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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 13:19:59 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

That would be nice since based on the Tom's Hardware article about initial Cyberpunk 2077 performance analysis, we'll need all the brute force we can get! Looks like that game will bring even the KPE to it's knees.


I'm hopeful the Day 1 Patch + Nvidia Driver update will increase that performance
 
Speaking of .. those driver updates are the reason the 6900xt isn't a logical consideration to me.  I HATE AMDs drivers.  

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 13:36:08 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Think only, not that you are gonna be able to use the card. Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 13:42:57 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.

Rasterization. The 6800XT Red Devil already trades blows with the 3090 in pure rasterization workloads, makes one curious what AIB 6900XT's will be capable of doing. There are many gamers out there who don't care much about Ray Tracing right now, believe it or not.


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 15:04:08 (permalink)
Not sure if it has been covered but does anyone have any information on the radiator fans. I would like to know the Max RPM and how the default RPM curve looks like. Thanks yall. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 15:34:19 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

i expect a big paper launch as everything this year...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 15:36:19 (permalink)
Wow, forgot all about the 6900xt...


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 17:16:29 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.

Rasterization. The 6800XT Red Devil already trades blows with the 3090 in pure rasterization workloads, makes one curious what AIB 6900XT's will be capable of doing. There are many gamers out there who don't care much about Ray Tracing right now, believe it or not.

If you buy a 3090 level graphic card, I would assume your primary target is to play top of the top 3A games. Players with 6900XT will have a almost 50% decrease on performance against 3090 on 3A gaming, if players are looking for pure rasterization, I would think console will be a better choice. Knowing NV so well, 3000 series cards are being locked by certain limit. Like 2080ti, a driver update could release 10% more performances. Yet 6900XT has already been pushed to its limit. Customer gets the call on this war, words above are just my thoughts. Thanks
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 20:05:16 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.

Rasterization. The 6800XT Red Devil already trades blows with the 3090 in pure rasterization workloads, makes one curious what AIB 6900XT's will be capable of doing. There are many gamers out there who don't care much about Ray Tracing right now, believe it or not.

If you buy a 3090 level graphic card, I would assume your primary target is to play top of the top 3A games. Players with 6900XT will have a almost 50% decrease on performance against 3090 on 3A gaming, if players are looking for pure rasterization, I would think console will be a better choice. Knowing NV so well, 3000 series cards are being locked by certain limit. Like 2080ti, a driver update could release 10% more performances. Yet 6900XT has already been pushed to its limit. Customer gets the call on this war, words above are just my thoughts. Thanks


AMD usually shows a greater % in performance vs Nvidia 2 years after release due to driver updates. This is called “Fine Wine”

Obviously 3090 will remain king for ray tracing. I’m just saying it would suck if the 6900 XT was faster over say a 9 game average vs the 3090 and I would have second thoughts about buying a Kingpin once my auto notify email comes in.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 20:25:39 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.

Rasterization. The 6800XT Red Devil already trades blows with the 3090 in pure rasterization workloads, makes one curious what AIB 6900XT's will be capable of doing. There are many gamers out there who don't care much about Ray Tracing right now, believe it or not.

If you buy a 3090 level graphic card, I would assume your primary target is to play top of the top 3A games. Players with 6900XT will have a almost 50% decrease on performance against 3090 on 3A gaming, if players are looking for pure rasterization, I would think console will be a better choice. Knowing NV so well, 3000 series cards are being locked by certain limit. Like 2080ti, a driver update could release 10% more performances. Yet 6900XT has already been pushed to its limit. Customer gets the call on this war, words above are just my thoughts. Thanks


AMD usually shows a greater % in performance vs Nvidia 2 years after release due to driver updates. This is called “Fine Wine”

Obviously 3090 will remain king for ray tracing. I’m just saying it would suck if the 6900 XT was faster over say a 9 game average vs the 3090 and I would have second thoughts about buying a Kingpin once my auto notify email comes in.

Do you have some backup to that 2 year claim?  Every AMD card I've owned has gotten worse over time as they f up the drivers. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 21:04:44 (permalink)
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Posted in the queue thread but also posting here. Jacob’s Twitter update for today: No KP emails going out today.

https://twitter.com/evga_...36009398322253824?s=21


The 6900XT releases tomorrow. If it ends up being faster than the 3090 Kingpin, at least we have something to think about before ordering.

Faster on what, there is a definition for fast.

Rasterization. The 6800XT Red Devil already trades blows with the 3090 in pure rasterization workloads, makes one curious what AIB 6900XT's will be capable of doing. There are many gamers out there who don't care much about Ray Tracing right now, believe it or not.

If you buy a 3090 level graphic card, I would assume your primary target is to play top of the top 3A games. Players with 6900XT will have a almost 50% decrease on performance against 3090 on 3A gaming, if players are looking for pure rasterization, I would think console will be a better choice. Knowing NV so well, 3000 series cards are being locked by certain limit. Like 2080ti, a driver update could release 10% more performances. Yet 6900XT has already been pushed to its limit. Customer gets the call on this war, words above are just my thoughts. Thanks


AMD usually shows a greater % in performance vs Nvidia 2 years after release due to driver updates. This is called “Fine Wine”

Obviously 3090 will remain king for ray tracing. I’m just saying it would suck if the 6900 XT was faster over say a 9 game average vs the 3090 and I would have second thoughts about buying a Kingpin once my auto notify email comes in.

Do you have some backup to that 2 year claim?  Every AMD card I've owned has gotten worse over time as they f up the drivers. 


This:
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This
https://www.overclock.net...3-years-later.1753038/

Just a quick google on my phone. I can’t find the one I remember. AMD is the reason I went from Vega to 2080ti. I couldn’t handle the daily Radeon software overclocking crashes and having to reset my OC every time.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/07 22:46:50 (permalink)
Received my Kingpin 3090 earlier today and installed it! I did not have any issue installing the card and booted in fine. I updated to the newest NVIDIA driver after I installed the card.
 
I was previously having an issue using the newest version of X1 (crash upon launch) but it seems to have fixed itself after installing this card.... which is weird. I'm happy with the new X1 though. It actually seems to save the RGB and message / animation changes you make despite putting the computer to sleep or shutting it off.
 
Here are some pics of the card:



 
I haven't tried overclocking or doing any benchmarks with yet. I'm going to take my sweet time with each test. I spent a few hours testing some games on the stock bios to make sure everything was stable. I was previously using a KP 2080ti and immediately noticed the performance boost after installing KP 3090 card. I can run games like WD Legion and AC: Valhalla at 60fps maxed out in 4k resolution with DLSS on quality. I noticed a 30fps boost right off the bat in these games. I'm really loving the card so far.
 
With my normal setup this card idles at 28c with an ambient of 21c / 70f and doesn't go past 56c during gaming.
 
Cheers to everyone enjoying their card
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 00:06:27 (permalink)
Nice. I have the same brown marble table

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 03:13:17 (permalink)
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With my normal setup this card idles at 28c with an ambient of 21c / 70f and doesn't go past 56c during gaming.
 
Cheers to everyone enjoying their card


That sounds incredible. I’ve shunted my FE so in the most demanding games I’ll approach 77c. I really hope I’m one of the lucky queue numbers this week.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 05:55:10 (permalink)
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I can run games like WD Legion and AC: Valhalla at 60fps maxed out in 4k resolution with DLSS on quality. I noticed a 30fps boost right off the bat in these games. I'm really loving the card so far.




Nice! The first gaming benchmarks I’ve seen for this card. WD Legion is a pretty demanding game. Can’t wait to play it on this behemoth.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 06:41:49 (permalink)
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Any one have any info about Hydro Copper version of kingpin? When will it be available?


Last update from Jacob was they are delayed due to qc issues and probably not till 2021 now

 
Honestly seems like they're having QC issues with this initial batch of KP hybrids. The chips don't seem to be binned at all looking at most peoples results.


Why do you say "QC issues"? I have not heard of one that has RMA yet. The so called binning has all been speculation. Can you please show me an advertisement that shows EVGA claiming a certain bin? That would be helpful.


 
QC as in chip quality. Historically, K|ngp|n's have been binned. Or have they not?? Vince said himself on the livestream that he handpicks the chips himself. If they're not binned more aggressively then what makes them any different than a FTW3 Hybrid other than PCB design and slightly more unlocked BIOS?
 
No need to be so passive aggressive, bud.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 06:47:36 (permalink)
Software probably. Vince needs his 100 at least a card and EVGA needs to make something on top of the FTW3 Hybrid. Only a guess on what Vince gets but you can see what I'm saying i think.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 06:51:58 (permalink)
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Software probably. Vince needs his 100 at least a card and EVGA needs to make something on top of the FTW3 Hybrid. Only a guess on what Vince gets but you can see what I'm saying i think.


Very true. The classified tool can open them up quite a bit without requiring any sort of hard-modding.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 07:23:39 (permalink)
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Software probably. Vince needs his 100 at least a card and EVGA needs to make something on top of the FTW3 Hybrid. Only a guess on what Vince gets but you can see what I'm saying i think.


Very true. The classified tool can open them up quite a bit without requiring any sort of hard-modding.


Not really unless you also pair the classy tool with the actual XOC bios. Power limits ect...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 07:48:23 (permalink)
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Any one have any info about Hydro Copper version of kingpin? When will it be available?


Last update from Jacob was they are delayed due to qc issues and probably not till 2021 now

 
Honestly seems like they're having QC issues with this initial batch of KP hybrids. The chips don't seem to be binned at all looking at most peoples results.


Why do you say "QC issues"? I have not heard of one that has RMA yet. The so called binning has all been speculation. Can you please show me an advertisement that shows EVGA claiming a certain bin? That would be helpful.


 
QC as in chip quality. Historically, K|ngp|n's have been binned. Or have they not?? Vince said himself on the livestream that he handpicks the chips himself. If they're not binned more aggressively then what makes them any different than a FTW3 Hybrid other than PCB design and slightly more unlocked BIOS?
 
No need to be so passive aggressive, bud.


They are binned as far as being guaranteed the hit the advertised clocks, which are higher than the rest of the lineup. If a person wants more than that then they will have to go through multiple cards themselves. I would also like to add that I would be very surprised to see one of these card not clock higher than the specs listed. 
post edited by NICROD - 2020/12/08 08:11:51
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 08:05:28 (permalink)
Quick question on watercooled GPU's. I currently have a FTW3 Ultra 3080 and the heat radiates out of my case fans. Do Hybrid cards help with the heat radiating or will it have the same issue?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 08:28:02 (permalink)
EVGA Hybrid design is pretty impressive. If i were buying more cards from EVGA definitely would go hybrid vs Air or WB if I was just gaming or not using a chiller.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 08:35:50 (permalink)
How is the pump noise on the Kingpin?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 08:40:26 (permalink)
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How is the pump noise on the Kingpin?


That is the one thing I noticed. My system is very quiet, and I can hear it. Saying that I cant tell you exactly as I dont have a way to measure it. I have an EasyXL open bench with 2 aquacomputer d5's and six 140mm Noiseblocker fans running at min speed, and its the loudest component. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 08:42:00 (permalink)
 





They are binned as far as being guaranteed the hit the advertised clocks, which are higher than the rest of the lineup. If a person wants more than that then they will have to go through multiple cards themselves. I would also like to add that I would be very surprised to see one of these card not clock higher than the specs listed. 




 
Do you all remember the 980 TI K|NGP|N. I have mine sitting right here. Anyway they were actually marketed as binned remember 74%, 76%, 78% and I think 80%.  Each bin was more expensive than the other.  Non of which could clock @1600mhz if memory serves...
 
Can't remember if EVGA ever did this in another cycle? But ya...
 
In the 980 ti KPE cycle a 74% bin die would clock at 1500 @ ambient ~ and a 78% only a couple bins higher like 1535mhz @ ambient.  The 80% bin @ best was clocking 1550mhz
 
The 1080ti KPE - I forget - & was too busy gaming...
 
2080ti KPE - binned to min base @ 2040-2055mhz and a peak ambient 2195-2205 clock
 
3090 KPE? Unknown
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 15:15:24 (permalink)
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They are binned as far as being guaranteed the hit the advertised clocks, which are higher than the rest of the lineup. If a person wants more than that then they will have to go through multiple cards themselves. I would also like to add that I would be very surprised to see one of these card not clock higher than the specs listed. 




Do you mean higher than the advertised 1920 out of the box? Because mine boosts exactly 1920 out of the box. Was a bit disappointed when it looked like Jay and Vince's were boosting ~2050 initially.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 15:40:37 (permalink)
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How is the pump noise on the Kingpin?

NICROD
That is the one thing I noticed. My system is very quiet, and I can hear it. Saying that I cant tell you exactly as I dont have a way to measure it. I have an EasyXL open bench with 2 aquacomputer d5's and six 140mm Noiseblocker fans running at min speed, and its the loudest component.


I notice the pump when it hits around 1600 RPM but otherwise it's quiet. Way more quiet than the KP 2080ti pump. You just have to make sure you have a custom fan curve in Precision X1 for Fan #2 which controls the pump. The default curve puts the pump at 1400rpm on idle and increases the other fans as well to the point where you can hear them. It's completely unnecessary. That is why I feel like a custom curve is important here.
 
Here is my custom curve and idle fan speeds:

 
Also one other thing I've noticed is no coil whine on this card. Not even a little bit during gaming. I hope it doesn't develop on its own over time. My 2080ti had tons of coil whine which really annoyed me.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 15:43:31 (permalink)

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 15:46:16 (permalink)
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 Also one other thing I've noticed is no coil whine on this card. Not even a little bit during gaming. I hope it doesn't develop on its own over time. My 2080ti had tons of coil whine which really annoyed me.



Pretty sure mine does. I can tab in and out of a high fps game and the buzz is only there when tabbed into the game.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 16:04:59 (permalink)
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How is the pump noise on the Kingpin?

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That is the one thing I noticed. My system is very quiet, and I can hear it. Saying that I cant tell you exactly as I dont have a way to measure it. I have an EasyXL open bench with 2 aquacomputer d5's and six 140mm Noiseblocker fans running at min speed, and its the loudest component.


I notice the pump when it hits around 1600 RPM but otherwise it's quiet. Way more quiet than the KP 2080ti pump. You just have to make sure you have a custom fan curve in Precision X1 for Fan #2 which controls the pump. The default curve puts the pump at 1400rpm on idle and increases the other fans as well to the point where you can hear them. It's completely unnecessary. That is why I feel like a custom curve is important here.
 
Here is my custom curve and idle fan speeds:

 
Also one other thing I've noticed is no coil whine on this card. Not even a little bit during gaming. I hope it doesn't develop on its own over time. My 2080ti had tons of coil whine which really annoyed me.


I thought the pump ran at 100% all the time and those curve were control the fans? I feel a bit silly now! I have the Hybrid card as opposed to Kingpin and it will not go lower then 40%.
post edited by Mathieas - 2020/12/08 16:15:30

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/12/08 17:13:27 (permalink)
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Well that is the GPU cycle of life!  Step 1: Develop a game that is too powerful for existing GPUs to fully run flawlessly; Step 2: Develop and market a super powerful and expensive GPU that can almost handle that game flawlessly; Step 3: Once everyone has the shiny new GPU and can almost run that game flawlessly, develop an even more demanding game that is too powerful for existing GPUs to fully run flawlessly; Step 4: Rinse, Repeat!

That does seem to be the trend these days. Each new generation of game and/or GPU seems to be less and less impressive than the last generation as time goes on. I think I got a bigger visual improvement just from going OLED & HDR than going from a 980Ti up to a 2080Ti.
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I thought the pump ran at 100% all the time and those curve were control the fans? I feel a bit silly now! I have the Hybrid card as opposed to Kingpin and it will not go lower then 40%.

I believe that's true. 1 fan setting is the physical fan installed on the GPU itself to cool the memory and stuff, and the other fan setting is the fan(s) on the radiator. I believe the pump does run at 100% regardless since I don't think there's a setting anywhere.
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