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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 11:36:04 (permalink)
Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? Yep
What would you like to know?

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 13:30:23 (permalink)
Finally get 5.3ghz somewhat stable to run some benches (4.2v - 1.39v on load) and my Physics score is up but I cant get the graphics score where I topped out before!

My card likes high voltages for high scores but if I use a a little too high like 1.13125v at LL1 she will lock. I can run 1.16250v at LL2 and shes fine.. but low scores. Were talking like -3/400 point is FSX.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 16:46:27 (permalink)
Grats on 5.3

Pull the the memory oc and set back to 0. Bump GPU voltage at small increments until perf stops scaling on gt2.

Then walk mem up in 200mhz increments until you loose stability or get artifacts. At that point you can either try to add a little mem voltage or back the clock down -15

Check the psu to make sure it’s not struggling to deliver adequate power across all rails

Your hitting pl. if you go overboard perf is nurffed hard. LLC of 3 allowing what looks like more power but it’s really the same or less on account of hitting pl more frequently.

Sometimes you can ride the pl and get a little more out of the card. I would suggest llc0 and a Lieberenz GPUv
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 17:50:23 (permalink)
I'll try it.. but so far when I have tried to add more mem voltage it dont seen to like it. Seems better with 1.4 or below.. heat an issue? No idea. But yeah.. take mem to 0 and see what's up.

Been trying to keep the mem around +1350/1360.. 1400+ seems to freeze up even at 1.46v. Which is somewhere close to 1.5v on load.

Really was waiting on the water block before going all out on the mem.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 20:22:29 (permalink)
Hrm. soft reboot to train @ anything more than +50mv Vmem.  Have to try vmem v adjust on my KPE 3 times on FS GT2 or TS GT2 to know if the card will settle in. Also might just be anecdotal but samsung mem seems like certain clocks but not others. So maybe 1700 is not stable but 1680 and 1720 are.
 
I did alot of work around 1.5v for the Vmem training. This way I could go from 1.45v to 1.55v without rebooting.
 
Also there appears to be a point where TPL gets involved  if VMEM and Vcore are higher than card likes. Just speculation.
 
Its like back in the day. Max Stable GPU core over clock typically does not synergize with max stable memory overclock.
 
So its more like max stable GPU Clock @ what ever the peak of memory overclock stability is for a given GPU clock.  IE at 2120GPU Clock mem can probably OC higher than at 2200 GPU Core clock. ect.  If that makes anysense.
 
 
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/13 20:50:37 (permalink)
Thanks for the info!

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 15:19:19 (permalink)
Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 15:57:03 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 16:26:58 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 16:33:27 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.


Oh.. you paid up for one of those?

Ek making a water block for the titans?

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 16:40:20 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.

Only for the ones that can't figure out the Kingpin card.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/14 16:45:32 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.


Oh.. you paid up for one of those?

Ek making a water block for the titans?


Yeah, it's not much more expensive for a titan.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 05:52:02 (permalink)
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@oscyjack nice score

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https://benchmark.unigine...0e479f93cdd2d45e130b1b


Thanks buddy, you too! Nice clocks too damn!

When I get my z390 dark in I'm hoping Ill get some more outta the CPU.

You may want to look in another direction to get more out of your CPU. That board will only loose you points. Return to sender if you can.


Is that a joke or am I missing some Info on the dark gaha
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:27:35 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.


Oh.. you paid up for one of those?

Ek making a water block for the titans?


Yeah, it's not much more expensive for a titan.


$600+ tax more.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:39:20 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.


Oh.. you paid up for one of those?

Ek making a water block for the titans?


Yeah, it's not much more expensive for a titan.


$600+ tax more.

I don't live in the USA with that orange faced trump boy, I live in the UK.
 
KINGPIN = £1899.98
TITAN RTX = £2399
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:42:38 (permalink)
What has Trump to do with this Thread?
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:43:28 (permalink)
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Hype has completely died down over this card it seems.


Well "if" it has, it will be back full force once the copper blocks come out. Hopefully they come out!


Meh, I replaced mine with a titan rtx last week.


Oh.. you paid up for one of those?

Ek making a water block for the titans?


Yeah, it's not much more expensive for a titan.


$600+ tax more.

I don't live in the USA with that orange faced trump boy, I live in the UK.
 
KINGPIN = £1899.98
TITAN RTX = £2399


MAGA lol

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:44:00 (permalink)
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What has Trump to do with this Thread?


He's bitter now I guess.

Maybe Trump gave a thumbs up to the K|NGP|N card? It is capitalism after all.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 08:55:01 (permalink)
So. I am still hyped, just in purgatory until some parts come in. More QDC's, a heatkiller for the 2700x, the EK G92 bracket, 55Gal drum of Vaseline...
 
I am pretty sure I got every inch out of my KPE on the Z390 Dark @ ambient.
 
 
RMA'd that horrible Z390 Aorus Master I was using as a daily driver on account of it probably being screwed up since I purchased it. I just dealt with it cause I hate RMA'ing... Anyhooo The darn thing refused to stick to a bios. There are a couple of switches on it. 1 to enable/disable multi bios mode and 1 to select bios master/slave. Didn't matter if Multibios was enabled or disabled. It would randomly cold boot a different bios 3 out of 5 attempts. SO annoying...
 
Also in CPU Purgatory. Would be irresponsible to purchase 7980xe with Zen 2 around the corner. At least need to test a 3850x before deciding on Intel.
 
I am still dedicated to benching the 2700x with the KPE. Wify has plans for the entire weekend so UGH.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 11:25:32 (permalink)
Oh the hype is still real. I've just been busy with my 2nd full time job playing Mordhau. Got about 60 hours in the past week and a half. Now I am just trying to learn/find the right recording software so I can start posting videos showing the card off.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:05:25 (permalink)
I have been testing out the second card I bought with plans of selling one. This card's GPU  is less stable at the same ambient temp, but the RAM of this card is ridiculous. It can run 8900MHz with artifacts and runs 8800 at 1.5v without any artifacts.I have been running it at 8750 @ 1.48125v without any sign of instability. Card 1 can only run 8500MHz @1.51v with some slight artifacts. Scores are about the same. I have not been close this week to getting 41,7-8xxx,s Graphics FS on either card. Without stable temps, like 30C, I don't think that I can definitively pick the better card. I assume card 2 would be the card to take for sub-ambient, IDK. GPU Offsets in PX1 are much lower on card 2. Temps are 68F in this room.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:09:46 (permalink)
8800 stable.. yeah good luck deciding on which yo keep! Lol

8800mhz.. I wonder if kingpin would.want to buy that one from ya hehe

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:14:31 (permalink)
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8800 stable.. yeah good luck deciding on which yo keep! Lol

8800mhz.. I wonder if kingpin would.want to buy that one from ya hehe

I know right...If I could swap out the memory or the GPU, Id be set. It took that 8800 to keep up with card 1 running 8350 and still could not best the score by a few hundred Graphics.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:17:33 (permalink)
Running into power limit? Sure your running the xoc buos in the ln2 switch.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:18:15 (permalink)
Send both cards to evga and tell them to swap the GPU chips between the cards! Hehe

I bet it might be easier to swap the mem chips.

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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:21:37 (permalink)
I am running just the overclock bios. Most all of the testing was done with the regular bios until last night when I figured out why the pump and fan were not running as high as card 1. The card arrived in regular bios position.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:29:30 (permalink)
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I am running just the overclock bios. Most all of the testing was done with the regular bios until last night when I figured out why the pump and fan were not running as high as card 1. The card arrived in regular bios position.


Send that card to me and I'll switch the bios for you!











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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 13:42:16 (permalink)
I wish... wish I could send them both out for some testing. Sometimes when testing I see that i'm only on GT 1 when I really believe that the run was almost finished. I facepalm. And the family is loosing patience.
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 15:25:34 (permalink)
@Deficatus
 
Could just use OBS. Super simple for multi-camera. I have multiple camera's and screen capture setup in my bench "lab."
 
edit = Hrm doesn't make much sense what I said without detail so here ya go.
 
  • Camera 1 -Logi c920 - Frame = DEBUG LEDs/DMM - Direct input OBS
  • Camera 2 - Canon XF400 - Frame = Bench - HDMI Out to Elgato 4K60pro
  • Camera 3 - GoPro Hero 4 Black - Frame - Bench room - HDMI Out to hauppauge Colossus 2 - Not recommended input delay...
  • Screen Capture 1- Bench VGA HDMI 1 to Elgato HD60 Pro
  • Screen Capture 2- Bench #2 VGA adapter HDMI 1 to Razer Ripjaw - Not recommended Native 720p doo doo. Scales to 1080p
All that capture on a Ryzen 1700X, 32GB, RTX 2080 - Stream Box - OBS
Built scenes for each input as Primary and transition between them.
 
When lazy/ Mobile cut down OBS capture to
Logi 920 & Razer Ripjaw on laptop OBS.
 
 Perf when screen cap via HDMI out on bench VGA adapter is nurfed on account of only 60hz. SO annoying
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Re: Anyone figure out the Kingpin card yet? 2019/05/15 20:51:10 (permalink)
Running 8900MHz messing around with LL and PEXVDD. CPU needs delidding. Cut back to 5.3, but temps are up to 91F.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19343272/fs/19343070#
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