Hopefully this bumps Nvidia's stock.

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85
Hopefully this bumps Nvidia's stock.

I could care less. Many of the tech stocks already bumped way too much as it is, for current economic conditions. I got out.
Who cares about NVIDIA's stock price which is already up 160% compared to a year ago? Don't you care about ARM? Don't you care about that market, and that section of the industry which NVIDIA will probably ruin?

No, I care about IBM, AAPL and NVDA.

ty_ger07
Wow. Shallow and heartless. Better bump that 160% to 165%. Who cares about everyone else.

Who exactly am I supposed to care for, the multimillionaire executive board of ARM who will receive a golden parachute as a reault of being bought out by a more innovative chipmaker? Nor should anyone feel bad for someone who loses money gambling on the more innovative chipmaker.

boo!

flyingtoaster85

ty_ger07
Wow. Shallow and heartless. Better bump that 160% to 165%. Who cares about everyone else.

Who exactly am I supposed to care for, the multimillionaire executive board of ARM who will receive a golden parachute as a reault of being bought out by a more innovative chipmaker? Nor should anyone feel bad for someone who loses money gambling on the more innovative chipmaker.

Neither. Care for the consumers and the maker space which is going to be flushed down the drain.

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85

ty_ger07
Wow. Shallow and heartless. Better bump that 160% to 165%. Who cares about everyone else.

Who exactly am I supposed to care for, the multimillionaire executive board of ARM who will receive a golden parachute as a reault of being bought out by a more innovative chipmaker? Nor should anyone feel bad for someone who loses money gambling on the more innovative chipmaker.

Neither. Care for the consumers and the maker space which is going to be flushed down the drain.

Once Nvidia starts adding SoCs to their boards, graphics cards, CPUs, RAM and motherboards will cease to exist as you know them. The Nvidia board will be the entire computer. AMD will do the same thing, but be the bargain option as usual. Think of the performance potential. They won’t even be called PCs any more, they’ll be called Nvidias. Think of the shareholders.

ty_ger07
All of the makers and cottage industries will be in ruin.  But don't worry about them.  Don't think about the passionate individuals who just barely scrape by to produce a locally-assembled product.  Think about the rich people; that's who matters most.  Gotta turn that 160% annual growth into 165%.  That way we can all buy a gadget which no one else can afford to produce or understand.  Grow fat and lazy and don't try to make anything.  That is the measure of success.
 
Or think of the humans.
 
I really hope that it falls through.  I hope so badly that the EU will dispute it.  If it does go through, I hope that the EU will at least block sales in Europe at some point allowing some other company to rise up and create competition.  If there is no competition, this is going to be bad for the majority.

Not sure what you mean but ARM is British, not European. Europe has a tremendous cottage industry that nobody appreciates more than me. Cuckoo clocks, bongs, beer, wine, lederhosen. But when it comes to tech, they need to innovate like China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, UK, US.

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85
 
Not sure what you mean but ARM is British, not European.

What is your point?  Are you serious?  That is irrelevant! I am saying that the EU is very concerned about level playing fields and consumer protections, and what I am saying is completely irrespective of Arm's origins.  I am hoping that the EU blocks FUTURE Arm sales due to stiff EU anti-competitive laws so that a new competitor can rise from the ashes to fill the void that Arm used to fill before NVIDIA destroyed Arm's identity and purpose.

Europe has a tremendous cottage industry that nobody appreciates more than me. Cuckoo clocks, bongs, beer, wine, lederhosen. But when it comes to tech, they need to innovate like China, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, UK, US.

Again, WHAT?!!?!?  Are you serious?  Are you daft?  I am talking about the maker space! You know.w.w..w.w..w  The products WHICH HAVE BEEN MADE WITH ARM SOCs.  Woww...
It's not about Europe or Britain or Taiwan or Korea or the USA or anything like that.  It is about ARM being a very good low-budget SOC used by makers to create incredibly innovative devices which will almost certainly no longer exist once NVIDIA has control of ARM.
 
 
It's almost as if you know absolutely nothing about Arm and are solely interested in an extra 5% profit.

Idk if you understand or accept how trade or publicly traded companies work. If ARM was not so concerned with profit, why didn’t the CEO hold 51% of the company’s shares? When more innovative publicly traded companies absorb less innovative ones, we all win.

knightsilver
One company I hate worse than Apple and thats Nvidia! Hope yall dont mind paying $2K for a $200 iphone/phone in a few years time or less. Unless the U.S. brings back more chip manmanufacturing, yall better be ready to pay 5000% markups.....

Not sure if you hate Apple or hate America. The fastest SoC is $400 and it’s an Apple.

NVIDIA CPUs Could Become A Reality In The Foreseeable Future, Teases CEO Jensen
 
 

NVIDIA CEO Teases Its Own CPUs In The Foreseeable Future, A Future With All Three Giants In The CPU Segment?

The interview has some interesting key points with the most important one being what NVIDIA is planning to do with its ARM branch. According to Jensen, the acquisition of ARM opens up a lot of doors for NVIDIA to explorer.
 
“Will you actually take an implementation of something like Neoverse first and make an Nvidia-branded CPU to drive it into the data center? Will you actually make the reference chip for those who just want it and actually help them run it?”
 
Timothy Prickett Morgan (The Next Platform)
 
“Well, the first of all you’ve made an amazing observation, which is all three options are possible. So now with our backing and Arm’s serious backing, the world can stand on that foundation and realize that they can build server CPUs. Now, some people would like to license the cores and build a CPU themselves. Some people may decide to license the cores and ask us to build those CPUs or modify ours.”
“It is not possible for one company to build every single version of them,” Huang continued, “but we will have the entire network of partners around Arm that can take the architectures we come up with and depending on what’s best for them, whether licensing the core, having a semi-custom chip made, or having a chip that we made, any of those any of those options are available. Any of those options are available, we’re open for business and we would like the ecosystem to be as rich as possible, with as many options as possible.”
 
Jensen Huang (NVIDIA CEO) via Tom's Hardware
 
As per the interview, Jensen states that they are not only open for custom orders but also for CPUs developed solely by them. It is clearly stated that datacenter seems to be the first market that NVIDIA would like to tackle. NVIDIA will also develop its own ecosystem around the CPUs whether it be for datacenter applications or more consumer-oriented platforms. With that said, this also opens up the possibility of a future lineup dedicated towards the consumer segment where Intel & AMD have dominated for several decades.
 
https://wccftech.com/nvid...arm-teased-ceo-jensen/

How do you know Nvidia won’t allow ARM as a subsidiary to continue to supply low cost embedded solutions to other companies? They just invested $40 billion in ARM. This is good. You act like ARM is some mom and pop shop, but they are a semiconductor company owned by a Japanese bank. Now they will be owned by a California semiconductor company. Everyone wins.

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85
How do you know Nvidia won’t allow ARM as a subsidiary to continue to supply low cost embedded solutions to other companies?

I don't, but I think that the IP is way more important to NVIDIA than Arm's past product line.  I expect NVIDIA to gut and axe a lot of the past product line and use the IP to produce new expensive products.  Time will tell.  

+1 acquire the thread to eliminate competition.

rjohnson11

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85
How do you know Nvidia won’t allow ARM as a subsidiary to continue to supply low cost embedded solutions to other companies?

I don't, but I think that the IP is way more important to NVIDIA than Arm's past product line.  I expect NVIDIA to gut and axe a lot of the past product line and use the IP to produce new expensive products.  Time will tell.  

I don't expect ARM to axe anything. What I see is NVIDIA being directly involved with establishing their GPU knowledge to build industry leading ARM CPUs for the enterprise (maybe with NVIDIA graphics). 

Exactly. Only a conspiracy theorist would believe they would spend $40 billion on a company to axe it.

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85

rjohnson11

ty_ger07

flyingtoaster85
How do you know Nvidia won’t allow ARM as a subsidiary to continue to supply low cost embedded solutions to other companies?

I don't, but I think that the IP is way more important to NVIDIA than Arm's past product line.  I expect NVIDIA to gut and axe a lot of the past product line and use the IP to produce new expensive products.  Time will tell.  

I don't expect ARM to axe anything. What I see is NVIDIA being directly involved with establishing their GPU knowledge to build industry leading ARM CPUs for the enterprise (maybe with NVIDIA graphics). 

Exactly. Only a conspiracy theorist would believe they would spend $40 billion on a company to axe it.

Not axe the company.  Axe the existing inexpensive product line.
 
Remember when you said this?

flyingtoaster85
Once Nvidia starts adding SoCs to their boards, graphics cards, CPUs, RAM and motherboards will cease to exist as you know them. The Nvidia board will be the entire computer. AMD will do the same thing, but be the bargain option as usual. Think of the performance potential. They won’t even be called PCs any more, they’ll be called Nvidias. Think of the shareholders.

 
That's what I am afraid of.  Progress is good, but at what cost?  Can you see NVIDIA still maintaining an inexpensive Arm product line for hobbyists and a cottage industry once it has a much larger, expensive, and more profitable product line?  I can't.

I lime the idea of assembling a hobby PC. I built my first one when I was 13 with a Cyrix MII and Voodoo 3 2000. Back then high end GPUs were under $200. However, GPUs are getting so advanced that the idea of plugging a $1500 card into a $300 motherboard is kind of outdated and ridiculous. There is too much complexity and too many bottlenecks. Nvidia is taking a step toward simplifying the gaming PC and embedding everything onto one PCB. The end result will be similar to today’s consoles and laptops. Gaming PCs will be about the size of an ITX motherboard and will be covered in something that resembles a GPU heatsink.

ty_ger07
Your point?

By hobby industry do you mean Rasberry Pi? As long as Broadcomm gets ARM socs, I don’t see why that would be affected.