orkan
Just watched gamers nexus rip this trash to pieces. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuimvlNraLM
 
.... now it all is starting to make sense. 
 
Nice job EVGA... cudos to you. I'll sit here with my clown makup on. You got me. I was an EVGA fanboy... and you got me. 

I would tweet GamersNexus on twitter and see if they can look into this. If this gets newsworthy it'll be acknowledged. #FTW3Gate :'(

The video is about the 3080 then is the 3090 have the same pcb ?

arestavo

orkan
Just watched gamers nexus rip this trash to pieces. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuimvlNraLM
 
.... now it all is starting to make sense. 
 
Nice job EVGA... cudos to you. I'll sit here with my clown makup on. You got me. I was an EVGA fanboy... and you got me. 

It's nice to see so many LN2 overclockers here. I had no clue that there were so many!
 
https://youtu.be/ZuimvlNraLM?t=1609

 
Most minor of details.  If it was a major detail, no one, except for LN2 users, would purchase the K|ngp|n cards since they are aimed at the LN2 crowd. 

bford2424
 
...Given now I have Fan#3 issues under fan curve settings 

https://forums.evga.com/E...-X1-v111-m3139620.aspx

orkan
Just watched gamers nexus rip this trash to pieces. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuimvlNraLM
 
.... now it all is starting to make sense. 
 
Nice job EVGA... cudos to you. I'll sit here with my clown makup on. You got me. I was an EVGA fanboy... and you got me. 

Not sure I'd call it trash or say he rips it apart... the short of it is simply - It's a reference design, nothing more.  it adds a bit more power stages that aren't really needed.  and if it would have had the upgraded controller and caps it probably would have had glowing reviews, however the dilemma is it would equal the kingpin in performanced.
 
two things I did take away, even if they upgraded the components he didn't like - you are only talking 40 mhz... so that's not "EPIC"  and he said it's a good card for those not trying to LN2 or fight for every mhz for benchmark records
 
And unless I missed it, he didn't say this card should have a physical power limit... so it appears this card could open up to more power with a bios update... the PCI limits this thread is continually referencing he didn't seem to acknowledge is actually an issue.   Did I miss it?

arestavo

orkan
3090's are still fast and everything... It's just sad to spend $2k thinking I was safe because it said EVGA on the box... only to be unable to sustain 2k+ core clocks with a 65c card... and watch other brand cards crush 2100mhz+ with what seems to be total ease. 
 
Disappointing... in a word. 

The silicon lottery hasn't changed, and at 65C you shouldn't expect amazing results anyways. Watercool that card!
 
My card runs around 70C under load and mid to high 1900Mhz. But it can take fairly insane offset clocks for the GPU core (+220) when benchmarking. I can't wait to get an AiO watercooling kit (NZXT or EVGA) to see what this sucker can do with lower temps. And yes, I am one of those that don't see more than 440W average power use no matter the VBIOS, game, benchmark, or stress test used (even at 4K+).

Yup, that's where I'm sitting while gaming (at 100% fans, +70 core +200 memory) at 65C.  I can't wait to get the Optimus block on....I mean at this point it won't matter what core I can achieve, the boost clock won't do anything while above 62C or so.

Ever since the RTX series started you pay a premium for a higher power limit. The reference cards are already beefy to begin with and more than capable of 450-500w+ without any major issues as long as cooling is sufficient.  And silicon lottery is always the deciding factor when it comes to what your card is capable of.  Some GPUs will be able to run at 2100+ at 1.093v, and some will be considerably less, it's just like buying a lottery ticket, hence the name.  You could have gotten a Strix with a little higher power limit, or if EVGA ever gets us a proper working 500w BIOS we will have 500w, which will technically put the FTW3 Ultra ahead in power limit.  Also, you can't really trust everything you read. Unless I hear from a trusted source, I automatically assume their definition of running 2100 MHz and mine are not the same.
 
It is weird that it seems like nobody tested that BIOS before releasing it to the public though, **** is up with that?  And why hasn't anybody from EVGA dropped in to acknowledge it?  Anyone on here friendly with a forum moderator who can push our issue?
I messaged Jacob, the Admin who posted the BIOS, hopefully he notices and replies to at least let us know they're working on it.

Yup. I'm in the top 20 in the world on timespy. but that was with ORIGINAL bios... Not the "default" one or the 500w one which is about 3 percent slower (either one).

Me i update to the beta bios but i forgot to save the bios on my card lol. Anyway they will put a new one soon and not beta we may all update i belive.
 
Anyway there not much difference.
 
I have 1 problem and its not related to the card i think,  when i try play far cry 5 i have bsod with error irlq les or equal and its with ntoskml.exe. Nor sure if is that but i didnt found yet how to repair this, i think i got this some time ago and forgot how to resolve this issue.
Another issue i have if when i want play the division 2 i need stop my asus rog live(lighting) or the anti cheat close the game. Ubisoft bring some bug with there game sometime andi dont have any of those issue with all other game....weird.

sirien
 Jacob is out there doing marketing and releasing new products and not addressing the thousands of complaints in this thread.

Unfixable problem = ignored

Should have bought the kingpin boys, fork over even more cash

 
Thousands?  I bet there are fewer than 50 users in this thread making posts to the negative effect.
 
Imagine going to buy a new C8 Corvette, which is advertised to have a top speed of 195mph.  Then imagine GM launches a performance air intake/exhaust upgrade that gives it an extra 20hp.  Suddenly, buyers are unhappy because their car does not gain an extra 10mph in top speed.  Silly?  The owner of that car has bought one of the best sports cars for 2020, yet they are upset because its not doing what they want it to do without physical modification.  What do you think GM's response would be...?
 
Sorry, I'm not trying to bust anyone's bubble.  I'm just being a realist.  I think for the vast majority of people owning this card there are no issues.  The hard core enthusiasts however may have a differing viewpoint.

LVNeptune

orkan
Just watched gamers nexus rip this trash to pieces. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuimvlNraLM
 
.... now it all is starting to make sense. 
 
Nice job EVGA... cudos to you. I'll sit here with my clown makup on. You got me. I was an EVGA fanboy... and you got me. 

I would tweet GamersNexus on twitter and see if they can look into this. If this gets newsworthy it'll be acknowledged. #FTW3Gate :'(

Hmm.. That is for a 3080 though but he raised some good points

jdmwrxpower
So here are my results. Today my 3090 FTW3 arrived this morning. For starters, I am using an EVGA Titanium 1600watt power supply. I pulled my custom cables out and placed in 3 of the factory cables not wanting to take any chances.
Booted up without any issue. I then ran DDU removed all the old drivers. Reboot, installed new drivers. I did not change the switch from normal to OC. I did not update the bios and I did not overclock. I've been using the card all day with Hitman, MK-X, AutoCAD, Revit all in 4k maxed on Ultra. I have not had one crash and never saw anything above 73c. This card is extremely stable and I know time will tell but I am comfortable moving forward in placing a water block on it for better thermals. I think we should not be overclocking the cards during their infancy and wait until a refined bios is achieved and drivers. 390Watts was the max I saw for a total draw and no more than 62watts on the PCI-e slot. So far at factory settings, it is equally performing to my Asus Tuf 3090
 
 
NVIDIA Driver Version: 457.30
GPU Bios Version: 94.02.26.48.15
 

 
Any chance of posting those screen shots in non-microscopic where we can see what they say?

"I think we should not be overclocking the cards during their infancy and wait until a refined bios is achieved and drivers."
 
I'm sorry but this is the dumbest take I've ever heard. EVGA is(was?) a premium AIB. The FTW3 is a premium SKU (over the XC3). The FTW3 Ultra is a premium sub-SKU over the FTW3 Gaming. (I will acknowledge the Kingpin also exists but imo that's another level with a price to match. ) The ONLY reason for purchasing is to push and tweak it to its max. EVGA regularly held OC challenges on the FTW3 ultra cards before, during, and after launch promoting its OC ability with their custom-designed OC software (PX1), and then went on to launch AND promote these 500w 'xoc' bios. The promotion happened across these forums and social media, and when online press picked up the release, EVGA re-published those news stories for further re-promotion of these BIOS. And they don't work. And they've gone radio silent. To pretend the issue is that we are doing something wrong by expecting a top-tier SKU to react favorably to overclocking, or for attempting to use a heavily-promoted BIOS that turned out to be more of a marketing ploy than a viable software upgrade, is a joke. 

 You can buy a asus strix rtx-3090 for 5000 on ebay hehehehe.

arcky
"I think we should not be overclocking the cards during their infancy and wait until a refined bios is achieved and drivers."
 
I'm sorry but this is the dumbest take I've ever heard. EVGA is(was?) a premium AIB. The FTW3 is a premium SKU (over the XC3). The FTW3 Ultra is a premium sub-SKU over the FTW3 Gaming. (I will acknowledge the Kingpin also exists but imo that's another level with a price to match. ) The ONLY reason for purchasing is to push and tweak it to its max. EVGA regularly held OC challenges on the FTW3 ultra cards before, during, and after launch promoting its OC ability with their custom-designed OC software (PX1), and then went on to launch AND promote these 500w 'xoc' bios. The promotion happened across these forums and social media, and when online press picked up the release, EVGA re-published those news stories for further re-promotion of these BIOS. And they don't work. And they've gone radio silent. To pretend the issue is that we are doing something wrong by expecting a top-tier SKU to react favorably to overclocking, or for attempting to use a heavily-promoted BIOS that turned out to be more of a marketing ploy than a viable software upgrade, is a joke. 

EVGA stated the new BIOS is only intended for the extreme overclocking user and further they do not guarantee the performance. The experience of an overclockers abilities is extremely subjective. My statement is far from dumb and I am not "pretending" I've watched people brick CPUs, GPUs and anything that can be bricked. Users do the "dumbest" things. I am an engineer is there is always a logical and methodical avenue to approach situations and perform objective tests. I understand you are upset with paying 1800 bucks for a card that performs the same as most base level 3090s but you need to be patient and keep in mind you didn't pay scalper prices. I want answers too and yes they are radio silent. There has to be a reason and I doubt they will stake their reputation on it unless they are planning to sell out which I doubt. We may hear answers after the Nexus and JayzTwoCents tournament on the 20th. Be patient, these cards are still new and every company performs some sort of PR campaign and of course they will get a top binned chip and false advertising is everywherea also known as "hype".....