NICROD

jspataro99

NICROD
Is anyone here actually planning on using LN2 on their KP cards?

I’m planning on using mine for hardcore multi monitor flight simming for real world flight training and proficiency and gaming, so no LN2 planned here.

I would be more than happy to have a glorified FTW3, so if anyone who is severely disappointed in the KPE bench performance wants to remove their notifies and let the rest of us have a shot at them sooner, that would be much appreciated!

Thats sounds reasonable to me. I'm confused at the comments that I see about the performance #'s, we all saw what is was before the emails were sent out to purchase. I've also been telling folks here since the start of these treads that your not going to see the full potential of these unless they are cooled with sub0 temps. Somehow there is a false expectation that under ambient conditions is going to have some miraculous performance gains. 

When Vince is getting 15.5k scores on his KP versus my 14.8k at a lower ambient temperature, it feels like I'm being jerked around.

That is why I asked if he was using the unlocked bios with no voltage limit. My card does not hit his numbers and even when I can get it close to the numbers he dialed in, my scores are still significantly lower.

Vince doesn't even do any of the stupid tricks we all do to get a few extra bumps in performance (as per the twitch feed OC event). So what looks like a 700 point difference in scores is likely a 1000+ difference.

As for LN2. Why would I bother with this card unless I can get the OCs on air they were getting at the event. I'd be wasting my time and potentially money for results this card cannot ever achieve...

NICROD

QueueCumber

NICROD

jspataro99

NICROD
Is anyone here actually planning on using LN2 on their KP cards?

I’m planning on using mine for hardcore multi monitor flight simming for real world flight training and proficiency and gaming, so no LN2 planned here.

I would be more than happy to have a glorified FTW3, so if anyone who is severely disappointed in the KPE bench performance wants to remove their notifies and let the rest of us have a shot at them sooner, that would be much appreciated!

Thats sounds reasonable to me. I'm confused at the comments that I see about the performance #'s, we all saw what is was before the emails were sent out to purchase. I've also been telling folks here since the start of these treads that your not going to see the full potential of these unless they are cooled with sub0 temps. Somehow there is a false expectation that under ambient conditions is going to have some miraculous performance gains. 

When Vince is getting 15.5k scores on his KP versus my 14.8k at a lower ambient temperature, it feels like I'm being jerked around.

That is why I asked if he was using the unlocked bios with no voltage limit. My card does not hit his numbers and even when I can get it close to the numbers he dialed in, my scores are still significantly lower.

Sucks to see youre unhappy with your card, maybe you can just sell it. I'm sure there are tons of people out there that would like to have it. Then you wont be bothered by it any longer.

Well. The hope is that Vince got those scores with the unlocked bios. If that is the case, I have a chance still with this card. If not, I do plan on selling it on ebay asap. If it takes too long to get those answers, it will also go up on ebay. I'm not waiting as long as I have with the xoc bios issues. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.... lol

During the live feed Kingpin competition, I think it was Steve that asked whether the Kingpin cards were binned. I believed from the moment I saw Jacob's reaction that a lie was happening live. Binned, yes, i believe for the live feed they were.

Killam315
Is there a way to get in the queue for the kingpin? I don't see the notify button next to it.

The auto-notify button should go live again once EVGA satisfies the existing queue.  Apparently, there will be an announcement (not through what channel, tweet, etc.) before it goes live.  The current queue (that we are aware of) can be found in this thread (or in my signature block below).  Good luck!

QueueCumber
Well. The hope is that Vince got those scores with the unlocked bios. If that is the case, I have a chance still with this card. If not, I do plan on selling it on ebay asap. If it takes too long to get those answers, it will also go up on ebay. I'm not waiting as long as I have with the xoc bios issues. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.... lol

 
 
... Do you understand that more voltage exponentially pulls more current, AKA exponentially increases the wattage requirement? Of course with 1.45V+ memory and 1.2V+ core you are going to need more than a puny 520W on this card. Just the GA-102 chip draws over 600W itself in timespy extreme at 1.1V for crying out loud. 
 
The big question is going to be how hard it is going to be to get the XOC bios. Will we all have to individually bug Vince and get signed copies or will they make it public.

wwxww
During the live feed Kingpin competition, I think it was Steve that asked whether the Kingpin cards were binned. I believed from the moment I saw Jacob's reaction that a lie was happening live. Binned, yes, i believe for the live feed they were.

That's what I'm wondering too. Feels like the cards aren't really being binned or are being binned in the same way the FTW3 ones are.

I have to wonder why there is no option to purchase a certified high binned 3090 Kingpin like was available in some past Kingpin card releases.
I'm sure those interested would accept a slight increase in costs if this was possible.

hallowen
I have to wonder why there is no option to purchase a certified high binned 3090 Kingpin like was available in some past Kingpin card releases.
I'm sure those interested would accept a slight increase in costs if this was possible.

Maybe they will release a classified at some point? Vince did say that maybe they will bring it back in the future . I just don't see how they would have had a large enough sample of 3090 dies to get higher bins. They have the highest guaranteed boost clocks at 1920MHZ. Where as the FTW3 Ultra is 1800MHZ and the Strix is 1890MHZ. 
 
Maybe their needs to be a third party seller like https://siliconlottery.com/ lol. New business idea?? 

QueueCumber
Saying your card hits 1920mhz is silly advertising with these gpus.

They ALL hit that number!!!

It is artificial tiering easily eliminated with afterburner or precision x1.

And that is what they use to say your card is fine lol. I meant to ask you, have you tried seeing what kind of max frequency you can get under half load? I could be wrong, but I thought that was a good way to determine your silicon quality. 

Cadillac94pimpin

QueueCumber
Saying your card hits 1920mhz is silly advertising with these gpus.

They ALL hit that number!!!

It is artificial tiering easily eliminated with afterburner or precision x1.

And that is what they use to say your card is fine lol. I meant to ask you, have you tried seeing what kind of max frequency you can get under half load? I could be wrong, but I thought that was a good way to determine your silicon quality. 

That new DX Raytracing feature test of 3DMarks seems to be a good one to find top clocks under a lighter load.

arestavo

Cadillac94pimpin

QueueCumber
Saying your card hits 1920mhz is silly advertising with these gpus.

They ALL hit that number!!!

It is artificial tiering easily eliminated with afterburner or precision x1.

And that is what they use to say your card is fine lol. I meant to ask you, have you tried seeing what kind of max frequency you can get under half load? I could be wrong, but I thought that was a good way to determine your silicon quality. 

That new DX Raytracing feature test of 3DMarks seems to be a good one to find top clocks under a lighter load.

3Dmarks Port Royal seems to be a good one to find top clocks under a Heavy load.

Hillguy

QueueCumber
As for LN2. Why would I bother with this card unless I can get the OCs on air they were getting at the event. I'd be wasting my time and potentially money for results this card cannot ever achieve...

No offense intended but your expectations are extremely unrealistic ... LN2 numbers on air   ...  do yourself a favor and sell the card now. 

You are misunderstanding what he means. He wants to at least get what they were getting on AIR at the event, not LN2. He's saying it is a waste of time to LN2 the card if it can't even get the same clocks that the others were getting with Air Cooling. Too quick to jump down his throat for providing a reasonable assessment of the card.
 
I completely agree with QueueCumber and don't understand all the fanboying in this thread. With all that is going on with the FTW you would think people would be less "blindly" trusting of EVGA.
 
Based on this thread and the other KP thread, it really sounds like these GPU chips are not binned at all, or like someone else mentioned, "binned" like the FTW ones are. (Read: not at all) The FTW chips are all over the place, but the FTW PCB is just not working out.
 
If it performs poorly, I agree with QC's assessment.

DarthYodi

Hillguy

QueueCumber
As for LN2. Why would I bother with this card unless I can get the OCs on air they were getting at the event. I'd be wasting my time and potentially money for results this card cannot ever achieve...

No offense intended but your expectations are extremely unrealistic ... LN2 numbers on air   ...  do yourself a favor and sell the card now.

You are misunderstanding what he means. He wants to at least get what they were getting on AIR at the event, not LN2. He's saying it is a waste of time to LN2 the card if it can't even get the same clocks that the others were getting with Air Cooling. Too quick to jump down his throat for providing a reasonable assessment of the card.
I completely agree with QueueCumber and don't understand all the fanboying in this thread. With all that is going on with the FTW you would think people would be less "blindly" trusting of EVGA.
Based on this thread and the other KP thread, it really sounds like these GPU chips are not binned at all, or like someone else mentioned, "binned" like the FTW ones are. (Read: not at all) The FTW chips are all over the place, but the FTW PCB is just not working out.
If it performs poorly, I agree with QC's assessment.

My bad , I misread what he was saying so my apologies Mr QueueCumber .
 
I won't bother to argue the point that there are too many variables to compare what one sees in a video from a studio at evga , asus or anywhere else to what one can reproduce at home. 
 
Best of Luck