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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/09/24 10:41:56 (permalink)
Got the EK Velocity (version 2) water block installed last evening on the new 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra and completed my leak test overnight.

Some initial OC's started out fairly mild and pushed up to +180 Core / +1100 Memory.
I havent bothered updating vBIOS or FW ....its all stock on the Card.

Boosts to 2100 Mhz / Avg 2070 Mhz....thermals indicate decent contact on the Block, also went with Kryonaut grease (thin layer spread over die),
GPU-Z shows Max Power draw 422w.
Room Temp (ambient) 19c, GPU 21c (idle)
Max temp GPU core looping PR for 20 min is 43c/45c
 
As always just used stock thermal pads that came with the block (all 1mm with 1mm, 1.5mm and primarily 2mm on the nickel back plate) tighten down all screws including back plate until they wont tighten no more.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1234434
 

9900k I haven't mucked with, pretty much just leave it at my 24/7 OC 5 Ghz all cores 1.295v


There is more under the hood yet, but will dial back OC's to +90 / +675 and get into a little marathon of CB77. That game certainly doesn't seem to like very high OC's at all (without crashing), from what I saw on my 3080 Card.

For initial boot up and trials happy with the results so far, didnt even bother re-installing drivers after HW swap, usually I do, but got lazy
post edited by rjbarker - 2021/09/24 10:43:26

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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/09/24 11:30:14 (permalink)
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Here is my build. I'll take better pics once I get a better camera/phone.

Corsair 7000D
MSI MEG Z590 Ace
Intel i9-11900k w/Corsair Waterblock
EVGA 3090 FTW3 w/EK Waterblock
Corsair Vengeance 32gb RAM @ 3600mhz
WD_Black SN850 1tb SSD
WD_Black SN750 1tb SSD
WD_Blue SN550 2tb SSD
EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 80+ Gold
Corsair/Bitspower fittings
Corsair hardline 14mm tube
Corsair XD5 Pump/Res Combo
Corsair QL120 fans
480mm radiator
360mm radiator
120mm radiator
Mayhem Pastel Dark Grey Coolant




http://imgur.com/gallery/yrrEqwl


I like it
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/09/24 12:07:26 (permalink)
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Here is my build. I'll take better pics once I get a better camera/phone.

Corsair 7000D
MSI MEG Z590 Ace
Intel i9-11900k w/Corsair Waterblock
EVGA 3090 FTW3 w/EK Waterblock
Corsair Vengeance 32gb RAM @ 3600mhz
WD_Black SN850 1tb SSD
WD_Black SN750 1tb SSD
WD_Blue SN550 2tb SSD
EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 80+ Gold
Corsair/Bitspower fittings
Corsair hardline 14mm tube
Corsair XD5 Pump/Res Combo
Corsair QL120 fans
480mm radiator
360mm radiator
120mm radiator
Mayhem Pastel Dark Grey Coolant


http://imgur.com/gallery/yrrEqwl

very nice!!!
 
do you mind me asking what kind of sustained CPU load temps and your coolant temps with the i9 at stock clocks?  I have the 11700k and a similar build... just curious.

CPU:     Intel 12900K EK 1700 Quantum Mag Acetel
GPU:     EVGA 3090 KPHC
MB:      EVGA Z690 Dark
PSU:     EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P+
Memory:  G.SKILL Z5 6600mhz XMP3
NVME:    Samsung 980 Pro Gen 4 1TB, Gen 3 970 1TB
Cooling: MO-RA3 420 P/P 8x200mm Noctua HS PWM, Dual D5
Case:    Fractal Design Define 7
 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/09/24 12:51:20 (permalink)
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Here is my build. I'll take better pics once I get a better camera/phone.

Corsair 7000D
MSI MEG Z590 Ace
Intel i9-11900k w/Corsair Waterblock
EVGA 3090 FTW3 w/EK Waterblock
Corsair Vengeance 32gb RAM @ 3600mhz
WD_Black SN850 1tb SSD
WD_Black SN750 1tb SSD
WD_Blue SN550 2tb SSD
EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 80+ Gold
Corsair/Bitspower fittings
Corsair hardline 14mm tube
Corsair XD5 Pump/Res Combo
Corsair QL120 fans
480mm radiator
360mm radiator
120mm radiator
Mayhem Pastel Dark Grey Coolant


http://imgur.com/gallery/yrrEqwl

very nice!!!
 
do you mind me asking what kind of sustained CPU load temps and your coolant temps with the i9 at stock clocks?  I have the 11700k and a similar build... just curious.


Depends on which game I'm playing. For example on warzone cpu temps go to mid 60s but gpu is in the high 40s and coolant temp is mid to high 30s. But in games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla cpu temp is in the 50s. And coolant is about the same.

Edit* right now coolant is 15C over ambient and cpu is at 65C. GPU is at 50C. This is playing warzone.
post edited by eg1122 - 2021/09/24 13:17:25

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
Cooling: Corsair iCue H150i RGB Pro XT
Fans: 6x Corsair LL120, 4x Corsair ML120 RGB (Capellix), 4x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB
Mother Board: MSI MEG Z590 Ace
GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid
RAM: 4x 8GB CORSAIR Vengeance @XMP 3600mhz
SSDs(NVME): 1x WD Black SN850 1TB, 1x WD Black SN750 1TB, 1x WD Blue SN550 2TB
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X3
Case: Corsair Crystal Series 680x
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G2
Monitor: Asus Strix XG32VQ (144hz)
Keyboard: Corsair K100 - Cherry MX
Mouse: Logitech MX Master
OS: Windows 10 pro 64bit
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/09/26 04:09:19 (permalink)
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So in case I want to repaste with Kryonaut and tighten the screws more, shall I warm up the whole block with a hair dryer or something to make the original pads softer? Cannot let it run hot in the system itself as I have hardtubes and it would take too long to remove the card.....




I'm using Kryonaut already and my results are 18-20C over water while drawing 450W. I have tightened my screws to the point where they are stuck in the standoff. Unscrewing them actually undoes the stand-off n the WB itself. 
 
Your time may not be worth it unless you have worse results than mine. But if you must, just run a benchmark for awhile like Timespy Extreme or Port Royal, do the 20 loops, and the card should be warmed up. Nothing beats having the card itself actually warm up and heat the pads directly. Then remove the card, remove the backplate and see if you can tighten all the screws any further. 


So I have repasted with Kryonaut and got the screws tighter. It is running with 16C delta now at 400w, so around 3-4C cooler. Should be the same like your 18-20 delta @ 450w?

At the end you’re right, all those old rules of thumb in the forums that 10c is good and 20c delta is bad are from old 1080-2080 times, you cannot compare this to a 400-450w beast like the ftw. I wonder what the 40xx era will bring….
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/12 07:45:06 (permalink)
Hey guys, what's your Hot Spot and Memory Temps on Water cooled cards?
 


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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 13:51:47 (permalink)
I’ve decided to do a custom loop for my rig for the first time . Grabbing the EKWB front and rear water block for the 3090 FTW3 hybrid she gets pretty hot even with that 240mm AIO seen it get into the 80s in cyberpunk over the summer and had to turn all my OCs off , anyone know of a tear down of that card posted anywhere ?

that and can anyone recommend a toolkit that would have all the small bits I’d need to disassemble it
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 14:39:04 (permalink)
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I’ve decided to do a custom loop for my rig for the first time . Grabbing the EKWB front and rear water block for the 3090 FTW3 hybrid she gets pretty hot even with that 240mm AIO seen it get into the 80s in cyberpunk over the summer and had to turn all my OCs off , anyone know of a tear down of that card posted anywhere ?

that and can anyone recommend a toolkit that would have all the small bits I’d need to disassemble it

It's pretty simple, though that particular active rear plate was backordered until 10-1-21 is now pushed back to 10-31-21.  I cancelled my order placed back in late August as waiting another 30 days wasn't tolerable.  I have a Dell 3090 running EK front and rear active plates, a 3090ftw3 running Bykski front and rear active cool and a 3090ftw3 factory hybrid running the factory cooler on the GPU and a Bykski rear VRAM cooler.  They all run about the same temperature.  The dell may run 2-3 degrees cooler, but it is not tolerant of over clocking and runs slower.  Mine run 100% round the clock mining.  VRAM stays about 74C, GPU runs 38-41C.


I had an old mini bit driver kit I used to use back in the day to work on cell phones when I needed to that had everything I needed in it. (Which is really just 2 phillips bits)  Something like this :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...424:g:~wYAAOSw9fhgzN5W

Rewards Code! SQ5PAMKCXE
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 15:06:28 (permalink)
I don’t mind waiting on the back order for the EKWB blocks going to grab the expensive parts of the loop my self like the radiators and blocks and wait for the holidays to get the tubes and fittings for Xmas from family
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 18:05:43 (permalink)
I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 20:00:43 (permalink)
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I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic
post edited by rjbarker - 2021/10/14 20:05:17

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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 20:14:47 (permalink)
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I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 20:21:18 (permalink)
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I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 




The pad "fell off" when assembling?
PCB or Backplate...dont quite understand how it can "fall off".....the backplate pads peel off the plastick on one side, then apply that side to the backplate (it will stick on the back plate). Once there all applied you can flip the backplate upside down ..line up the holes and put in place (dont wiggle it around too much)....line up holes almost perfectly prior to "seating it"....
 
You remembered to take all the plastic film off both sides of the pads Im assuming......
Keep us updated what you find with RGB wire once you disassemble.

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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/14 23:13:05 (permalink)
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I just installed my block 3080TI and having temp and RGB issues. I have already taken the card part once and everything looks like it made good contact. 
 
I need to take the card back again as looks like one the pads came off, not sure if it for the back of the card or gpu side :(
 
GPU Temps  are hitting 68+ within 10mins in heaven.  Water temp is around 39-40c.
 
Corsair 5000 RGB, 360 EK Rad, EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 120 Pump/Res @1800 RPM(I did have the pump at full with same result), Fans @900 RPM 
 
All the RGB is not even lighting up.
 
CPU is on AIO.
 
https://imgur.com/a/pn5hvpf
 
 




Not sure what you mean by "looks like one of the pads came off" ? Are you talking about the thermal pads ? .......Did you install the block on the PCB yourself (assuming you did)....pads on backplate or on PCB, if you install the pads correctly, fit the PCB over the block and tighten down they cannot "come off".....
Taking apart and re-applying thermal pads is a breeze
 
Your temps are certainly quite high but not sure how many radiators your using to cool the GPU....you should be able to ensure all thermal pads are correctly installed (correct thickness following the instructions) and re-assemble.
If you tightened the screws on the pcb to block really snug, inspect the little plastic washers prior to re-using, as if they appear deformed / squashed from the initial install, you shouldnt try to re-use them, as you wont get the perfect "tightened seat".......I went thru this when I moved my block from the 3080 to the 3080Ti....use new plastic washers, EK provides enough in the package for a few installs..
 
1. I always use new thermal pads an plastic washers if I have to disassemble and re-install.
2. I tighten down the screws on the pcb "very snug", to the point you begin to squish down the plastic washers slightly.
3. I have seen some folks and EK say not to tighten too much, but if you dont tighten enough you wont get a good "seat"...
 
As for your RGB not working, assuming its the RGB at the end of the Waterblock where the "Vector FTW3" lights up, a couple of things to check:
- First any lighting software, play around with it, if that doesnt do the trick....
- Take the Block apart and check that the little RGB wire connector that lays between the block and PCB didnt come disconnected during the install. (I had this same thing happen).
- When you take the Block check the same RGB wire that you checked above in the 2nd step for being "squished" in a location between the PCB and the block (I have seen this as well)....
 
I had this exact same thing happen, the wire got crushed in between the PCB and Block, fortunately I had another Block kicking around so replaced the wire and voila....RGB worked.
 
The way EK has that RGB wire between the PCB and Block isnt the best as it can move around a little (thats all it takes) while assembling the block.....when I fixed it, I also used some little tiny pieces of masking tape to keep the wire "fixed" in place (pieces of tape over the wire and against the under side (its a void space) of the block while assembling.
 
As for the re-assembling the Block with "used / squashed" plastic washers, the minute I ran Heaven, I saw my GPU get to 56c...which is not normal and too high for my loop, once I re-assembled with new plastic washers, max temp I saw was 46c....which is normal temp.
 
Keep us posted how you make out, include pics once dis-assembled.
 
As for the RGB lighting not working, based upon your pic





One the thermal pads fell off, I will take pictures when I try again  tomorrow.  Also going to try without using the EK blackplate.  I'm using 1 360 rad which more than plenty. 
 Thanks for the tip on the RGB will take look  at this. 




The pad "fell off" when assembling?
PCB or Backplate...dont quite understand how it can "fall off".....the backplate pads peel off the plastick on one side, then apply that side to the backplate (it will stick on the back plate). Once there all applied you can flip the backplate upside down ..line up the holes and put in place (dont wiggle it around too much)....line up holes almost perfectly prior to "seating it"....
 
You remembered to take all the plastic film off both sides of the pads Im assuming......
Keep us updated what you find with RGB wire once you disassemble.




Not sure what pad it was.   I will find out :).  I am not sure how it came off either and yes I removed the plastic film
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 13:08:53 (permalink)
I replied everything and temps are little better but looks like I will be returning the block as something is not right with this.  rgb not working, makes me wonder if this slip thru QA...
 
Here are pictures after taking apart.
 
I used thermal grizzly this time, forgot to take picture after applying, but it was thin evenly coated line.   
 
https://imgur.com/a/V7j6nYS
 
 
Timespy run has average 55c
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/67288863?
 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 13:49:37 (permalink)
That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 14:41:36 (permalink)
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That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:11:56 (permalink)
Yea but there are so many people popping up with 20C+ deltas at 400-450w. Maybe they just need to work on their mount, but I slapped my 3090 in a Corsair block with stock pads and paste originally and still got about 15C at that power level.
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:30:31 (permalink)
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That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....




 
Yes I did use ton of paste, I used alot less this time.   One the thermal pads came off when I flip it over which I put back on during the reinstall.  The cutting is not pretty I will admit that I wish EK would provide precut pads. I would pay extra for it!.  
 
Anyways...
 
I was running fans @1,300 rpm and pump @ 50%.  Water temp was at 34-35. 
 
I did find my problem not sure how this happen as this was new pump, rad and etc..
 
Looks like something is clogged in the block?  This had to come from the factory some how.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Tm8F4zs
 
 
This is not my first loop.  I had 3080 FE with bitspower waterblock installed and my temps where around 45-48.  I ended up selling that computer.  
 
I have now uninstalled the waterblock and went back with evga stock.  Temps look just fine so far.
 
Not sure what I want to do here.   Biggest reason I sold my other computer b/c I wanted to get away from the custom loop as  I didn't want to do maintenance on it. 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:42:35 (permalink)
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That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....




 
Yes I did use ton of paste, I used alot less this time.   One the thermal pads came off when I flip it over which I put back on during the reinstall.  The cutting is not pretty I will admit that I wish EK would provide precut pads. I would pay extra for it!.  
 
Anyways...
 
I was running fans @1,300 rpm and pump @ 50%.  Water temp was at 34-35. 
 
I did find my problem not sure how this happen as this was new pump, rad and etc..
 
Looks like something is clogged in the block?  This had to come from the factory some how.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Tm8F4zs
 
 
This is not my first loop.  I had 3080 FE with bitspower waterblock installed and my temps where around 45-48.  I ended up selling that computer.  
 
I have now uninstalled the waterblock and went back with evga stock.  Temps look just fine so far.
 
Not sure what I want to do here.   Biggest reason I sold my other computer b/c I wanted to get away from the custom loop as  I didn't want to do maintenance on it. 




Not sure but definitely see a fairly substantial air bubble in the block....some gunk maybe in 1 set of fins....but I have had an EK Block on both my 1080Ti's (SLi) whereby I hadnt flushed in 2.5 yrs...when I took the blocks apart the fins were a little clogged with some gunk but temps were still fine......
If your RGB lighting capable was firmly attached and the wire wasnt squished when you took it apart to inspect, I would say a defective RGB strip in the end of the Block and that alone is worthy of a replacement....contact EK Support.

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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:48:54 (permalink)
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That's not very good contact. A lot of paste everywhere but the center. Probably the problem. I think that EK FTW3 block just performs poorly. More than other ek blocks.



Works fine for me as every other EK Block.....looks like the OP had an entire tube of thermal paste on there...wow!! I still dont understand what he means by a thermal pad falling off....hes had it off n on a few times and likely re-using the same thermal pads and plastic washers (not a good idea)........
 
If his peak temp is 55c thats not bad considering he only has a single 360 rad in that loop to cool it....but also look back and see he mentions only running fans on that single rad at 900 RPM.....has he tried 1200 RPM to 1400RPM? ...no idea.....is this his first WB install...looking at the grease maybe ;)
Also look at the "pad job" on the Power Phase modules left side...crooked with a big gap.....and the pad on the lower VRAM chip looks "not right at all"...yeah no idea....




 
Yes I did use ton of paste, I used alot less this time.   One the thermal pads came off when I flip it over which I put back on during the reinstall.  The cutting is not pretty I will admit that I wish EK would provide precut pads. I would pay extra for it!.  
 
Anyways...
 
I was running fans @1,300 rpm and pump @ 50%.  Water temp was at 34-35. 
 
I did find my problem not sure how this happen as this was new pump, rad and etc..
 
Looks like something is clogged in the block?  This had to come from the factory some how.
 
https://imgur.com/a/Tm8F4zs
 
 
This is not my first loop.  I had 3080 FE with bitspower waterblock installed and my temps where around 45-48.  I ended up selling that computer.  
 
I have now uninstalled the waterblock and went back with evga stock.  Temps look just fine so far.
 
Not sure what I want to do here.   Biggest reason I sold my other computer b/c I wanted to get away from the custom loop as  I didn't want to do maintenance on it. 




Not sure but definitely see a fairly substantial air bubble in the block....some gunk maybe in 1 set of fins....but I have had an EK Block on both my 1080Ti's (SLi) whereby I hadnt flushed in 2.5 yrs...when I took the blocks apart the fins were a little clogged with some gunk but temps were still fine......
If your RGB lighting capable was firmly attached and the wire wasnt squished when you took it apart to inspect, I would say a defective RGB strip in the end of the Block and that alone is worthy of a replacement....contact EK Support.




That picture with the gunk was after I drain the loop.    This is the block completely drain and almost looks like its completely almost blocked off one side.  
 
I have already submitted RMA with the company where I bough it from. 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:55:36 (permalink)
If it's the blue stuff I see it's the garbage colored fluid. Plenty of other people have been burned by it.
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 15:59:30 (permalink)
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If it's the blue stuff I see it's the garbage colored fluid. Plenty of other people have been burned by it.



It's Gatorade -- 
 
joking btw it's corsair blue coolant.  
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/15 22:08:27 (permalink)
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If it's the blue stuff I see it's the garbage colored fluid. Plenty of other people have been burned by it.



He just filled the loop so its not that....there were issues with some dye colored coolants reacting with inner wall flex tubing causing deterioration and gunk build up in the fins of cold plates (CPU n GPU Blocks)....  iirc that was maybe 4 yrs ago.....although this problem has been resolved w better quality coolants and flex tubing...hardline pretty much non existant I believe...it still has me spooked enough to stick to clear concentrates
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/17 23:15:19 (permalink)
Hi this is post is  for FlavorII. I recently tried to install the same waterblock and back plate as you but on a 3080ti. Long story short I did not apply the correct amount of thermal pads on the back plate and when I turned on the computer a little smoke came from the card and now I have a $1800 brick of a card. My questions for you are:
1. Did you short your cards out and what did you tell EVGA to get them to RMA the cards. 
2. If I do get another card do you have any advice for how to apply the thermal pads the correct way? 
3. Also in the region of the GPU where the four screws mate the GPU to the water block one of my stands came apart but i am still able to screw it down pretty tight almost squishing the plastic washer. Do you forsee a problem with this? 
Thank you in advance if you can help. 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/29 03:14:25 (permalink)
I know you guys have succeeded in getting these installed, but after shorting out 2 cards attempting this I am too terrified to try a third time when EVGA has been pretty cool with my RMAs so far.
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/29 03:52:27 (permalink)
I know you guys have succeeded in getting these installed, but after shorting out 2 cards attempting this I am too terrified to try a third time when EVGA has been pretty cool with my RMAs so far.
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/29 04:22:55 (permalink)
Well, I ordered my EK water block for my 3080 FTW3 back on September 20th from EKWB.com, which wasn't in-stock yet, but was going to ship as soon as it did become available.  Cool, no problem with that!  So, it finally ships around September 30th via DHL, and arrives stateside October 3, shortly thereafter is handed over to USPS for the rest of the delivery route to my home.  On the day scheduled to be delivered to my home, the USPS driver could not find my house (new, substitute driver it seems) and that driver flagged my package with a "Incorrect number - Return to Sender".  That basically flags that package as not having the correct delivery address in it (which it was correct, btw).  I contacted USPS as soon as I saw the issue on the USPS tracking page on their website, and drove up to USPS  to hopefully pick up the package in person before they actually tried to sent it back.  I was too late, or at least they could not locate the pkg when I went to try to pick it  up..  
 
Anyway, so the package was sent back to DHL from USPS where it still sits.. somewhere.  I've contacted DHL and USPS both to try to locate it and get a re-delivery done.  Even have EKWB CS involved and trying to locate the package and get it sent back..  Got a email a few days ago from DHL saying they 'located' the pkg, but needed me to confirm my address, as it was flagged on being the wrong address on the pkg.. which again, it was correct from the get-go.  Haven't heard anything back from DHL, and the pkg on DHL tracking has been on the "Exception - Shipment is on hold" status since October 21st.   
 
Good times.. I just want my Water block!!  (and the other EK goodies I ordered)  This was not EK's fault in any way.. just a good ol' shipping error.  

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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/29 09:34:08 (permalink)
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Good times.. I just want my Water block!!  (and the other EK goodies I ordered)  This was not EK's fault in any way.. just a good ol' shipping error.  



That really sucks. I was infuriated at USPS when I read your post. They are idiots there. Every day I get my neighbors mail because they don't know how to sort mail anymore there I guess. 
 
 
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Re: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 3080/3080 Ti/3090 Discussion 2021/10/29 13:51:15 (permalink)
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Well, I ordered my EK water block for my 3080 FTW3 back on September 20th from EKWB.com, which wasn't in-stock yet, but was going to ship as soon as it did become available.  Cool, no problem with that!  So, it finally ships around September 30th via DHL, and arrives stateside October 3, shortly thereafter is handed over to USPS for the rest of the delivery route to my home.  On the day scheduled to be delivered to my home, the USPS driver could not find my house (new, substitute driver it seems) and that driver flagged my package with a "Incorrect number - Return to Sender".  That basically flags that package as not having the correct delivery address in it (which it was correct, btw).  I contacted USPS as soon as I saw the issue on the USPS tracking page on their website, and drove up to USPS  to hopefully pick up the package in person before they actually tried to sent it back.  I was too late, or at least they could not locate the pkg when I went to try to pick it  up..  
 
Anyway, so the package was sent back to DHL from USPS where it still sits.. somewhere.  I've contacted DHL and USPS both to try to locate it and get a re-delivery done.  Even have EKWB CS involved and trying to locate the package and get it sent back..  Got a email a few days ago from DHL saying they 'located' the pkg, but needed me to confirm my address, as it was flagged on being the wrong address on the pkg.. which again, it was correct from the get-go.  Haven't heard anything back from DHL, and the pkg on DHL tracking has been on the "Exception - Shipment is on hold" status since October 21st.   
 
Good times.. I just want my Water block!!  (and the other EK goodies I ordered)  This was not EK's fault in any way.. just a good ol' shipping error.  




Too bad....a bit of a drag especially when anticipating new toys.....here in Canada DHL does not go thru Canada Post at all in the delivery process....as in DHL delivery straight to the door, ordering direct from EK Slovania delivery to Vancouver Island Canada has always been fast and painless......likely cause Canada Post isnt involved :)

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