https://www.ebay.com/itm/...56016?autorefresh=true
 

 
 

14.4k. 

CyberbrainPC
Aaaand removed :( 

Yep. Some say it was Jensen Huang's fault. 

Thanks Sajin!  Just to reiterate this is legit.  This is from us.  Just had some issues listing.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374397756016
 

Definitely a good cause and a piece of hardware very few people in the world will ever ever own.

rjohnson11
I guess someone has 13,200 dollars to burn. That is the latest bid. 

I put in a respectable bid, but instantly got outbid. Oh well. Time to hunt for the Galax RTX 4090 HOF.

Just looked and even the new listing shows removed now.

ebay is trash. even if it was reasonably priced I wouldn't bid.
 

Wait!
I thought that EVGA quit GPU business because losing money (and disrespect from Nvidia).
A five-year-old can see that company would sell 4090 like hot cakes for way more than $2K and have nice profit margin. 
Go figure...

No need to be philosopher here.
All AIBS are raking money on 4090 but EVGA. Period.
EVGA was top tier GPU producer. Once stopped doing that, game over.
 
Four-year-old can see that greed rule in every business, so Nvidia is just staying in a greed loop.
Check EVGA current available product and prices and tell me there is no overpricing there.
 
But at the end of a day (as C1 like to say), we vote with a volet. Everything else is just venting 

ty_ger07
Your opinions versus hard data. I'll choose the data.

So, data shows AIBs losing money on 4090? Would like to see those data.

Lonely EVGA CEO decision versus 10 other AIB CEOs decisions. 
One against all doesn't leave much choice who to pick up.

the_Scarlet_one
Yeah, it looks like you skipped the two videos made by JayzTwoCentsless and GamersNexus where they both talked about the fact that EVGA was almost at full production stage when they left the business, so this card and the two card J2C and GN received were all pre-production.

If this was actually the production model, it would NEVER sell for this price, but there is only a few of these in existence, which obviously would drive the price up or you would see people buying 4090’s on eBay for $5-$10k all the time, but you don’t because no one would pay that much for a full production line of products.

If you think cards are so profitable at this point, you should draw up a full business plan. I would be interested to see how much it would cost versus how much you would make… except to find out, NVidia would put you under NDA more than likely, and you wouldn’t be able to discuss much, but I would still be interested to see what you come up with. Of course, I am not interested in speculation of what you THINK happens just because other AIB’s do something, because you clearly can’t see behind the curtain without some big time insider sources to give you exact numbers.

Yes, I skipped some videos but remember that EVGA GPU stop decision had been made in April, and announcement aired in mid-September???
Something doesn't make sense in this fact.
After record revenue in 2021, EVGA is pulling the plug for GPU production because slim profit margin. At the same time CEO (according to Steve from GN) state how EVGA is financially strong and no one employee will be left behind...
 
No one need insider to see how profitable 4090 is for all AIBs. In fact, they can't produce as much as they can sell. A dream field for any manufacturer, but EVGA.
 
Sure no one can't see behind curtain, but in front of the curtain I can see ten successful GPU AIBs and one unsuccessful former GPU AIB. 
 
EVGA had my trust, loyalty, and money for two decades and suddenly spit on that because someone's ego and inability to restructure GPU production to tolerable profit margin as all other AIBs did.
 
I could be wrong, I could be right, but my bitterness toward EVGA leadership comes from inability to by EVGA GPU anymore.

dragomirc
No one need insider to see how profitable 4090 is for all AIBs. In fact, they can't produce as much as they can sell. A dream field for any manufacturer, but EVGA.

For NVIDIA, without a doubt. For the AIBs, we don't know. Their margin may only be 10%. Maybe more. But not a lot more, according to data available.

But then when NVIDIA hoses them on other cards, any profit they make on the 4090 is offset by profit they lose when NVIDIA undercuts them. Like, when NVIDIA surely cuts the price of the 4080, will the AIBs be selling with a negative margin for the 4080?

NVIDIA sells to the AIB with a steep markup which lets NVIDIA keep a healthy margin but cuts the AIB's margin to almost nothing, according to reports. The only reason NVIDIA still has AIBs is because of contractual obligations and because NVIDIA is able to retain a healthy margin. Reportedly, NVIDIA continues to cut the AIB's margin to even less and less, has caused the AIB's to sell at negative margin repeatedly, and is purposely squeezing the AIBs out in hopes to cause all the AIBs to end their contracts so that NVIDIA no longer has AIBs taking any amount of margin from NVIDIA.

Sure the AIBs are staying in business, but what kind of business is it to get the NVIDIA scraps and never have enough margin or autonomy to make a truly special card?

If all you can see is expensive video cards selling a lot, stop telling us about how obvious it is that AIBs are making money. NVIDIA is making a ton of money, without a doubt. Start seeing more before talking more.

It is pointless for me to respond if you won't educate yourself about this specific topic. There is no amount of innovation or foresight which will prevent NVIDIA from purposely undercutting the AIB's profit margin. The more they innovate, the more it costs them, the less profit they make. NVIDIA is making it a cookie-cutter AIB product line with very little room to innovate and controls the majority of the AIB's pricing, features, and performance. NVIDIA only tolerates innovation for small-run products and all other products have to be authorized by NVIDIA, firmware approved by NVIDIA, pricing controlled by NVIDIA, and cores and memory sold to the AIB by NVIDIA at steep markup.

According to industry sources, NVIDIA sells the core AND memory as a package to the AIB at such a steep markup that the rest of the inexpensive jelly-bean components don't have enough margin in them to produce a card with more than $100 or $200 profit per card. Sometimes even negative profit when NVIDIA drops prices of its competing cards.

Since NVIDIA controls the board design, tells the AIB the VRM options which are approved, and controls the firmware, there is no chance to find other options or tweaks which unlock enough performance that the AIB can compete at a significantly higher price.

NVIDIA creates the innovation, stifles competing innovation, controls pricing, and controls the AIB's profit margin.