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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 12:24:01 (permalink)
Thank you for the prompt reply. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to how you structured your warranty. Some people just like to have peace of mind that their product is covered for life, specially with a motherboard that costs as much as some peoples whole computer.  
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 12:33:57 (permalink)
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Thank you for the prompt reply. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to how you structured your warranty. Some people just like to have peace of mind that their product is covered for life, specially with a motherboard that costs as much as some peoples whole computer.  

For reference if you bought a board 10 years ago your looking at something like an Intel P5 running ~60-66Mhz. If you owned that system today and it broke would you RMA it?

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 12:39:07 (permalink)
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Mik3yD

Thank you for the prompt reply. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to how you structured your warranty. Some people just like to have peace of mind that their product is covered for life, specially with a motherboard that costs as much as some peoples whole computer.  

For reference if you bought a board 10 years ago your looking at something like an Intel P5 running ~60-66Mhz. If you owned that system today and it broke would you RMA it?

 
Depends how much i loved that p5 lol.

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 12:55:44 (permalink)
Will the SR-X at least support the 1.25/1.5/1.75x BCLK straps found on single-socket X79 boards? If so then there is at least some hope for record-breaking fun.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:05:40 (permalink)
Yeah I'm wondering if anyone can give us some rough idea of what to expect given the limitations of the chips.  Like what reasonable % oc can be had without the unlocked multi.

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:16:18 (permalink)
"Unlike earlier Xeons and SNB/SNB-E, we're sad to report that multiplier adjustment is disabled (BIOS values set to read only) and base clock straps are non-existent (frequency only goes up to ~108MHz) across the current stepping. We sure hope Chipzilla changes their mind (since traditionally it has never been obstructed, albeit not officially supported) or maniac SR-X overclockers/high frequency traders are going to be turned away."

 
Don't know where this comes from but does't look promesing on OCing
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:21:11 (permalink)
Any chance of making Ivy Bridge SR-x mobo with right angled port and symmetrical dimms?
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:28:34 (permalink)
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Well there are 2 parts to this question...

Does the board support OC'ing: Yes

Does the board support OC'ing on current CPU's? The answer unfortunately is no.

Current CPU's are multiplier locked, and they don't scale very high on bclock.

 
Any idea on time frame for CPU's that can be OC'd?

 
Rig specs coming soon...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:30:31 (permalink)
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I smell a waterblock coming...

Already will have at least 1 Buy <= points to my name :)

 
Rig specs coming soon...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:52:20 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Well there are 2 parts to this question...

Does the board support OC'ing: Yes

Does the board support OC'ing on current CPU's? The answer unfortunately is no.

Current CPU's are multiplier locked, and they don't scale very high on bclock.


Any idea on time frame for CPU's that can be OC'd?

 
How in the holy mother of god would EVGA know that?
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 13:58:40 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Well there are 2 parts to this question...

Does the board support OC'ing: Yes

Does the board support OC'ing on current CPU's? The answer unfortunately is no.

Current CPU's are multiplier locked, and they don't scale very high on bclock.


Any idea on time frame for CPU's that can be OC'd?


How in the holy mother of god would EVGA know that?

 
Actually, They probably wont :) But you can always ask and hope for the best. I mean in the off chance they hint at something related, Granted there are probably NDA's that prevent anything of that nature. I mean look at the current CPU selection for the 1366. I can only hope that there will be similar offerings throughout the life cycle of this new socket.  Just because it does not OC now does not mean it will never happen.

 
Rig specs coming soon...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:17:29 (permalink)
xeons are not enthusiast chips, the extreme edition i7's are. xeons are designed for stability and low power consumption, typical in a server environment or for use in highly threaded applications like rendering or doing simulations. I like the SRX but I'm still concerned about whether or not this board will suffer from issues the x79 series from evga did.

 



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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:19:25 (permalink)
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EVGA_JacobF

Well there are 2 parts to this question...

Does the board support OC'ing: Yes

Does the board support OC'ing on current CPU's? The answer unfortunately is no.

Current CPU's are multiplier locked, and they don't scale very high on bclock.


Any idea on time frame for CPU's that can be OC'd?


How in the holy mother of god would EVGA know that?

 
LOL I thought the same thing.





 
 
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:19:42 (permalink)
I'll wait for the first round of reviews before considering the board. The price is a bit out of my range. I think asus has something in the works as well. I saw the danshui bay concept a while back, looks like evga may have some competition brewing.

 



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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:50:52 (permalink)
Morty

"Unlike earlier Xeons and SNB/SNB-E, we're sad to report that multiplier adjustment is disabled (BIOS values set to read only) and base clock straps are non-existent (frequency only goes up to ~108MHz) across the current stepping. We sure hope Chipzilla changes their mind (since traditionally it has never been obstructed, albeit not officially supported) or maniac SR-X overclockers/high frequency traders are going to be turned away."


Don't know where this comes from but does't look promesing on OCing


Here 
 
That was on a stock Intel board though...perhaps the SR-X will be different.
I remember reading about OC'ing the ES 8-core Xeons on a single-socket board on HardForum, and it was not promising...even the 1.25x strap didn't work.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:51:52 (permalink)
Overclocking is limited by the CPUs, not the motherboard. Xeon E5 CPUs are both multiplier and BCLK strap locked.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 14:58:28 (permalink)
ECP will be available?
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 15:32:20 (permalink)
The SR-X doesn't support the E5-2687W?
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 15:36:31 (permalink)
Jeez, it sounds like a funeral in here instead of Thanking EVGA for going ahead and making this board without knowing if Intel would have enabled straps or unlocked multi's.
Took a lot of balls to do that and a lot of money and time.
Even with the limits on the chips my guess is that a 106-109BCLK could be done just like on the first P67 boards
Then a pair of E5-2687W's that has a 34 multi on turbo at say 108 is 3672MHz with 16 cores and 32 threads.
That should get your wPrimne32 bench well into the one second mark I think..
Also we don't know IF Intel will hear the cries for chips with strap or multi's unlocked.
Patience my friends and say a Thank you that we have companies like this that are still willing to go out and take a risk!
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:24:46 (permalink)


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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:26:18 (permalink)
3gb SAS? Good lord.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:27:25 (permalink)
Its not a funeral its not evga fault that intel decided to release lame xeon chips that are block strap locked and multiplier locked. Unlike us current sr-2 users we atleast can oc farely well with the block so its gonna suck for those considering to get the sr-x and try to oc unless intel releases a chip with the block strap unlocked atleast.

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:40:13 (permalink)
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Jeez, it sounds like a funeral in here instead of Thanking EVGA for going ahead and making this board without knowing if Intel would have enabled straps or unlocked multi's.
Took a lot of balls to do that and a lot of money and time.
Even with the limits on the chips my guess is that a 106-109BCLK could be done just like on the first P67 boards
Then a pair of E5-2687W's that has a 34 multi on turbo at say 108 is 3672MHz with 16 cores and 32 threads.
That should get your wPrimne32 bench well into the one second mark I think..
Also we don't know IF Intel will hear the cries for chips with strap or multi's unlocked.
Patience my friends and say a Thank you that we have companies like this that are still willing to go out and take a risk!


The board is a beautiful board. The problem is, there's really no motivation to upgrade from a overclocked SR-2, given that the overall performance will be roughly the same and the SR-2 will have higher single-thread performance thanks to its higher clocks.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:42:41 (permalink)
Of course if you're folding the SR-X should offer higher PPD/watt than an overclocked SR-2 system.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 16:54:34 (permalink)
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moviemanxs

Jeez, it sounds like a funeral in here instead of Thanking EVGA for going ahead and making this board without knowing if Intel would have enabled straps or unlocked multi's.
Took a lot of balls to do that and a lot of money and time.
Even with the limits on the chips my guess is that a 106-109BCLK could be done just like on the first P67 boards
Then a pair of E5-2687W's that has a 34 multi on turbo at say 108 is 3672MHz with 16 cores and 32 threads.
That should get your wPrimne32 bench well into the one second mark I think..
Also we don't know IF Intel will hear the cries for chips with strap or multi's unlocked.
Patience my friends and say a Thank you that we have companies like this that are still willing to go out and take a risk!


The board is a beautiful board. The problem is, there's really no motivation to upgrade from a overclocked SR-2, given that the overall performance will be roughly the same and the SR-2 will have higher single-thread performance thanks to its higher clocks.

This is true i think i saw some cinebench runs that people were saying performance wise between the sr-2 and the sr-x your not seeing a big jump not big enough to ditch the sr-2 if u already own one.

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 17:04:18 (permalink)
I dont think you'd see any jump.. The Cinebench CPU test isnt multithreaded I bet the SR-X with even the fastest E5's will trail an oc'd SR-2
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 17:13:54 (permalink)
Why cant eVGA come out with a dual socket i7 2011 motherboard? The i7's have their bclck and multiplier unlocked.
 
I would love to see that.


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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 17:18:05 (permalink)
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Why cant eVGA come out with a dual socket i7 2011 motherboard? The i7's have their bclck and multiplier unlocked.

I would love to see that.

once again. this is intel. the 17 2011 chips can not comunicate in pairs per intel design. that proto asus board did not provide real dual chip performance with mixed chips like that if it even worked at all which is unlikely

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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 18:16:04 (permalink)
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Why cant eVGA come out with a dual socket i7 2011 motherboard? The i7's have their bclck and multiplier unlocked.

I would love to see that.

 
If you are referring to the desktop/enthusiast i7 processors like the 3960, this will not work because a QPI link is needed for inter-processor communication. These i7 processors do not have this link enabled.
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Re:EVGA Classified SR-X 2012/03/06 18:21:55 (permalink)
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Thank you for the prompt reply. I do understand where you are coming from in regards to how you structured your warranty. Some people just like to have peace of mind that their product is covered for life, specially with a motherboard that costs as much as some peoples whole computer. 

For reference if you bought a board 10 years ago your looking at something like an Intel P5 running ~60-66Mhz. If you owned that system today and it broke would you RMA it?
While I see the logic especially given EVGA's typical customer that may not fuss with older hardware, it could be a hassle for EVGA to RMA something 10yrs old, probabaly forced to give away a newer (albeit refirbished) equivalent to honor that warranty. So someone will get a free upgrade.  My GTX260 and X58 still have LLW, I think; so if either borks, either I get a better one for free or someone at EVGA made a box with another X58/GTX260 with a note saying, "For lehpron because he is cheap".

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