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2012/12/23 22:00:26 (permalink)
Remembering the AOC monitor that got the internet in a tizzy for the low price and near frame-less frame to be false.  I bring you the Asus MX279H
 
Specs are 27" with a 1920x1080 IPS
 
http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/MX279H/
 

 


 
 
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/23 22:51:05 (permalink)
    Does this deceive just a wee bit?  The bezel is thin but the usable display doesn't stretch that far.

    Still, I guess they were doing the market analysis this whole time if they plan to debut that thing; but price is still an issue, we don't know their break-even; if the price is high that would indicate they don't think the market is very wide.  
     
    Depends on people's need for it; if they don't mind the technological illusion similar to the Dell S2340M.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/23 22:52:29 (permalink)
    Unlike AOC however Asus is more upfront about it.
     
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/23 23:29:58 (permalink)
    What a shame.  Only 1080.  I game with my PC to use resolutions higher than what a console can achieve. 

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/23 23:37:03 (permalink)
    Flybye

    What a shame.  Only 1080.  I game with my PC to use resolutions higher than what a console can achieve. 

     
    The only reason why I posted this was for "Borderless" for people who hate the bezel being in the way when they go Surround/Eye.

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 15:15:37 (permalink)
    I'm too happy with my LG monitor to switch to anything new unless it's truly bezel-less. 


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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 15:48:57 (permalink)
    Does look nice, didn't catch the refresh rate though

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 15:50:25 (permalink)
    Its 5ms GTG

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 16:18:05 (permalink)
    Well actually I ment is it the 60hz or 120hz monitor. Isnt that the response time?

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 16:27:06 (permalink)
    Nah that's the refresh rate.
     
    UK website that's selling it states that its 59~70hz.

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 18:53:32 (permalink)
    No the 5ms is the response time, Refresh Rate is completely different. Just to clear up the confusion.
     
    Response time is the measure in time for a pixel to go from grey to white to grey.
    Refresh rate is done syncing the picture with the line frequency of typically 60 or 120 hertz
     
    I can clearly see that in the specs.
    Response Time : 5ms
     
    So I guess I skimmed over this part
    Signal Frequency: 30~80 KHz(H)/ 56~76 Hz(V)
    Since its not your typical 60hz or 120hz Refresh rate

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 19:01:35 (permalink)
    And then input lag is a whole other bag of worms.
    Honestly what pisses me off the most when shopping for a monitor is contrast ratio, they hide the actual number and give you Dynamic contrast ratio, which is a meaningless number with no metric, even internally in a company.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 19:20:43 (permalink)
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    No the 5ms is the response time, Refresh Rate is completely different. Just to clear up the confusion.

    Response time is the measure in time for a pixel to go from grey to white to grey.
    Refresh rate is done syncing the picture with the line frequency of typically 60 or 120 hertz

    I can clearly see that in the specs.
    Response Time : 5ms

    So I guess I skimmed over this part
    Signal Frequency: 30~80 KHz(H)/ 56~76 Hz(V)
    Since its not your typical 60hz or 120hz Refresh rate

     
    Had it confused, thanks for clearing that up.

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/24 19:51:00 (permalink)
    Flybye

    What a shame.  Only 1080.  I game with my PC to use resolutions higher than what a console can achieve. 

    Game consoles cant game at 1920x1080 without a serious performance hit with the exception of maybe the Wii U. They may upscale to that resolution but the vast majority of today's games are actually rendered at 1280x720 or less.

     
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 03:00:56 (permalink)
    If I look at the price for a 27inch monitor this is highly competitive in that market genre.

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 03:07:39 (permalink)
    By the way I fixed your youtube link
     
    If someone wants to send me a belated Christmas present then that monitor would be fine. LOL!
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 11:37:20 (permalink)
    Displays are meant to be turned on and viewed and the edge of the display to the viewable area should define the bezel. Anyone saying anything different has a marketing degree and is used to shoveling nonsense at people for a living.
     
    Do not be surprised or disappointed when you all find out the bezel size is nowhere near that thin in real pics.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 11:46:02 (permalink)
    lehpron Depends on people's need for it; if they don't mind the technological illusion similar to the Dell S2340M.

     
    Dell is screwing around with users too. Don't trust photoshopped marketing pics.
     


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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 11:50:59 (permalink)
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 11:56:38 (permalink)
    How is it possibly legal for them to advertise with photoshopped images that mislead the consumer?
     
     

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 12:02:26 (permalink)
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    lehpron Depends on people's need for it; if they don't mind the technological illusion similar to the Dell S2340M.
    Dell is screwing around with users too. Don't trust photoshopped marketing pics.
    Hence, illusion; display manufacturers seems to be redefining the bezel for their convenience.  I found the 27" version of that Dell a while back, and posted a warning thread in multi-monitor subforum about the deceit, but I'm not really sure how many took heed.
     
    But no company bets the farm anymore, they are only doing it because their target audience doesn't care; a trend I've noticed for years regarding how many continue to settle when features are taken away very slowly, as if it isn't that bad therefore we should go with the flow.  It is similar to the analogy about boiling water and a frog.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 13:01:54 (permalink)
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    How is it possibly legal for them to advertise with photoshopped images that mislead the consumer?

    It's been standard practice as long as Photoshop has existed. Back in 1998-2002 I was a production artist that would do this all the time for catalog embedded pictures. Problem is the manufacturer typically gives you a picture with the display turned off. The production artist merely guesses where the viewable area is on the doctored pics. In these cases they're assuming wrong and dumping in pics at full bezel edge size when that is incorrect. The manufacturer never corrects the error and chalks it up as not their fault. Typical pass the buck with no one as a victim in their eyes. The whole reason why it's done is because the real output on the monitor is never as sharp and clear as a photoshop simulated picture is. They want to present their product in the best light -- even if that light is misdirection.
     
    Where they cross the line though is the deliberate miscommunication and repurposing of what a bezel is. This is firmly on their marketing department's head. Someone had to of come up with this and got it OKed. It's false advertizing.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 13:13:36 (permalink)
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    By the way I fixed your youtube link

    If someone wants to send me a belated Christmas present then that monitor would be fine. LOL!

     
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    lehpron Depends on people's need for it; if they don't mind the technological illusion similar to the Dell S2340M.


    Dell is screwing around with users too. Don't trust photoshopped marketing pics.

     
    /sigh Brad to the rescue.  Damn shame that we can't have a borderless monitor.

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/25 13:16:43 (permalink)
    The Samsung Eyefinity LCDs are pretty close. I remember using them when I assisted AMD at CES 2011. They looked rather impressive to me. The Samsung MD230. These were out long ago though. Looks like you can find them street price for around $550 each.
     

     
    Essentially what they're doing though is de-bezeling the panel and putting all controls on the rear. You can do this with almost any panel, a bit of painters masking tape and some black rattle can to make the panel edges and back black. Be very careful how you paint though. WSGF users do this all the time. Be mindful that the panel have a decent back panel that you can VESA mount to though. Those de-bezeling the 1440p Korean LG panels are the most impressive lately. Not for the faint-of-heart DIYer though.
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/26 05:54:08 (permalink)
    Im still worried by the lack of Windows 8 Certified Touch Monitors.
    And the ones that exist from Acer and Dell are about $700 for a 23" 1920x1080...
    I could buy 4 of my Viewsonic 2250WM's for that much.
    And I already have 2... 

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/27 15:04:47 (permalink)
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    What a shame.  Only 1080.  I game with my PC to use resolutions higher than what a console can achieve. 

    Game consoles cant game at 1920x1080 without a serious performance hit with the exception of maybe the Wii U. They may upscale to that resolution but the vast majority of today's games are actually rendered at 1280x720 or less.

    This is very true.  I remember reading Gears of War for the 360 was only at 1280x720.
    Then I played it at 1920x1200 on my pc with AA and AS...

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/27 21:29:48 (permalink)
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    Flybye

    What a shame.  Only 1080.  I game with my PC to use resolutions higher than what a console can achieve. 

    Game consoles cant game at 1920x1080 without a serious performance hit with the exception of maybe the Wii U. They may upscale to that resolution but the vast majority of today's games are actually rendered at 1280x720 or less.

    This is very true.  I remember reading Gears of War for the 360 was only at 1280x720.
    Then I played it at 1920x1200 on my pc with AA and AS...

     
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/30 04:57:40 (permalink)
    I really dig the slim-bezel monitors. And the ASUS is IPS display. But 1080p... come on :s
    At least make a 16:10 (1920 x 1200) 22-23" display! PLEASE ME, ASUS!

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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/30 06:52:47 (permalink)
    Here's a review and that review doesn't recommend this model for gaming:
     
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    Re:Asus to launch a near borderless Monitor? 2012/12/30 09:16:43 (permalink)
    That monitor does look nice. I would consider it if the resolution was higher. Just seems like another 1080p monitor to hit a already flooded market. The bezels are nice but its only a issue if your running surround.  Then even thats not a big deal since you can just tuck a monitor behind another and achieve the same thing. They really need to start pumping some higher res/ higher refresh rate displays thats where the variety is missing.

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