I know I was having troubles with the right thickness thermal pads so I think something isn't touching enough as the stock pads are 2.85mm and putty

I think imma hold off on playing with it until my optimus waterblock comes in..... but I can tell you the core runs much cooler with the thermal grizzly extreme lol.... ya the 100 bucks a tub stuff.... the core is slower at heating up but also cools down so much faster as well

ninshoo

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If I understood correctly the fact of completely bypassing the resistance of the PCIE slot with a wire, let the card take the watts it needs without exceeding 80W? Self-regulation? I do not understand too much, we read everywhere that it should not exceed 120W but the fact of the total shunt should normally result in no regulation outside the if.

The card won't exceed 120W through the PCIE port if the other shunts don't have a low enough resistance, so the 8 pins aren't allowed to exceed a certain amount,  because regardless of how much you shunt PCIE, there's still a ratio involved.
 
From what I've seen, usually the shunt with the highest resistance winds up determining what you can draw, with some sort of balancing going on with the others.
 
In fact, if you shunt PCIE with so little resistance that it winds up reporting 10W at load, while the 8 pins report 100W, you're *still* going to throttle via 'PWR' limit, because the gap between PCIE and 8 pins is too high!  So the SRC (most likely it comes from the SRC) triggers a throttle flag.
 
We already saw this on Dante'afk's shunt mod when he shorted the -top- of the stacked PCIE slot shunt (an 8 mOhm shunt stacked on the default 5 mOhm) with solder, which literally brought down the resistance of the entire PCIE slot shunt down to <2 mOhms.  Since slot shunt is also linked to MVDDC and SRC, this triggered an artificial throttle flag, because the 8 pins were reporting way out of balance now.  So yes the shunts need to be balanced.
 
The purpose of shorting everything with 10 mOhms, for example, except the PCIE slot shunt with 15 mOhms instead, is so that you still gain power, but now the PCIE slot will throttle you when it reaches 79.9W, while staying below 120W real power draw for the fuse, while the other shunts can draw what they need (but still PCIE slot will be the limiter).

ninshoo

Cool GTX

pellaaa

slovak_killer
Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. 
On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
 

whats the point of this mod??

To VOID your warranty ... but allow more power to flow ...

Its total shunt?!

shunt mod that allows 1000W power limit.
BTW great moderator COOL GTX, I wouldnt have to void my warranty (with shunt mod) if your great brand was properly supporting XOCers by sending them stuff needed for LN2, maybe like proper bios ? So please use your words wisely.

slovak_killer
 
shunt mod that allows 1000W power limit.
BTW great moderator COOL GTX, I wouldnt have to void my warranty (with shunt mod) if your great brand was properly supporting XOCers by sending them stuff needed for LN2, maybe like proper bios ? So please use your words wisely.

 
 
Seems like that was exactly what he/she did (using wise words).  What you are advocating is not any better than what that knucklehead Framechaser guy did.  If you were looking for such a card, then why not get the Kingpin...
 
I wonder just what percentage of users actually use LN2 anyway?  Extremely low I would guess.  Maybe .0001 percent.

Turbo-12R

slovak_killer
 
shunt mod that allows 1000W power limit.
BTW great moderator COOL GTX, I wouldnt have to void my warranty (with shunt mod) if your great brand was properly supporting XOCers by sending them stuff needed for LN2, maybe like proper bios ? So please use your words wisely.

 
 
Seems like that was exactly what he/she did (using wise words).  What you are advocating is not any better than what that knucklehead Framechaser guy did.  If you were looking for such a card, then why not get the Kingpin...
 
I wonder just what percentage of users actually use LN2 anyway?  Extremely low I would guess.  Maybe .0001 percent.

Your loop hole is that I actually tested the card for weeks with other possible solutions other than just straight up shunting PCIE. What u dont understand is that there is ftw3 xoc bios, so why not help fellow XOCers who couldnt get KP card hmm ? 
Problem of this moderator is that hes having fun about my warranty but he doesnt realise the shunt mod I did is not just for 1000W xoc power limit but also to fix the card in general, my card has (had) hardlimit at 400W and wouldnt pull more in 3D (timespy etc) which is under spec of this card set by EVGA.
And lastly, youre saying LN2 XOCers are very small minority right ? Then whats the problem with helping few guys with FTW3s on ln2 :) Im not saying they should share LN2 1000W bios for all ftw3 users, Im ready to sign NDA and not share that bios

drunknfoo

slovak_killer

Turbo-12R

slovak_killer
 
shunt mod that allows 1000W power limit.
BTW great moderator COOL GTX, I wouldnt have to void my warranty (with shunt mod) if your great brand was properly supporting XOCers by sending them stuff needed for LN2, maybe like proper bios ? So please use your words wisely.

 
 
Seems like that was exactly what he/she did (using wise words).  What you are advocating is not any better than what that knucklehead Framechaser guy did.  If you were looking for such a card, then why not get the Kingpin...
 
I wonder just what percentage of users actually use LN2 anyway?  Extremely low I would guess.  Maybe .0001 percent.

Your loop hole is that I actually tested the card for weeks with other possible solutions other than just straight up shunting PCIE. What u dont understand is that there is ftw3 xoc bios, so why not help fellow XOCers who couldnt get KP card hmm ? 
Problem of this moderator is that hes having fun about my warranty but he doesnt realise the shunt mod I did is not just for 1000W xoc power limit but also to fix the card in general, my card has (had) hardlimit at 400W and wouldnt pull more in 3D (timespy etc) which is under spec of this card set by EVGA.
And lastly, youre saying LN2 XOCers are very small minority right ? Then whats the problem with helping few guys with FTW3s on ln2 :) Im not saying they should share LN2 1000W bios for all ftw3 users, Im ready to sign NDA and not share that bios

Think you are better off just shunting if you havent already if going ln2, bearded lhardware (joe) stated he even went back to the strix for a time cause the bios he received was limited (he had a production ftw3)... (I assume problematic)

I sent a request for the said bios, i got sent a varient of a 450w and couldnt help but lol

I rly dont wanna do any brand comparing but honestly I wanna know whats the problem ? I still like EVGA, X299 Dark is great mobo, my pots are all Kingpin (F1, tek9 fat) but rly wanna know why I cant get NDA stuff for my FTW3.. 
During 2080Ti era I PMed MSI Rep that I want NDA stuff for my MSI Card and I got back special LN2 bios, abx, ln2 guide without any hassle... Why cant EVGA do the same, I wonder, I rly only need that 1000+W bios nothing else. 

changboy
Last month i got 10x 8 mohm panasonic, is this can work as the 5 mohm, i belive the card wont see really a difference and maybe its better with 8 then 5 for value ? TDP will get less difference ? 

Tdp is tdp... Those will work fine

changboy
drunknfoo do you think you will do some mod on yours ? I didnt decide if i will do it in same time i will put my ek waterblock.

I have done my own with various resistences, along with 6 other 30series cards

came home and took apart the card again... beginning to be pro at this! But found some of the thermal pads not compressing well... added a .5mm strip and test ran time spy..... 460w ish average and was able to get a 170mhz 1200mhz in Port but my frames are bouncing 10fps at least... sigh just gonna give up and wait for my blocks....

slovak_killer
I did a video of my shunt modding if someone is interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ9Ikwuashk

This is a VERY GOOD video!!!
I think I understand exactly what you do here.
1) add flux on top of original shunt silver edge conductive points.
2) use solder wire, with solder gun, melt and it will go onto the flux, making the higher bump for the new shunt to sit on.
3) Apply flux on new solder joint on each end.
4) apply new shunt on top of the flux/solder joint.
5) hold the new shunt in place with Engineer tweezers and melt the solder under it so it attaches to the solder/flux.
 
I have a question for you, Slovak
What was that material you used to "Wipe" the shunt and PCB, with the Q-tip, after the soldering? 
 
Also,
How did you solder the shunt that was right next to the giant choke, and the fuse?  There seems to be so little room...
Is it the flux that helps?

yes tinning is always good practice
 
tin all contact points, place resistor in position,  i apply thin layer of smd solder paste then tap paste with iron creating the joints

drunknfoo
yes tinning is always good practice
 
tin all contact points, place resistor in position,  i apply thin layer of smd solder paste then tap paste with iron creating the joints

is "tinning" the same thing as flux?

Kylearan

drunknfoo
yes tinning is always good practice
 
tin all contact points, place resistor in position,  i apply thin layer of smd solder paste then tap paste with iron creating the joints

is "tinning" the same thing as flux?

tinning is a term for prepping the contacts or coating with solder prior to connecting the joint. As well tinning the iron or head is also good practice.

komicaaa
metro is a beast benchmark game
my card is made in taiwan too
 
never seen the clock before and no crash for 30min played
turn off dlss and finally got over 500w @4k in game

85W pcie doesnt seem healthy