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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 08:37:43
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also I do think it is something with balance on my card..... Pin 1 never goes about 118-120w and pins2 and 3 have hit 150w+ that also could be the problem with the PerfCap pwr I am having also
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 08:38:44
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Are people really gaining over the 1950 without crashing
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 08:54:47
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 10:08:44
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Thnks, works perfect on strix :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 10:19:30
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ComicBookAssassin Are people really gaining over the 1950 without crashing
I am working on my daily stable. Current over 1hr stable settings are generating a Port Royal of 14405. +750mem/+130core/+30voltage/maxtemp:58C@20C ambient: 14405 (fan curve stock, filter quality high performance) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54351435
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 10:46:48
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What are people hitting without the bios as I don’t think this bios is available for the black ultra
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 12:24:02
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Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
post edited by slovak_killer - 2020/12/06 12:27:15
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 12:26:01
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Mathieas
ComicBookAssassin Are people really gaining over the 1950 without crashing
I am working on my daily stable. Current over 1hr stable settings are generating a Port Royal of 14405.
+750mem/+130core/+30voltage/maxtemp:58C@20C ambient: 14405 (fan curve stock, filter quality high performance) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54351435
I was messing around last night and got my highest PR score to date. I'm happy that I finally broke 14k (just barely), but have struggled to do so, and I highly doubt the settings I used to do so are stable for gaming...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 12:41:16
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slovak_killer Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
How many shunts did you short? was there any you left untouched? I think there are 7 on our cards. What was it you did? Was that just a wire soldered across the shunts?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 12:46:33
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slovak_killer Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
How many shunts did you short? was there any you left untouched? I think there are 7 on our cards. What was it you did? Was that just a wire soldered across the shunts?
4 shunts in total, 3 main 8pin shunts and pcie. For 8pins we used 5mohm piggyback shunts For pcie just that wire. Rest is untouched
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 12:49:08
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cerealkeller
slovak_killer Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
How many shunts did you short? was there any you left untouched? I think there are 7 on our cards. What was it you did? Was that just a wire soldered across the shunts?
4 shunts in total, 3 main 8pin shunts and pcie. For 8pins we used 5mohm piggyback shunts For pcie just that wire. Rest is untouched
Do you have a pic of the 8 pin shunts you shorted? I'm just trying to verify which are the correct ones.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 13:16:39
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so let's throw some more **** is going on into this...... I just changed the thermal paste and the pads on my board and.... NOW in time spy it runs somewhere around 450-470w and peaks into the 490+!! but something else is going on now I think something doesn't have good contact with the thermal pads somewhere on a mem chip because my old OC numbers are making the FPS in port go all over the place!!! just imagine that the problem the whole time has been with there thermal paste and pads.... imma LOL if when I do my WB there are no problems Just food for thought into this whole problem... while I mess around and try to see what my problem is
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 13:29:37
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ComicBookAssassin What are people hitting without the bios as I don’t think this bios is available for the black ultra
I have a thread of my OC test record. All results were achieved using stock bios and stock hybrid cooler. Some runs have 100% fan speed and are noted, otherwise stock fan profile. https://forums.evga.com/m..aspx?m=3163459&fp=3TLDR: Max Port Royal: Memory +1100/Core+175/voltage+45: 14643 Maxtemp: 55C (fans at max and high performance filters) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54235724 Game stable: +750mem/+130core/+30voltage/maxtemp:58C@20C ambient: 14405 (fan curve stock, filter quality high performance) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54351435
post edited by Mathieas - 2020/12/06 13:33:11
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:04:41
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slovak_killer Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
How many shunts did you short? was there any you left untouched? I think there are 7 on our cards. What was it you did? Was that just a wire soldered across the shunts?
4 shunts in total, 3 main 8pin shunts and pcie. For 8pins we used 5mohm piggyback shunts For pcie just that wire. Rest is untouched
Do you have a pic of the 8 pin shunts you shorted? I'm just trying to verify which are the correct ones.
Based on continuity... Very top is pin 1 Left 2 in the 'group of 4' is to pin 2 Right 2 in the 'group of 4' is to pin 3 Mid bottom is src directly associated with some but not all (i cant recall, definately pin 3 and maybe pin 2 and pcie) youd need to check to confirm...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:05:55
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Just updated bios to 500w and i can barely even break 450w on the taiwan card. My max TDP also was 109% even though i have power target set to 119%. Within GPUZ my perfcap reason appears to be solely PWR. This is also a taiwan card with tweaked fan speed. So far i have only raised CPU Clock
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:06:04
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slovak_killer Did the shunt mod today, first we tried only 8pins shunt mod, still got PWR perfcap even when reading very low values, after that we tried shunt modding also PCIE, this fixed the card and never saw PWR perfcap again, unfortunately this is only possible fix. On the screenshot u can see full load timespy run 2100mhz, PCIE readings maxed out at 17W and some rails even bugged out at 0W. Can confirm now card can full boost, no downclocking or undervolting, EVER !
How much resistence was that wire?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:11:12
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Slovak, what sort of wire did you use on PCIE? It's barely reporting any resistance at all...that's gotta be like 2 or 3 mOhms total... What about the PCIE slot fuse? How did you manage to deal with that? It will blow if you exceed 120W through slot...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:16:27
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PadinnPlays I got my RMA card (3090, 2014 series, black accents) since my old one blew something. This one does peak at close to 500w in Superposition 8k. Temperatures around 82c and I'm drawing near 700w total per my kilowatt, so its working better. Wasn't a sustained 500, but definitely better than my original card.
Your card is way too warm. Did you leave your fans on default? My max temp in SP 8K is 61C (fans at 90%) and the score is 7852. The power draw is below 450W.
Im also in Florida. Fans were at max I think.. Part of it is likely my case (Fractal design s2 rgb) and I have a capture card/wvga nu audio pro below the gpu. This was with no oc and voltage bump enabled.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:27:54
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Kylearan Slovak, what sort of wire did you use on PCIE? It's barely reporting any resistance at all...that's gotta be like 2 or 3 mOhms total... What about the PCIE slot fuse? How did you manage to deal with that? It will blow if you exceed 120W through slot... [/quote At 2.85mohm total resistence the fuse holds fine. I havent tested lower... worst case, short the fuse or replace with another.... But im curious how low his pcie is
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:37:23
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PadinnPlays I got my RMA card (3090, 2014 series, black accents) since my old one blew something. This one does peak at close to 500w in Superposition 8k. Temperatures around 82c and I'm drawing near 700w total per my kilowatt, so its working better. Wasn't a sustained 500, but definitely better than my original card.
Your card is way too warm. Did you leave your fans on default? My max temp in SP 8K is 61C (fans at 90%) and the score is 7852. The power draw is below 450W.
Im also in Florida. Fans were at max I think.. Part of it is likely my case (Fractal design s2 rgb) and I have a capture card/wvga nu audio pro below the gpu. This was with no oc and voltage bump enabled. My bad, forgot I was on my alt account on mobile. This is same person :) I just ran Timespy and did break 500w briefly. Next run peaked at 484.7w, this was with all fans (system included) set to max, +100v, +125/500.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 14:50:06
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PadinnPlays I got my RMA card (3090, 2014 series, black accents) since my old one blew something. This one does peak at close to 500w in Superposition 8k. Temperatures around 82c and I'm drawing near 700w total per my kilowatt, so its working better. Wasn't a sustained 500, but definitely better than my original card.
Your card is way too warm. Did you leave your fans on default? My max temp in SP 8K is 61C (fans at 90%) and the score is 7852. The power draw is below 450W.
Here is a run with all fans at maximum (including case fans and CPU radiator fans), I can't remember if I did that first time. I am in Florida and my case is an S2 Design RBG, which has an EVGA NU Audio Pro and Avermedia capture card in slots below the GPU, so I am probably hotter than most due to these components. This is a pretty great score.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 15:11:49
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Looking for help. For some reason it doesnt appear that my voltage slider does anything. I was running a heaven in loop and had my gpu and memory clocks set. I had my voltage slider set at 100 and then slide it down and applied and it made no difference. I then tried it the other way and it made no difference either. This is on the 500w OC bios. I am barely seeing 450w but most of the time it is an average of around 420-430W. I tried various versions of previous but i did my recent testing in V1.1.2. I also tested MSI afterburner and the slider was greyed out regardless of which option i chose for card. I was monitoring GPUz and could not see any difference in voltages.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 16:46:16
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anotheraznguy Looking for help. For some reason it doesnt appear that my voltage slider does anything. I was running a heaven in loop and had my gpu and memory clocks set. I had my voltage slider set at 100 and then slide it down and applied and it made no difference. I then tried it the other way and it made no difference either. This is on the 500w OC bios. I am barely seeing 450w but most of the time it is an average of around 420-430W. I tried various versions of previous but i did my recent testing in V1.1.2. I also tested MSI afterburner and the slider was greyed out regardless of which option i chose for card. I was monitoring GPUz and could not see any difference in voltages.
The voltage slider doesn't change the voltage. It isn't what you're thinking it does like on Radeons. It sets a threshold where you can use a higher V/F tier, which will be +15 mhz core clock at the next set of voltage points for that core clock. So it basically overclocks your core by 15 mhz without shifting up the entire graph, so a new set of voltage points get used for that +15 mhz (usually 1.081v to 1.10v). Whether it gets used or not depends on the current shape of the V/F curve and also on some unknown temperature or other requirement criteria.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 18:56:30
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Kylearan Slovak, what sort of wire did you use on PCIE? It's barely reporting any resistance at all...that's gotta be like 2 or 3 mOhms total... What about the PCIE slot fuse? How did you manage to deal with that? It will blow if you exceed 120W through slot...
PCIE fuse is untouched, looks like 10A fuse so 120W limit. The wire should have high enough resistance dont know why its reporting so low, its weird, u can see bugged behaviour also on SRC/MVVDDC which are reporting 0W despite not being shunted.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 19:08:42
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Kylearan Slovak, what sort of wire did you use on PCIE? It's barely reporting any resistance at all...that's gotta be like 2 or 3 mOhms total... What about the PCIE slot fuse? How did you manage to deal with that? It will blow if you exceed 120W through slot...
PCIE fuse is untouched, looks like 10A fuse so 120W limit. The wire should have high enough resistance dont know why its reporting so low, its weird, u can see bugged behaviour also on SRC/MVVDDC which are reporting 0W despite not being shunted.
That wire is definitely low resistance. Current travels through the point of least resistance and that wire is the most direct path. If you have a 5 mOhm shunt on the 8 pins (2x multiplier), that looks like that wire is acting like a 2 mohm shunt or even LOWER, on PCIE slot (3.5x multiplier). PCIE slot and MVDCC are linked PCIE and SRC may or may not be linked (drunknfoo couldn't find continuity when he checked). MVDDC and SRC? beats me.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 19:47:01
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Kylearan Slovak, what sort of wire did you use on PCIE? It's barely reporting any resistance at all...that's gotta be like 2 or 3 mOhms total... What about the PCIE slot fuse? How did you manage to deal with that? It will blow if you exceed 120W through slot...
PCIE fuse is untouched, looks like 10A fuse so 120W limit. The wire should have high enough resistance dont know why its reporting so low, its weird, u can see bugged behaviour also on SRC/MVVDDC which are reporting 0W despite not being shunted.
That wire is definitely low resistance. Current travels through the point of least resistance and that wire is the most direct path. If you have a 5 mOhm shunt on the 8 pins (2x multiplier), that looks like that wire is acting like a 2 mohm shunt or even LOWER, on PCIE slot (3.5x multiplier). PCIE slot and MVDCC are linked PCIE and SRC may or may not be linked (drunknfoo couldn't find continuity when he checked). MVDDC and SRC? beats me.
Dont know about the links between rails, will have to check that probably, just guessing. PCIE should be safe, tried pushing the card rly hard on water, 1083mv fullboost 2100mhz timespy extreme etc and fuse was fine.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 22:23:07
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Sorry if this has been brought up. But my PC was hitting 500w fine but lately it rarely gets over 450. Did the latest driver possibly change something? I haven’t touched the bios (still on OC) and can’t think of anything else I might have done. China card here.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 22:41:50
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Xoc bios doesnt seem to anything for me unfortunately. Tried every version of px1, afterburner with different bios's and all the same result. Always pwr limited regardless of temperature. My card isnt functioning like the ones reportedly having no problems with xoc.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/06 23:40:57
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Barrok Sorry if this has been brought up. But my PC was hitting 500w fine but lately it rarely gets over 450. Did the latest driver possibly change something? I haven’t touched the bios (still on OC) and can’t think of anything else I might have done. China card here.
I haven't heard anything, but you could roll the driver back to see if it makes a difference.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/07 02:35:43
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Mathieas
ComicBookAssassin What are people hitting without the bios as I don’t think this bios is available for the black ultra
I have a thread of my OC test record. All results were achieved using stock bios and stock hybrid cooler. Some runs have 100% fan speed and are noted, otherwise stock fan profile.
https://forums.evga.com/m..aspx?m=3163459&fp=3
TLDR: Max Port Royal: Memory +1100/Core+175/voltage+45: 14643 Maxtemp: 55C (fans at max and high performance filters) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54235724
Game stable: +750mem/+130core/+30voltage/maxtemp:58C@20C ambient: 14405 (fan curve stock, filter quality high performance) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54351435
Wow, how could you get such a low maxtemp ? Mine were over 67C with average 60. All 8 Fans were on full speed and aggressive fan curve for gpu. ( https://www.3dmark.com/pr/596573).
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