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2021/05/15 15:48:43 (permalink)
It was $3500 a few days ago, and no $3900 in amazon.

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    henrickd
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 12:26:43 (permalink)
    Nobody cares. Stop buying them and the price will go down, simple as that.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 12:34:15 (permalink)
    Easier said then done... 2 things come to mind:

    1) there are those out there that don't care about cost either because they are looking to mine or have more money than sense

    2) those that have been looking for a GPU since launch and can't wait any longer and finally cave in

    I'm sure there are many, like me, who's current GPU is several generations old and in need of an update.

    At this point, I might just migrate to console gaming, although they too are having supply issues but nothing like GPUs.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 12:40:16 (permalink)
    hpak53
    Easier said then done... 2 things come to mind:

    1) there are those out there that don't care about cost either because they are looking to mine or have more money than sense

    2) those that have been looking for a GPU since launch and can't wait any longer and finally cave in

    I'm sure there are many, like me, who's current GPU is several generations old and in need of an update.

    At this point, I might just migrate to console gaming, although they too are having supply issues but nothing like GPUs.

    I agree that the situation is bad right now, but I don't think we need this kind of thread on the forum, especially if it's an isolated case where one seller jacked up the price on one card.
    Maybe OP is a scalper himself and trying to get people to have FOMO and buy his stuff at even higher prices... who knows. That's why I made my former post.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 12:50:49 (permalink)
    I don't see the point of this... like, yeah? Scalpers gonna be scalpers, trying to get as much as they can from desperate people.
    Tbh there's a point where you might get tempted to get one but then you see the price and it's laughable.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 12:59:58 (permalink)
    this video card problem go on for other year...

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 14:14:12 (permalink)
    if nobody buys gpus for these prices. the resellers would stop.
    the way this whole situation started is laughable.. people selling their 2080ti for $500 and wanting a 3080 to play Cyberpunk, which ended up being a letdown.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 14:18:18 (permalink)
    hahaha i don't know where they are selling for 500$ i sold a 2080ti hybrid evga for 1000$ on ebay was sold in 10 min.
    and got a 3090 ftw ultra evga ror 1800$ from j&c computers but now they are selling 3080 and 3090 in systems only no, guess i got lucky
    post edited by blackforce - 2021/05/16 14:21:13
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 15:54:49 (permalink)
    Its all about patience but sometimes you lose it and buy from a scalper, I've set my time to a month or so, if I don't get one, I would probably buy too, prices are going up sadly :(
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 17:55:44 (permalink)
    It's pretty volatile, and Amazon gets a portion of revenue from sales, so they aren't going to step in. We just have to ride it out. My 10 series GPU can still boot and run CUDA ops. And it's better than paying hundreds for a GTX 750 Ti... Just have to bear with it. If no one breaks and pays more than X threshold, prices will fall to meet that threshold. Scalpers are looking for massive profits, but they also want to avoid loss. Refuse to cave, let Ethereum difficulty rise during the summer, let panic set in for proof of stake, and check sales trends once a week to see when scalpers start hurting. That's our only way through this mess :(

    Maybe a $1500 gaming laptop can help in the meantime. Might be 30% as powerful as a desktop system, but it's more cost effective than spending $1500 on a 3060 Ti.

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 18:03:29 (permalink)
    The majority of actual gamers are not buying these cards at those prices. There's only 2 types of people who buy them at that price:
     
    1. Miners - They don't care about the cost because they are hoping to earn back what they dump into the cards
     
    2. Rich parents of spoiled brats - "Honey just buy him the damn thing so he stops interrupting my sun bathing!"
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 18:26:01 (permalink)
    its actually crazy how expensive they are going for. they need to restock.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 21:39:29 (permalink)
    Chip shortage ever ending?
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 21:46:29 (permalink)
    So... two things:
     
    1. The sellers listing them at those prices on Amazon are third party sellers
     
    2. eVGA cannot dictate to Amazon what they price the GPU at, nor can Amazon dictate to third party sellers what they price their cards at.
     
    So this is, literally, something the eVGA has no control over.

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 21:58:06 (permalink)
    Exactly
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/16 22:05:27 (permalink)
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    its actually crazy how expensive they are going for. they need to restock.


    Restock from what supply? Who has stock to allocate to Amazon official?

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/17 00:19:32 (permalink)
    hate this scalpers....and we gammers are not getting any cards :(
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/30 14:57:02 (permalink)
    Buying from scalpers only fuels the fire. This problem wont stop until people begin to understand this.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/30 15:14:45 (permalink)
    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 06:19:32 (permalink)
    Knight_Ex
    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.


    I'm not sure anyone would be THAT specific, but an anti-scalping law for hardware in general would do the job. Problem is, it can only be regulated in countries that adopt it. And any form of legislature isn't known to be quick on their feet. Some laws take years to plan, draft, revise, lobby, debate, revise to compromises, debate again, get passed by vote, and ultimately signed into law. Some free market advocates might kill such an effort by labeling it as "extreme socialist <blah blah blah>" because ReGuLaTiOn BaD. It's not like you can block people from other counties listing items at scalper rates on popular platforms. Even if you take a shotgun approach and fine any American / British / <whatever origin> company from allowing it, you'd only see filters put in place for hardware names, and those filters would be bypassed by Unicode characters or misspelling. All in all, I'm pretty pessimistic about it unless big players like Amazon, Newegg, eBay, & CL have a revolutionary effort to protect buyers and rework their selling systems.

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 06:26:06 (permalink)
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    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.


    I'm not sure anyone would be THAT specific, but an anti-scalping law for hardware in general would do the job. Problem is, it can only be regulated in countries that adopt it. And any form of legislature isn't known to be quick on their feet. Some laws take years to plan, draft, revise, lobby, debate, revise to compromises, debate again, get passed by vote, and ultimately signed into law. Some free market advocates might kill such an effort by labeling it as "extreme socialist <blah blah blah>" because ReGuLaTiOn BaD. It's not like you can block people from other counties listing items at scalper rates on popular platforms. Even if you take a shotgun approach and fine any American / British / <whatever origin> company from allowing it, you'd only see filters put in place for hardware names, and those filters would be bypassed by Unicode characters or misspelling. All in all, I'm pretty pessimistic about it unless big players like Amazon, Newegg, eBay, & CL have a revolutionary effort to protect buyers and rework their selling systems.
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    Then people will start selling the graphics card with something like a paper clip. And state the paper clip's value is the difference.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 07:04:15 (permalink)
    Knight_Ex
    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.

    Define scalping. Is a grilled cheese sandwich which looks like Jesus, scalping? Is a rare painting, scalping? Is a rare video card, scalping? What's the difference between a rare historic video card versus a rare modern video card? Once it is something that a human owns, it is their right to sell it for its perceived value. Saying that law should prevent people from being able to sell what they own at its perceived value, doesn't make sense.

    That's the problem. You can't regulate perceived value. To fight scalpers, you simply have to stop being a crazy consumer. Scalping isn't something that can easily be regulated by law; it's more effective to regulate it by education.

    Just like with LHR GPUs, only jealous consumers argue for restrictions like this. Once a consumer becomes an owner, they want the least amount of restriction possible to use or sell the thing that they own. Don't be a jealous consumer. See things from other perspectives.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 07:19:03 (permalink)
    Of course it is. Man the market sucks
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 07:36:31 (permalink)
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    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.

    Define scalping. Is a grilled cheese sandwich which looks like Jesus, scalping? Is a rare painting, scalping? Is a rare video card, scalping? What's the difference between a rare historic video card versus a rare modern video card? Once it is something that a human owns, it is their right to sell it for its perceived value. ...


    Also a great point. There's an ultra rare, flawless grade 10 PSA "Blue Eyes White Dragon" Yugi Oh trading card on an eBay auction for $300K right now. That likely came from a booster pack sold for no more than 5 bucks 20 years ago. (This almost made me **** a brick since I have one, but it's a common starter deck version. Ha!) Similarly, try to find a high grade holo Pokemon card from the original set for what it was originally purchased for. Vintage and scarce items are always going to go for a premium. It would be great if we could do something about current gen hardware, but it's just not that easy.

    Truth be told, I hate these insane prices, and though I can afford them due to saving a healthy portion of my salary for the last year, there's absolutely no way I want to encourage this behavior and contribute to the problem. If product supply is limited such that prices must rise, then I'd prefer the actual MSRP be adjusted so official partners and manufacturers get the lion share of the revenue so they can use it to buy more supplies / hire more specialized labor needed to produce more hardware. Sending an extra $2,000 to Xi-Juyan or John Doe with a registered "business" address of a parking lot in Los Angeles does nothing but reward malicious actors.

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 10:20:08 (permalink)
    jd760
    The majority of actual gamers are not buying these cards at those prices. There's only 2 types of people who buy them at that price:
     
    1. Miners - They don't care about the cost because they are hoping to earn back what they dump into the cards
     
    2. Rich parents of spoiled brats - "Honey just buy him the damn thing so he stops interrupting my sun bathing!"



    I don't know why so many people assume that rich parents of spoiled brats are buying the scalped cards.  I've seen the same comments elsewhere.
     
    I know plenty of gamers who got tired of waiting to finish their new build and gave in to scalper prices.  It was worth more to them to enjoy a new system and pay $1000-$1500 over MSRP for a new card than to wait until next year to buy a new card.  Especially when they were playing on 5+ year old systems.  In the U.S. plenty of gamers who were able to continue to work during the pandemic saved the money from their stimulus checks and used that to pay scalper prices of new RTX 3000 series cards.

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/05/31 10:23:36 (permalink)
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    The majority of actual gamers are not buying these cards at those prices. There's only 2 types of people who buy them at that price:
     
    1. Miners - They don't care about the cost because they are hoping to earn back what they dump into the cards
     
    2. Rich parents of spoiled brats - "Honey just buy him the damn thing so he stops interrupting my sun bathing!"



    I don't know why so many people assume that rich parents of spoiled brats are buying the scalped cards.  I've seen the same comments elsewhere.
     
    I know plenty of gamers who got tired of waiting to finish their new build and gave in to scalper prices.  It was worth more to them to enjoy a new system and pay $1000-$1500 over MSRP for a new card than to wait until next year to buy a new card.  Especially when they were playing on 5+ year old systems.  In the U.S. plenty of gamers who were able to continue to work during the pandemic saved the money from their stimulus checks and used that to pay scalper prices of new RTX 3000 series cards.


    It's just saltiness. It's a defense mechanism. If they make it seem like no true gamer is taking the cards, they feel a sense of relief.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/06/01 10:42:31 (permalink)
    Just don't give scalpers your money!
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/06/01 11:23:22 (permalink)
    Knight_Ex
    All the government needs to do is put out an anti- GPU scalping law like ticket scalping and watch those GPU's plummet in price.


    Dangerous slope here.  I don't think you want to open the door to the government telling consumers how much they can sell items they own. Where do you stop letting the government control prices?  Who gets to define the right price?  We all know how government officials get paid from industries (even though they shouldn't).  Are you ok if the government caps how much you can sell your car for?  Say someone offers you 50,000 for your old Pontiac GTO because its rare and they always wanted one.  But since a senator took money from Ford, there is now a law that says all cars besides Fords can only be sold for a maximum of $10,000.  Are you ok with that?  I'm not.
     
    Market dictates price.  Right now market price is well above MSRP.  That's because demand is way higher than supply.  Either Demand needs to fall (unlikely without a real competitor out there) or supply needs to increase (which will happen at some point).  

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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/06/01 11:27:46 (permalink)
    If people don't give in for a while I can see them dropping just not enough to purchase.
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    Re: EVGA 3090 scalper Price Up 2021/06/01 11:33:45 (permalink)
    Those prices are only going to g🤣o  up.
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