C down to 50 C).
Thanks for sharing these! This is awesome. One thing, I recommend sharing the GPU score, which matters the most for this case. :)
KingEngineRevUp
CoMarc
Is the card shroud/cover on the Hybrids easy to remove? It is very much lacking in the aRGB LED department, and when mounted vertically makes a huge black hole in the tower. If it's easy to remove, might modify it to hold a few LED strips....
I made a installation and unboxing topic here:
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-kit-unboxing-and-installation-gallery-m3174307.aspx
You can also reference the installation manual, they uploaded it.
I saw your unboxing photos over the weekend. Really like how you walked us through each step. Nice job!
Yeah, I got the radiator to be hidden and behind the case, your friend can do the same if he's interested!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 10:12:34
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Thanks for sharing these! This is awesome. One thing, I recommend sharing the GPU score, which matters the most for this case. :)
Updated.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 10:49:23
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KingEngineRevUp
Edit: the best configuration is push-pull > Push > Pull
I would put the fans in a push configuration where they push the air through the radiator.
Always use pull in all my builds, CPU or GPU AIO. https://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 10:52:45
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Yeah, I got the radiator to be hidden and behind the case, your friend can do the same if he's interested!
Given how much I had to help him...and I suggested that in the first instance...I don't think he is going to open the case up for a few months (unless he absolutely has to). He wanted to Unifan SL120s away from the wall so they could be shown off a little bit...so that's the approach he went with. It looks pretty good...I cannot fault him too much. I do like your set up more though.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 11:06:57
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Edit: the best configuration is push-pull > Push > Pull
I would put the fans in a push configuration where they push the air through the radiator.
Always use pull in all my builds, CPU or GPU AIO.
https://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk
That video has no compelling reasons to put your setup in pull unless if you have a cat or something.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 11:40:34
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Edit: the best configuration is push-pull > Push > Pull
I would put the fans in a push configuration where they push the air through the radiator.
Always use pull in all my builds, CPU or GPU AIO.
https://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk
That video has no compelling reasons to put your setup in pull unless if you have a cat or something.
Off topic, wanted to ask your thoughts about 120 ML fans for pull set ups? Better than the stock rad EVGA fan or an LL fan?
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 11:59:14
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Edit: the best configuration is push-pull > Push > Pull
I would put the fans in a push configuration where they push the air through the radiator.
Always use pull in all my builds, CPU or GPU AIO.
https://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk
That video has no compelling reasons to put your setup in pull unless if you have a cat or something.
Off topic, wanted to ask your thoughts about 120 ML fans for pull set ups? Better than the stock rad EVGA fan or an LL fan?
You didn't ask me, but I would take the ML over the LL any day of the week.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 13:02:45
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Edit: the best configuration is push-pull > Push > Pull
I would put the fans in a push configuration where they push the air through the radiator.
Always use pull in all my builds, CPU or GPU AIO.
https://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk
That video has no compelling reasons to put your setup in pull unless if you have a cat or something.
Dust is dust, cat or not, considering that push vs pull are essentially identical in cooling performance, pull actually is better at higher rpm, what is the reason to go for push in this scenario and dealing with higher maintenance overhead that requires unbolting fan for full cleaning?
https://youtu.be/IJmE13sG9PI?t=730
 
This test actually shows Pull outperforming Push in Low and High RPM scenario, but it's very close.
https://www.ekwb.com/blog...ush-pull-on-radiators/
Thanks for sharing. You are aware that when you say high RPM, that's 2200 RPMs there. That is VERY loud. The majority of users here will have their fan speeds I would argue from 1200-1600 RPMs. Not 2000s. That is why I am advocating for push and push always. Invest in intake dust filters and clean your system at least once a year. Don't have your case on the floor. EDIT: There are other factors actually, the higher positive pressure in your case can also affect things. Imagine air wants to already force itself through the fans because of the amount of pressure in the system. A push vs. pull system in this case might night matter since it's getting help from all the intake fans. But a negative air pressure case, it will definitely matter as the negative pressure will affect the exhaust fans, the exhaust fans will have to fight harder to maintain RPMs.
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2020/12/14 13:08:04
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 13:05:45
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Thanks for sharing. You are aware that when you say high RPM, that's 2200 RPMs there. That is VERY loud.
The majority of users here will have their fan speeds I would argue from 1200-1600 RPMs. Not 2000s. That is why I am advocating for push and push always. Invest in intake dust filters and clean your system at least once a year. Don't have your case on the floor.
I am also a fan of push-pull and of maintaining "positive pressure" in the case (so that there is more air flowing in through fans than out). This should keep the intake of dust and cat hair to where the fans are...and, per KingEngine, you've hopefully invested in dust filters. Negative pressure would have air sneaking into the case through cracks in, and corners of, the case.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
2020/12/14 13:39:20
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Has anyone installed this in the standard size P011 Dynamic case? Just wondering what options are as I am thinking I may upgrade to XL so I can mount it in the rear and run under rad hose under the side intake fans!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 and 3080 HYBRID/HC
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enewtI am also a fan of push-pull and of maintaining "positive pressure" in the case (so that there is more air flowing in through fans than out). This should keep the intake of dust and cat hair to where the fans are...and, per KingEngine, you've hopefully invested in dust filters. Negative pressure would have air sneaking into the case through cracks in, and corners of, the case. Same here, slight positive, not too much. I also sealed my case to ensure all air passes through a fan and filter. it's not air-tight, but all those little edges, open grills spots are closed off on my case.
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