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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/11 23:26:54 (permalink)
lol dont get all the hype honestly my last kingpin got crapped on with a waterblock vs a ftw3 ultra 2080ti waterblock. yeah the kingpin was showing 480watts while the ftw3 was doing 400w and it was no contest hope the first batch is the supreme overclockers because it seemed longer you waited the less great of a card you got.
 
and yes the kpe is a ln2 card. and no i didnt use a chiller yeah they are sick to have but if you're not ln2 then they're pretty much pointless.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/11 23:30:03 (permalink)
Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/11 23:36:07 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/11 23:39:38 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 


Tbh honest it doesnt have to be a Kingpin for me because iam not going for overclocking result. Iam more about noise and very good quality. Also i want a AiO cooling solution because over the years i got lazy and i dont want to waste time anymore on building the stuff my self. So if EVGA releases a hybrid 3090 FTW3 or something, i would be happy with it too.
 
Also iam waiting for the Eiswolf 2 AiO if it will cover the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 08:42:31 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 


The thing that I'm looking at the KPE 3090 for is the ability to do more fine grain tuning of the voltages beyond what the FTW3 is capable of.  KPE should have a software tool (in addition to the hardware EVBot control) to tune those settings not just on a slider.  That won't be the same for the FTW3.  That and the OLED on the KPE is pretty sweet.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 08:49:51 (permalink)
Yeah the xoc bios along with the kingpin classified tool for voltages is great. Of course only useful if using chiller, ln2 or dice though.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 08:50:45 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 


The thing that I'm looking at the KPE 3090 for is the ability to do more fine grain tuning of the voltages beyond what the FTW3 is capable of.  KPE should have a software tool (in addition to the hardware EVBot control) to tune those settings not just on a slider.  That won't be the same for the FTW3.  That and the OLED on the KPE is pretty sweet.


I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 10:01:00 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 


The thing that I'm looking at the KPE 3090 for is the ability to do more fine grain tuning of the voltages beyond what the FTW3 is capable of.  KPE should have a software tool (in addition to the hardware EVBot control) to tune those settings not just on a slider.  That won't be the same for the FTW3.  That and the OLED on the KPE is pretty sweet.


The oled is sick. I had the classified tool and my 2080ti kpe got crapped on by my 2080ti ftw3 ultra. The classified tool is nice if you are using dice, ln2, chiller, but strictly on water 500w was the max my card would go before down clocking 2225 was max boost I could get on the kpe and the ftw3 was crapping on it at 2160ish
post edited by nova496 - 2020/11/12 10:06:46
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 10:43:50 (permalink)
Though extremely unlikely, has anyone ever considered that companies might have limited release numbers available for purchase just to drive up the interest. But, then turn around and sell them discreetly as no-name "scalpers". No, I am not accusing EVGA or anyone else. It was just a thought I had recently.
 
Semi-related, I think the queue system is awesome. As a 50 year old working adult, I don't have time to watch day and night for availability, just occasionally on my lunch break as I am now.
I had emailed them a while back if I could pre-order a card. I wasn't asking to jump in line, I just wanted to know that at some point, a day, week, or month(s), that my card would come in. Kind of a buy it and forget it. The queue resolves most of that though the 8 hour window was hard to hit. I think also the email should have a decline button, as well as a "decline for now, but put me back in the queue" option. I applaud EVGA for taking even this basic step to reduce scalping some.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 11:03:19 (permalink)
Looks like the EVGA XR1 Capture Device was added for Elite members at ~12:35-ish, still no KPE though.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 12:20:15 (permalink)
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Looks like the EVGA XR1 Capture Device was added for Elite members at ~12:35-ish, still no KPE though.




As soon as I saw EVGA Tweet something that said "Elite" I almost imploded. But... It was for the XR1. Side not on the XR1. It would have been more popular if it supported [link=mailto:1440@144Hz+]1440@144Hz+[/link] pass through. I know it's external but I don't think that was a good move on their part. I don't see that pass through supported anywhere on the page. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 12:29:30 (permalink)
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lol dont get all the hype honestly my last kingpin got crapped on with a waterblock vs a ftw3 ultra 2080ti waterblock. yeah the kingpin was showing 480watts while the ftw3 was doing 400w and it was no contest hope the first batch is the supreme overclockers because it seemed longer you waited the less great of a card you got.
 
and yes the kpe is a ln2 card. and no i didnt use a chiller yeah they are sick to have but if you're not ln2 then they're pretty much pointless.





Well that's unfortunate. I assumed it would do pretty well without exotic cooling. Was that just your experience? Or was that normal?
Makes me wonder how well the 3090 Strix would do on just a block. The Strix seems like a pretty strong card. EVGA had a lot longer to do some internal bin testing with a larger sample size with the 20 series since the KPE came out much later for that gen, I wonder how that would impact the potential silicon quality for the 30 series KPE.   

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 12:29:36 (permalink)
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Though extremely unlikely, has anyone ever considered that companies might have limited release numbers available for purchase just to drive up the interest. But, then turn around and sell them discreetly as no-name "scalpers". No, I am not accusing EVGA or anyone else. It was just a thought I had recently.
 
Semi-related, I think the queue system is awesome. As a 50 year old working adult, I don't have time to watch day and night for availability, just occasionally on my lunch break as I am now.
I had emailed them a while back if I could pre-order a card. I wasn't asking to jump in line, I just wanted to know that at some point, a day, week, or month(s), that my card would come in. Kind of a buy it and forget it. The queue resolves most of that though the 8 hour window was hard to hit. I think also the email should have a decline button, as well as a "decline for now, but put me back in the queue" option. I applaud EVGA for taking even this basic step to reduce scalping some.




Reality doesn't quite work like that. Businesses do not benefit from holding onto cards since every day they aren't selling products is a day they're losing sales and therefore profits. Scalpers were likely profiteers like those that bragged on Twitter about flipping them, not anything more than that. MSI did have that known incident, but it was likely an unintentional consequence of a large corporate bureaucracy. Proof being the account being an official subsidiary that sells products that normally sell as what EVGA calls "B Stock" on this site.
Also, as time goes on interest declines. Interest for a new tech product is highest at launch, period. Technology depreciates quickly over time.
As for the queue system being great, it 100% is. I got notice and ordered a 3080 FTW3 Ultra today (signed up at launch). Hoping to upgrade down the line, but my 980 Ti has been needing an upgrade for a year.
Good luck in the queue and hope you get a card!


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 12:57:18 (permalink)
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Well iam not "so" hyped tbh but i tested some Cards already and i know that i want a 3090 that has good performance while stays as quiet as possible.




i snagged a 3090 ftw3 ultra and honestly ill probably just throw a block on it. would it be sick to get a hydrocopper kpe yeah it would but honestly. on water i dont know if its going to really push things much harder if the ftw3 had a block on it as well. 


The thing that I'm looking at the KPE 3090 for is the ability to do more fine grain tuning of the voltages beyond what the FTW3 is capable of.  KPE should have a software tool (in addition to the hardware EVBot control) to tune those settings not just on a slider.  That won't be the same for the FTW3.  That and the OLED on the KPE is pretty sweet.


The oled is sick. I had the classified tool and my 2080ti kpe got crapped on by my 2080ti ftw3 ultra. The classified tool is nice if you are using dice, ln2, chiller, but strictly on water 500w was the max my card would go before down clocking 2225 was max boost I could get on the kpe and the ftw3 was crapping on it at 2160ish



Have you seen the new ? It looks like it's opening up the door to mainstream TEC cooling, which I would totally be down for, but sadly, even if the tech does get popular, we almost definitely won't see any pre-built block for this generation of KPE.
 
That being said, I do have a Caselabs STH-10 with a 480x120x80mm alphacool nexxxos monsta rad, and can easily fit another two in the case plus a 420x140x80mm in the front, but I'm guessing that the major bottleneck would be water flow rather than radiator surface area for that kind of heat 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 13:24:39 (permalink)
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I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.


The classified tool renders it pretty much useless and the EVBot caused alot of issues with nvidia. I know a few XOC guys that have them and dont use them.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 14:16:22 (permalink)
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I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.


The classified tool renders it pretty much useless and the EVBot caused alot of issues with nvidia. I know a few XOC guys that have them and dont use them.


Why do you never see them for sale if they suck
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 14:18:47 (permalink)
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Have you seen the new ? It looks like it's opening up the door to mainstream TEC cooling, which I would totally be down for, but sadly, even if the tech does get popular, we almost definitely won't see any pre-built block for this generation of KPE.
 
That being said, I do have a Caselabs STH-10 with a 480x120x80mm alphacool nexxxos monsta rad, and can easily fit another two in the case plus a 420x140x80mm in the front, but I'm guessing that the major bottleneck would be water flow rather than radiator surface area for that kind of heat 




I saw the new EKWB block with it built in.  Piqued my interest, and would definitely be fun to play around with.  I'd be totally be interested for one on a GPU.  The only thing that scared me was the possibility for condensation.  But looks like Intel thought of that and built in some safeguards.  If I hadn't had just upgraded my CPU block to an Optimus Signature, I'd be considering picking one up.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 14:30:54 (permalink)
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Have you seen the new ? It looks like it's opening up the door to mainstream TEC cooling, which I would totally be down for, but sadly, even if the tech does get popular, we almost definitely won't see any pre-built block for this generation of KPE.
 
That being said, I do have a Caselabs STH-10 with a 480x120x80mm alphacool nexxxos monsta rad, and can easily fit another two in the case plus a 420x140x80mm in the front, but I'm guessing that the major bottleneck would be water flow rather than radiator surface area for that kind of heat 




I saw the new EKWB block with it built in.  Piqued my interest, and would definitely be fun to play around with.  I'd be totally be interested for one on a GPU.  The only thing that scared me was the possibility for condensation.  But looks like Intel thought of that and built in some safeguards.  If I hadn't had just upgraded my CPU block to an Optimus Signature, I'd be considering picking one up.


Def has my interest too. I've very interested and excited to see what the future of Tec/Cryo cooling might bring to the PC market. Hopefully it doesn't fall off and we get some fun options to play around with. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 15:04:32 (permalink)
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Have you seen the new ? It looks like it's opening up the door to mainstream TEC cooling, which I would totally be down for, but sadly, even if the tech does get popular, we almost definitely won't see any pre-built block for this generation of KPE.
 
That being said, I do have a Caselabs STH-10 with a 480x120x80mm alphacool nexxxos monsta rad, and can easily fit another two in the case plus a 420x140x80mm in the front, but I'm guessing that the major bottleneck would be water flow rather than radiator surface area for that kind of heat 




I saw the new EKWB block with it built in.  Piqued my interest, and would definitely be fun to play around with.  I'd be totally be interested for one on a GPU.  The only thing that scared me was the possibility for condensation.  But looks like Intel thought of that and built in some safeguards.  If I hadn't had just upgraded my CPU block to an Optimus Signature, I'd be considering picking one up.


Def has my interest too. I've very interested and excited to see what the future of Tec/Cryo cooling might bring to the PC market. Hopefully it doesn't fall off and we get some fun options to play around with. 




The interesting thing to me is that liquid cooling a TEC plate used to actually be more of a thing many years ago, but died off. I would also be worried about condensation, and I feel like intel does have the right direction with their design.
 
I've also always been interested in phase-change cooling a mineral oil submerged PC to completely eliminate the pesky issue of condensation.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 15:09:09 (permalink)
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I've also always been interested in phase-change cooling a mineral oil submerged PC to completely eliminate the pesky issue of condensation.




That's always been an idea in the back of my head too, but my wife already questions me pouring water in my giant Caselabs case. A huge fishtank on the desk with PC parts submerged in it would have her lock me in the room with the computer.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 15:13:40 (permalink)
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That's always been an idea in the back of my head too, but my wife already questions me pouring water in my giant Caselabs case.



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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 16:40:47 (permalink)
@EVGA will there be an EVBot firmware update to use it with this card?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 18:34:46 (permalink)
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I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.


The classified tool renders it pretty much useless and the EVBot caused alot of issues with nvidia. I know a few XOC guys that have them and dont use them.


Why do you never see them for sale if they suck




Nvidia came hammering down on the EVBot when the GPUs weren't voltage regulated as people would push them all pretty good that had EVPorts several years ago.  I still got mine and thought about selling it for a gazillion but figured I'd never get my hands on one yet and I feel it's a nice collectable piece to have or I can pop my 780 Classifieds HC and use it again or any other new GPU with a EVPort.

I think the Kingpins still come with one but do the FTW3s get a EVPort too?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 19:32:14 (permalink)
Nice, I would like to have one to play with on my KP cards. As far as I know they only work with the KP and old classified stuff. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 22:06:52 (permalink)
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I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.


The classified tool renders it pretty much useless and the EVBot caused alot of issues with nvidia. I know a few XOC guys that have them and dont use them.


Why do you never see them for sale if they suck




Nvidia came hammering down on the EVBot when the GPUs weren't voltage regulated as people would push them all pretty good that had EVPorts several years ago.  I still got mine and thought about selling it for a gazillion but figured I'd never get my hands on one yet and I feel it's a nice collectable piece to have or I can pop my 780 Classifieds HC and use it again or any other new GPU with a EVPort.

I think the Kingpins still come with one but do the FTW3s get a EVPort too?


Only the kingpin cards as far as I know.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 22:41:30 (permalink)
How do I recognize an EVPort? Got a 3090 FT3 Ultra here.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/12 23:00:41 (permalink)
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Only the kingpin cards as far as I know.

 
Good to know.  Thx!


Runzelpunzel
How do I recognize an EVPort? Got a 3090 FT3 Ultra here.


It's the black port circled in yellow in the image below.
 
(GTX 1080 Ti Kingpin)

 
(RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin) (Port #5)

 
Here's an image of my previous system with the EVBot in all her glory with two red EV Cables connected to two GTX 780 Classified Hydro Coppers. 
 
Clearly she's the center piece of the show. 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/13 02:24:55 (permalink)
Oi, are we showing system pics? ;) Nice one btw!
 
Unfortunately I'm not (yet) allowed to post/link pics. :(
 
And no, the FTW3 doesn't have that connector, RGB and fan only. 
 
EDIT: now file attachments seem to work...Ultra in Lian Li Desk Case, missing a GPU waterblock though 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/13 06:01:04 (permalink)
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I agree that having the ability to fine tuning capability through evbot is sweet. I wonder why EVGA doesn't make another run of evbots. A limited edition Kingpin evbot with the oled display would probably sell out.


The classified tool renders it pretty much useless and the EVBot caused alot of issues with nvidia. I know a few XOC guys that have them and dont use them.


Why do you never see them for sale if they suck


I never said they suck. I said they were rendered useless with classified tool. Someone already outlined the rest of it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/13 06:43:15 (permalink)
So after skimming through five pages of soap opera, was there ever an update on a launch date?
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