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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 07:40:53 (permalink)
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Z690 Classified does not booting with G.Skill Flare X5 Samsung B-die 
with one stick in any slot motherboard wont boot - 53/54 loop
with two sticks it will boot, but will see only half 
Memory works perfectly with other boards - Msi Z690 Force and Asus Z690-F Strix





Exactly the same situation as me.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 09:26:54 (permalink)
thanks for this guys, keyed in my 8000 C34 profile and voltages and posted and booted in first try. running 3D this weekend so much appreciated!!
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 09:39:38 (permalink)
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thanks for this guys, keyed in my 8000 C34 profile and voltages and posted and booted in first try. running 3D this weekend so much appreciated!!


What are your settings in the BIOS voltages llc etc. please? I'm on 2.04 and am about to make the jump to 2.05 possibly.


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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 11:00:53 (permalink)
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Z690 Classified does not booting with G.Skill Flare X5 Samsung B-die 
with one stick in any slot motherboard wont boot - 53/54 loop
with two sticks it will boot, but will see only half 
Memory works perfectly with other boards - Msi Z690 Force and Asus Z690-F Strix

I have A-die and it was not great for me at all. Like legit regressed optimisation. I have no idea if there’s something I’m doing that’s fundamentally wrong.

Unfortunately, there is a silicon lottery with memory just as there is with CPUs. And, some memory OEMs are good at SPD programming, while others should find new help or a new line of work. Just as we saw with Samsung B-die in DDR4, we are finding with DDR5. Not all M-die works well and not all A-die works well. In addition to variance in silicon quality, the XMP profiles and tertiary timings we see from some memory vendors can be messed up really bad. I actually prefer generic modules with no XMP profiles or heatsinks or RGB. Starting from scratch is a lot more work, but it produces better results. But, not being able to boot with memory default settings is a real problem. There can also be a variance in the strength of the IMC on the CPU. I have seen examples of some Alder and Rocket Lake CPUs that had good silicon quality on the core side, and lousy IMC, and vice-versa.
 
post edited by Mr. Fox - 2022/12/09 11:21:39

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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 12:21:55 (permalink)
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zippytek
thanks for this guys, keyed in my 8000 C34 profile and voltages and posted and booted in first try. running 3D this weekend so much appreciated!!


What are your settings in the BIOS voltages llc etc. please? I'm on 2.04 and am about to make the jump to 2.05 possibly.




Settings is vague, but generally what I set for my needs:

overclocking to manual, vcore override, sa override, switching frequency 650, droop -75%, disable all the tvb stuff, virtualization, etc…cpu vddq 1.4, mem vdd 1.57, vddq 1.54 and timings are fairly tight but not on the edge. Manual subs and terts. I’ll share the timings at stock cpu settings in a bit.
 

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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 13:22:49 (permalink)
Well, Graphically Challenged seems adamant that I’m doing something wrong and that there’s no way 2.03 can be better for memory OCing. I’m really curious as to what I could potentially have done wrong. Over 2-3 days I feel like there’s a low probability that I wouldn’t have eventually stumbled upon a solution given that I was able to get my A-die tune in 2.03 up and running so quickly. I’m really curious now. This is sort of a mystery by this point.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 14:38:41 (permalink)
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rulik006
Z690 Classified does not booting with G.Skill Flare X5 Samsung B-die 
with one stick in any slot motherboard wont boot - 53/54 loop
with two sticks it will boot, but will see only half 
Memory works perfectly with other boards - Msi Z690 Force and Asus Z690-F Strix





Exactly the same situation as me.


Great, so now we need to wait 2.06 with working G.skill Flare X5 
I hope this problem will be reported to bios engineers
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 14:44:08 (permalink)
Aight I’m on 2.05, I can confirm the E4 thing when trying to flash via the flashback USB port (no permanent damage though). When it happens you can just drain power and reboot to flash via BIOS. The first thing I noticed is the broken idle temp is gone. That’s a good sign.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 17:10:40 (permalink)
BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 17:31:05 (permalink)
Don't know if anyone cares, but 96GB 5600MT/s, RAM voltage is around 1.22-1.24 with everything at auto except frequency.

https://valid.x86.fr/5q5s7v

5800MT/s+

https://valid.x86.fr/ycit0m

5600MT/s w/ more tuned timings

https://valid.x86.fr/i99h0n
post edited by Zero939 - 2022/12/09 18:42:33
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 19:30:25 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.

2.05 is good, but I think there are some faulty Dark samples floating around because I have come across a few posts over the last 3 or so months mentioning severe issues with RAM relating to non-detection and stuff like that that is pretty much experience-breaking.

This BIOS seems fine. It shouldn’t, but it definitely seems better than 2.04 in every department including memory and training speed. I’m going to chalk my weirdness with 7400 being down to my 13700K IMC. I have a SP 79 (P 89) and RPL MCs tend to scale alongside P SP, so I’m going to deduce that 7400 is too borderline and I’ll get an i9 sometime later on. Unfortunately they were temporarily out of stock on the day I sold my 12900K, so I had to grab the 13700K.

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with my actual board, board-to-board variance seemed very low amongst Dark samples with 12th Gen and all we’ve changed is our IMCs and our memory ICs. I’d probably be able to 8400 if I had the right bin, it’s just one of those things. It’s disappointing that 7400 has so much re-train variance though. I maintain that 2.04 really did seem to suck though.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/09 22:56:32 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.

2.05 is good, but I think there are some faulty Dark samples floating around because I have come across a few posts over the last 3 or so months mentioning severe issues with RAM relating to non-detection and stuff like that that is pretty much experience-breaking.

This BIOS seems fine. It shouldn’t, but it definitely seems better than 2.04 in every department including memory and training speed. I’m going to chalk my weirdness with 7400 being down to my 13700K IMC. I have a SP 79 (P 89) and RPL MCs tend to scale alongside P SP, so I’m going to deduce that 7400 is too borderline and I’ll get an i9 sometime later on. Unfortunately they were temporarily out of stock on the day I sold my 12900K, so I had to grab the 13700K.

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with my actual board, board-to-board variance seemed very low amongst Dark samples with 12th Gen and all we’ve changed is our IMCs and our memory ICs. I’d probably be able to 8400 if I had the right bin, it’s just one of those things. It’s disappointing that 7400 has so much re-train variance though. I maintain that 2.04 really did seem to suck though.
My RMA is arriving tomorrow. I believe that to be the case for me. Only one of the BIOS positions is working. The other two are unflashable.


What I can't explain is why 2.03 works flawlessly and 2.04 and 2.05 have bizarre issues. I have flashed back and forth among all three and the only way everything functions correctly is if I am running 2.03. The bizarre issues are things like BIOS multiplier settings not being applied and unexplainable drops in frequency under load. I always save screenshots of BIOS settings and I know there is not something I am setting differently.

Wraith // EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N | 13900K | MSI 4090 Suprim X | 32GB DDR5 | EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | HC-500A Chiller | MO-RA3 360 D5*3 || EVGA DG-86
Banshee // ASUS Z690 Apex | 13900KF | ASROCK 6900 XT OC Formula | 32GB DDR5 | Corsair RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova D5*2 || Corsair 5000D Airflow
Half-Breed // Precision 17 7720 | 7920HQ (BGA filth) | Quadro P5000 16GB (MXM) | 32GB DDR4 || Grade A Off-Lease Refurb

 
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 03:54:21 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.

2.05 is good, but I think there are some faulty Dark samples floating around because I have come across a few posts over the last 3 or so months mentioning severe issues with RAM relating to non-detection and stuff like that that is pretty much experience-breaking.

This BIOS seems fine. It shouldn’t, but it definitely seems better than 2.04 in every department including memory and training speed. I’m going to chalk my weirdness with 7400 being down to my 13700K IMC. I have a SP 79 (P 89) and RPL MCs tend to scale alongside P SP, so I’m going to deduce that 7400 is too borderline and I’ll get an i9 sometime later on. Unfortunately they were temporarily out of stock on the day I sold my 12900K, so I had to grab the 13700K.

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with my actual board, board-to-board variance seemed very low amongst Dark samples with 12th Gen and all we’ve changed is our IMCs and our memory ICs. I’d probably be able to 8400 if I had the right bin, it’s just one of those things. It’s disappointing that 7400 has so much re-train variance though. I maintain that 2.04 really did seem to suck though.
My RMA is arriving tomorrow. I believe that to be the case for me. Only one of the BIOS positions is working. The other two are unflashable.


What I can't explain is why 2.03 works flawlessly and 2.04 and 2.05 have bizarre issues. I have flashed back and forth among all three and the only way everything functions correctly is if I am running 2.03. The bizarre issues are things like BIOS multiplier settings not being applied and unexplainable drops in frequency under load. I always save screenshots of BIOS settings and I know there is not something I am setting differently.

This I would chalk up to a board issue. Back in September while studying for something, I got into a small scuffle with bscool on OCN about this topic because of how chuffed I was with the Dark that I had grabbed at -40%. I was saying that it was the only board to buy etc. He got a bit put off because he started listing off issues Dark users were having, and when I researched this forum I realised that there must be some actually faulty samples that either have completely broken aspects, or react very badly to firmware updates.

My personal sample scared me the other day when I had that weird issue where the indicator lights would disappear and I was thrown off by the fan thing. Eventually I came to find why the fan thing was happening and I also seemed to find a conclusion to the weird dark state of the board (no it wasn’t Dark mode).

I’ve since been very relieved because I always thought that I had a good sample being that I was lucky enough never to have ran into weird issues. With 2.05, my board seems to be totally fine, but I had to settle for a 7200C34 @ 1.38V because I frankly can’t rely on my world’s worst 13700K to do 7400+ reliably. At the very least I managed to flatten out my 2s/3s nicely again at 7200 without causing clustered errors. It’s underwhelming, but efficient and reliable, and my M-die required 1.605VDD/1.515VDDQ for 7200C32 anyway, which wasn’t daily’able.

If anyone here is having strange issues with memory detection, infinite training loops, screwed up BIOS chips, or other severe issues, it is likely you have a partially or fully faulty sample and should proceed with an RMA ticket.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 04:33:32 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.

2.05 is good, but I think there are some faulty Dark samples floating around because I have come across a few posts over the last 3 or so months mentioning severe issues with RAM relating to non-detection and stuff like that that is pretty much experience-breaking.

This BIOS seems fine. It shouldn’t, but it definitely seems better than 2.04 in every department including memory and training speed. I’m going to chalk my weirdness with 7400 being down to my 13700K IMC. I have a SP 79 (P 89) and RPL MCs tend to scale alongside P SP, so I’m going to deduce that 7400 is too borderline and I’ll get an i9 sometime later on. Unfortunately they were temporarily out of stock on the day I sold my 12900K, so I had to grab the 13700K.

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with my actual board, board-to-board variance seemed very low amongst Dark samples with 12th Gen and all we’ve changed is our IMCs and our memory ICs. I’d probably be able to 8400 if I had the right bin, it’s just one of those things. It’s disappointing that 7400 has so much re-train variance though. I maintain that 2.04 really did seem to suck though.
My RMA is arriving tomorrow. I believe that to be the case for me. Only one of the BIOS positions is working. The other two are unflashable.


What I can't explain is why 2.03 works flawlessly and 2.04 and 2.05 have bizarre issues. I have flashed back and forth among all three and the only way everything functions correctly is if I am running 2.03. The bizarre issues are things like BIOS multiplier settings not being applied and unexplainable drops in frequency under load. I always save screenshots of BIOS settings and I know there is not something I am setting differently.

This I would chalk up to a board issue. Back in September while studying for something, I got into a small scuffle with bscool on OCN about this topic because of how chuffed I was with the Dark that I had grabbed at -40%. I was saying that it was the only board to buy etc. He got a bit put off because he started listing off issues Dark users were having, and when I researched this forum I realised that there must be some actually faulty samples that either have completely broken aspects, or react very badly to firmware updates.

My personal sample scared me the other day when I had that weird issue where the indicator lights would disappear and I was thrown off by the fan thing. Eventually I came to find why the fan thing was happening and I also seemed to find a conclusion to the weird dark state of the board (no it wasn’t Dark mode).

I’ve since been very relieved because I always thought that I had a good sample being that I was lucky enough never to have ran into weird issues. With 2.05, my board seems to be totally fine, but I had to settle for a 7200C34 @ 1.38V because I frankly can’t rely on my world’s worst 13700K to do 7400+ reliably. At the very least I managed to flatten out my 2s/3s nicely again at 7200 without causing clustered errors. It’s underwhelming, but efficient and reliable, and my M-die required 1.605VDD/1.515VDDQ for 7200C32 anyway, which wasn’t daily’able.

If anyone here is having strange issues with memory detection, infinite training loops, screwed up BIOS chips, or other severe issues, it is likely you have a partially or fully faulty sample and should proceed with an RMA ticket.

In this case I think it's only a software problem, the 54, 55, 7F loop existed before. The A-die sticks that stopped working with 2.04 and 2.05 worked OK with 2.03 and other computers as stated by rulik006 and myself. It's not a matter of bios config or settings I would say, as only one stick is detected on BIOS with the 2.04 and 2.05. I would say that the guys working the bios just need to dig deeper into it and fix it.
 
Unfortunately, RMAing is not an option for everyone I would say, as I believe I'm not alone. I live in Angola (Africa),and I have to import my gear from the US via DHL, FEDEX, UPS, etc. Shipping anything back to the US would cost me north of 400usd. If something stops working or does not work as intend I just have to put it aside and forget about it.
 
This is actually my second evga motherboard. Had a z490 dark kingpin, that first had the post code indicators stop working, and a couple of months later the board just died one day, it would no longer turn on.
 
 
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 05:39:11 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.



100%. Have only flashed bios from the bios on my board and never had any issues with looping etc. The only issue I really encountered since the RPL release was the green stick a-die boot voltage not posting. This could be worked around by booting in w m die and setting higher vdd/q, but it was fixed in 2.02
 
I get that it's frustrating, but there was a LOT of noise in the bios threads the last week or 2. Cheers to the bios team for filtering out the noise and delivering something solid. Looking forward to getting on z790 this week!
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 06:00:59 (permalink)
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BIOS 2.05 is ROCK SOLID. I have tried everything to reproduce some of the issues being produced here and can’t no matter what I do, and likely EVGA won’t be able to either.

If your having issues I honestly have no Idea what to tell you at this point. Feel free to report them, and maybe EVGA will figure out what’s going on, but you may want to try more troubleshooting first or simple things like reseating and cleaning memory.

I know this might be frustrating to hear, but almost everyone I talk to agrees 2.05 is great with massive improvements over 2.03, so it’s hard to understand why only a couple of people are seeing issues.

My only other suggestion is to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS and not Windows.

2.05 is good, but I think there are some faulty Dark samples floating around because I have come across a few posts over the last 3 or so months mentioning severe issues with RAM relating to non-detection and stuff like that that is pretty much experience-breaking.

This BIOS seems fine. It shouldn’t, but it definitely seems better than 2.04 in every department including memory and training speed. I’m going to chalk my weirdness with 7400 being down to my 13700K IMC. I have a SP 79 (P 89) and RPL MCs tend to scale alongside P SP, so I’m going to deduce that 7400 is too borderline and I’ll get an i9 sometime later on. Unfortunately they were temporarily out of stock on the day I sold my 12900K, so I had to grab the 13700K.

I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with my actual board, board-to-board variance seemed very low amongst Dark samples with 12th Gen and all we’ve changed is our IMCs and our memory ICs. I’d probably be able to 8400 if I had the right bin, it’s just one of those things. It’s disappointing that 7400 has so much re-train variance though. I maintain that 2.04 really did seem to suck though.
My RMA is arriving tomorrow. I believe that to be the case for me. Only one of the BIOS positions is working. The other two are unflashable.


What I can't explain is why 2.03 works flawlessly and 2.04 and 2.05 have bizarre issues. I have flashed back and forth among all three and the only way everything functions correctly is if I am running 2.03. The bizarre issues are things like BIOS multiplier settings not being applied and unexplainable drops in frequency under load. I always save screenshots of BIOS settings and I know there is not something I am setting differently.

This I would chalk up to a board issue. Back in September while studying for something, I got into a small scuffle with bscool on OCN about this topic because of how chuffed I was with the Dark that I had grabbed at -40%. I was saying that it was the only board to buy etc. He got a bit put off because he started listing off issues Dark users were having, and when I researched this forum I realised that there must be some actually faulty samples that either have completely broken aspects, or react very badly to firmware updates.

My personal sample scared me the other day when I had that weird issue where the indicator lights would disappear and I was thrown off by the fan thing. Eventually I came to find why the fan thing was happening and I also seemed to find a conclusion to the weird dark state of the board (no it wasn’t Dark mode).

I’ve since been very relieved because I always thought that I had a good sample being that I was lucky enough never to have ran into weird issues. With 2.05, my board seems to be totally fine, but I had to settle for a 7200C34 @ 1.38V because I frankly can’t rely on my world’s worst 13700K to do 7400+ reliably. At the very least I managed to flatten out my 2s/3s nicely again at 7200 without causing clustered errors. It’s underwhelming, but efficient and reliable, and my M-die required 1.605VDD/1.515VDDQ for 7200C32 anyway, which wasn’t daily’able.

If anyone here is having strange issues with memory detection, infinite training loops, screwed up BIOS chips, or other severe issues, it is likely you have a partially or fully faulty sample and should proceed with an RMA ticket.

In this case I think it's only a software problem, the 54, 55, 7F loop existed before. The A-die sticks that stopped working with 2.04 and 2.05 worked OK with 2.03 and other computers as stated by rulik006 and myself. It's not a matter of bios config or settings I would say, as only one stick is detected on BIOS with the 2.04 and 2.05. I would say that the guys working the bios just need to dig deeper into it and fix it.
 
Unfortunately, RMAing is not an option for everyone I would say, as I believe I'm not alone. I live in Angola (Africa),and I have to import my gear from the US via DHL, FEDEX, UPS, etc. Shipping anything back to the US would cost me north of 400usd. If something stops working or does not work as intend I just have to put it aside and forget about it.
 
This is actually my second evga motherboard. Had a z490 dark kingpin, that first had the post code indicators stop working, and a couple of months later the board just died one day, it would no longer turn on.
 
 

If it’s working on 2.03 I guess that’s not a bad end result. As long as 2.03 works fine, your sample is definitely still perfectly fit for daily use. 04 and 05 just aren’t a good fit in that regard. I know what you mean about the RMA thing, I feel it too.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 09:14:38 (permalink)
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Yeah, totally. 2.04 would have actually been acceptable for me if not for the ring clock issue. Memory overclocking was fantastic for me (Hynix M-die). I am going to revisit 2.05 when my TG Delta A-die kit arrives. If it works great I will keep the A-die. If it doesn't I will probably send it back for a refund. I am wondering if it is so optimized for A-die that it's just not any good for anything else.



 
I was able to work around the Ring ratio bug in 2.04. The behavior for me was basically just... cold booting the board would not respect the bios set point of 50x or the eleet slider in Windows.  I noticed that if you then reboot into BIOS and set the point for RING + or - 1  and repost / reboot into windows you will get the desired Cache Ratio.
 
I would rather run 7800 36 48 48 42 on 2.04 than sub 7200 on the older revs and just deal with a couple extra reboots and visits to the bios for the ring issue.
 


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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 15:21:43 (permalink)
You need 1.4 vcore to run 5.9? Is this fixed or adaptive

Should also be able to run C34 47-47-34 at 7800 w a minimal bump in voltage. Glad you worked around it tho! 2.05 should be the silver bullet
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 16:12:41 (permalink)
2.05 literally makes my 12900k+classy unusable. I couldn’t turn it off lol. Power button and windows shutdown could not turn off my rig. Everything is stock except cheap Corsair ddr5 5200 xmp profile 1.

I upgraded from 1.15 to 2.02 to get ready for raptor lake. I had to “shutdown” twice in windows to get rig to turn off. First time would make my machine reboot. Then picking shutdown would shut down. I upgrade to 2.05 hoping this would be resolved. 2.05 made it worst and I couldn’t even turn off my rig anymore. Going back to 1.15 resolved my issue.

May end up returning this board if I go raptor lake soon.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 16:21:24 (permalink)
I'm stuck on A2 as well. z690 dark, 12700k, gigabyte aorus 6000 memory. That's 2/3 bios slots down.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 16:53:35 (permalink)
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I'm stuck on A2 as well. z690 dark, 12700k, gigabyte aorus 6000 memory. That's 2/3 bios slots down.

Are you on 1.15 bios?
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 18:01:15 (permalink)
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I'm stuck on A2 as well. z690 dark, 12700k, gigabyte aorus 6000 memory. That's 2/3 bios slots down.

Are you on 1.15 bios?




no i was on 2.03
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 21:00:32 (permalink)
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Shraf2k
I'm stuck on A2 as well. z690 dark, 12700k, gigabyte aorus 6000 memory. That's 2/3 bios slots down.

Are you on 1.15 bios?




no i was on 2.03
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Unless you're using raptor lake there's no reason to use 2.x bios. Go back to 1.15
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/10 21:31:00 (permalink)
Incorrect
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 02:42:53 (permalink)
I have a Reddit thread for an issue with my 3090 GPU not working on the dark kingpin board.
I started with Bios V1.04 and then updated to V2.01. these did not help my problem.

Then i just updated to Bios v2.05 and it made it worse. on V2.05 the computer powers up (doesn't go to BIOS or windows, no motherboard beeps) and then shuts down in about 10 seconds. completely unusable.
I toggled the BIOS switch to option 2 on the motherboard and now running on that BIOS v1.04 again. 

Is anyone can take a look at my issue here:  feel it is a motherboard issue and a BIOS update may be needed to resolve it. mainly since i was able to use this 3090 GPU just find in another build without issue.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 02:47:55 (permalink)
For me, temperature readings are bugged again, similar to 2.03. I’m getting 11-12*C idle core temps with ~20*C water temp. Hence, both BIOS versions don’t work for me and 2.04 has the ring bug…with correct temperatures. CPU-Z reads Core VID instead of VCore on all three BIOS versions which is about 50mV higher than what I set in BIOS with -75% droop, all TVB options disabled. I have to look at HWiNFO VRVOUT in order to check my core voltage.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 05:15:53 (permalink)
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Incorrect


2.x bios revisions are all for 13th gen CPUs. 1.15 was perfectly stable for my 12900k for many months.
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 05:47:47 (permalink)
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Incorrect


2.x bios revisions are all for 13th gen CPUs. 1.15 was perfectly stable for my 12900k for many months.


Not true, although I totally agree you should stay with what works.
See Tech_LeeM post here from back in October:
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3583038
 

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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 06:06:16 (permalink)
Fair enough.

While I stand corrected, my thought still holds true to only update bios when needed, either to fix something that's broken or for better stability. For those having issues on 2.x with ADL, is there much to gain by going past 1.15?
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Re: BIOS Updates for Z690 DARK K|NGP|N (2.05) / CLASSIFIED (2.05) [Ring control/vcore volt 2022/12/11 08:38:17 (permalink)
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Fair enough.

While I stand corrected, my thought still holds true to only update bios when needed, either to fix something that's broken or for better stability. For those having issues on 2.x with ADL, is there much to gain by going past 1.15?



in my opinion, not at all. people want to get the benefit of hynix a-die, and this is optimized on 2.xx bios revs...however, alder lake a-die performance is not much better than m-die 1T. if you're going to buy a decent kit of a-die to use with last gen board and cpu, just get raptor lake?
 
there's very little argument for running the newer bios for alder lake, and the only one is a-die performance. a-die *and* m-die on raptor lake is head and shoulders above alder lake. so anyone playing the contrarian to your original point (1.xx is best for ADL) is just here to argue, or hastily updated thinking the latest and greatest is best for their use case without doing the brief research to learn why this is probably not the case.
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