Also, "up to" 40 PCIe lanes! I think I'll be going with this over X299 since PCIe lanes were my main concern.
 
https://www.guru3d.com/ne...ered-heatspreader.html

the_Scarlet_one
Up to 40 probably means 16. Since 40 has been their max pci lanes on HEDT. Maybe 24, but extremely unlikely to be much over that.

My guess is, this picture means more to you:

https://www.guru3d.com/in...tion=file&id=28937

Gaming:
“Up to 8 cores”
“Up to 16 pci lanes”

Platform
“Up to 40 pci lanes”

So, the platform can support more lanes, but the cpu won’t?

Maybe it depends if you go with a Z390 motherboard?

If this holds true, this is extremely good news, 24 would be great even if it's not the full 40. I was worried about PCI-E lanes at first, mainly due to the fact I wanted my GPU to run on 16 lanes (I will be running NVMe in my next build, as well as dedicated soundcard). After researching, my current card GTX 1070ti takes no performance hit from 8 lanes vs 16, so I kinda thru it to the side at the moment. But, future wise, who knows how the performance impact will be in the next Gen cards, which I might get one somewhere down the road. So more lanes the better.
 
I really don't understand why we are limiting lanes anyway, especially on their HEDT chips. I get that they are trying to keep their x299 chipset relevant for power users, but to gimp gamers out of lanes just kinda sucks. Especially considering gamers might also want additional expandibility outside of just a GPU while still knowing that they are getting the most out of their purchase.
 
I am not an engineer (at least not an electronics one... lol), so I have no idea if more lanes makes things more complicated... But if the lower end X299 chips can muster more lanes for the same cost, it can't be that hard, just a pure limitation by intel in my thoughts.
 
Z370/390 is built for gamers, give them the same courtesy as those looking for more robust solutions I guess. 

kram36
It is time for Intel to increase the amount of PCIe lanes on lower tier CPU's and having the heat spreader directly soldered is a no-brainer on a CPU that pushes 5GHz.
 
Oh and Intel should have went Quad Channel memory on these 9000 series processors too.

And what good use consumer gets with quad channel memory?

ComboSlicer

kram36
It is time for Intel to increase the amount of PCIe lanes on lower tier CPU's and having the heat spreader directly soldered is a no-brainer on a CPU that pushes 5GHz.
 
Oh and Intel should have went Quad Channel memory on these 9000 series processors too.

And what good use consumer gets with quad channel memory?

Quad channel memory proved to have a minor performance increase over dual channel. But it did subtract from your wallet which apparently gave you bragging rights. You know, my dad can beat up your dad.

I think Intel now knows that extreme modders really want a soldered CPU and no paste.

Glad to see Intel going back with soldered ihs.

ComboSlicer
Exactly
 
It is good to see that solder is finally coming, the delidding was just ridiculous requirement because company wanted to save a few pennies.
Although I am more interested to see Meltdown and spectre flaws being fixed on hardware level which I doub was done for 9000 series.

Exactly. I feel Intel is making the right sacrifice. Keep dual channel and solder the damned thing.
 
Meltdown and Spectre flaws to be addressed: https://www.pcmag.com/news/359859/intel-teases-chip-redesign-to-stop-meltdown-spectre-flaws
 

24 lanes are in the chipset, but the DMI link isn't anywhere near the rate of PCIe 3.0, so it's still just 16 in the CPU with the least latency.

Calm down folks.

lehpron
24 lanes are in the chipset, but the DMI link isn't anywhere near the rate of PCIe 3.0, so it's still just 16 in the CPU with the least latency.

Calm down folks.

 Would this pose an issue with two NVMe drives, a modern GPU and a few SATA drives?

kram36

bg8780

lehpron
24 lanes are in the chipset, but the DMI link isn't anywhere near the rate of PCIe 3.0, so it's still just 16 in the CPU with the least latency.

Calm down folks.

Would this pose an issue with two NVMe drives, a modern GPU and a few SATA drives?

Sata drive, no. We will have to see if down grading the from x16 to x8 will have an impact on the new nVidia cards coming out. I know we were getting close to saturating PCIe 3.0 x16 under certain circumstances. On the NVMe, it depends on if you're going through the the CPU lanes or PCH lanes, but even on the CPU lanes, NVMe only uses the x4 speed.

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking I may go Z390 with a 9900k over X299 and a 7940x. I mostly game and don't plan on running SLI ever since support is getting worse and worse.

thatKingKong
New bugs? The new CPUs might still have it.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/se...hat-affect-intel-chips

There is already a thread on this.
 
https://forums.evga.com/New-Foreshadow-Intel-flaw-m2844761.aspx
 
Intel has released microcode updates for processors to stop these exploits. You be can bet any bios that goes out for the new 9000 series processors will be updated to stop these exploits.
 
You don't happen to work for CNN do you?