EVGA

AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre

Author
redleader00
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 840
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/03/26 11:02:11
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 4

29 Replies Related Threads

    Sajin
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 25980
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
    • Location: Texas, USA.
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 155
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 08:16:37 (permalink)
    o_O


    #2
    bcavnaugh
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 23588
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
    • Location: Colorado Affiliate Code: E5L3CTGE12
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 110
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 08:53:32 (permalink)
    So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
    I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.

    Be Cautious when Helping Members on this Forum, You May Offend Others. New Horizons   My HFM  DISCLAIMER: *This Post may have just Increased my Post Count*
     


    #3
    panzlock
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 605
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/11/10 17:56:33
    • Location: Canada
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 10:14:50 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
    I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.




    Same can be said for Intel fanboys:
     
    https://forums.evga.com/Intel-AMT-Security-Issue-Lets-Attackers-Bypass-Login-Credentials-m2750574.aspx
     
    #4
    the_Scarlet_one
    formerly Scarlet-tech
    • Total Posts : 16231
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 50
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 11:10:00 (permalink)
    panzlock
    bcavnaugh
    So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
    I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.




    Same can be said for Intel fanboys:
     
    https://forums.evga.com/Intel-AMT-Security-Issue-Lets-Attackers-Bypass-Login-Credentials-m2750574.aspx
     


    Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol
    #5
    NazcaC2
    EGC Admin
    • Total Posts : 6611
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/06/21 09:43:08
    • Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 25
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 11:40:27 (permalink)
    Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile. Fact is, the manufacturers are working together to get these variants resolved. Thank the groups that identified these issues in the first place.

    Off topic: And, it happened to be a fluke that the previous Intel CEO cashed in his shares prior to retiring. It wasn't related whatsoever.
    #6
    panzlock
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 605
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/11/10 17:56:33
    • Location: Canada
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 12:18:11 (permalink)
    the_Scarlet_one
    Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol



    I'll correct your confusion. Every time AMD releases something Intel fanboys break out the pitchforks. When Intel mucks up, expect the same.
     
     
    #7
    panzlock
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 605
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/11/10 17:56:33
    • Location: Canada
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 12:19:53 (permalink)
    NazcaC2
    Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile.



    Pointing one's finger because it has his/her product has 200Mhz more than another persons product is juvenile.
     
    You'd sound less juvenile if you simply said, "Pointing one's finger is juvenile".
    #8
    the_Scarlet_one
    formerly Scarlet-tech
    • Total Posts : 16231
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 50
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 12:23:14 (permalink)
    panzlock

    I'll correct your confusion. Every time AMD releases something Intel fanboys break out the pitchforks. When Intel mucks up, expect the same.
     
     


    That is very fair actually. I was mistaken, and thank you for the clarification.
    #9
    NazcaC2
    EGC Admin
    • Total Posts : 6611
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/06/21 09:43:08
    • Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 25
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 15:17:28 (permalink)
    So many commenters enjoy applauding another's choices as a negative and calling them out for them to make them sound superior.

    I never compare myself to someone else because I'm happy with what I own and the choices I've made.

    Of all of the AMD machines I've serviced in the past week, they've all had the same issue with Microsoft's KB4056894. Not a great week for either brand in the computer world this week.

    That's why the bickering I've seen in a few Spectre and Meltdown posts mentioned is pointless. No names necessary.
    #10
    bcavnaugh
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 23588
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
    • Location: Colorado Affiliate Code: E5L3CTGE12
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 110
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 15:27:49 (permalink)
    the_Scarlet_one
    panzlock
    bcavnaugh
    So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
    I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.


    Same can be said for Intel fanboys:
     
    https://forums.evga.com/Intel-AMT-Security-Issue-Lets-Attackers-Bypass-Login-Credentials-m2750574.aspx


    Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol

    Aren't We All
    Remember I have Both

    Be Cautious when Helping Members on this Forum, You May Offend Others. New Horizons   My HFM  DISCLAIMER: *This Post may have just Increased my Post Count*
     


    #11
    bcavnaugh
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 23588
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
    • Location: Colorado Affiliate Code: E5L3CTGE12
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 110
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 15:32:42 (permalink)

    Be Cautious when Helping Members on this Forum, You May Offend Others. New Horizons   My HFM  DISCLAIMER: *This Post may have just Increased my Post Count*
     


    #12
    NazcaC2
    EGC Admin
    • Total Posts : 6611
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/06/21 09:43:08
    • Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 25
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 15:46:56 (permalink)
    Lol bcav.
    #13
    Killmur
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 5050
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/12/17 23:32:46
    • Location: Arizona
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 6
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 16:02:58 (permalink)
    Considering that ALL desktop cpu manufacturers essentially share and use the same underlying x86 architecture I'm not in the least bit surprised AMD would end up admitting their products are just as vulnerable.
    #14
    QuintLeo
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 551
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/04/16 23:05:09
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 3
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 16:36:34 (permalink)
    The last time the underlying architecture was actually the SAME though for AMD and Intel was the 80486 generation - after that they started doing things different by a lot, though the INSTRUCTION SET stayed the same (with occasional additions like MMX) up to the AMD 64-bit launch (we'll ignore Itanium as the total failure it was due to no backwards compatability).
     
    Gonna be interesting to see when AMD and Intel get around to FIXING the underlying flaws that allow for this issue.
     

    I am no longer the friendly FAH competition - thank Vorsholk and his ABUSE of his Curecoin developer position for that.
     I am still big on MOOing though!
     
    #15
    fearpoint
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1802
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/12/16 21:53:57
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 17:46:21 (permalink)
    but but AMD was the chosen one*
     
    *Star Wars reference*
     

    #16
    bcavnaugh
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 23588
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
    • Location: Colorado Affiliate Code: E5L3CTGE12
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 110
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 18:50:55 (permalink)
    fearpoint
    but but AMD was the chosen one*
     
    *Star Wars reference*
     



    I was Going to say Harry Potter

    Be Cautious when Helping Members on this Forum, You May Offend Others. New Horizons   My HFM  DISCLAIMER: *This Post may have just Increased my Post Count*
     


    #17
    VegetaCreeper
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2657
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/08/04 14:49:14
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 4
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 19:09:46 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    fearpoint
    but but AMD was the chosen one*
     
    *Star Wars reference*
     



    I was Going to say Harry Potter




    That seems like a Matrix meme to me

    i5 8600k @5 ghz
    Corsair H100i V2
    MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
    16 GB DDR4 - 3000 Trident RGB
    Rosewill Cullinan MX RGB Case
    Evga GTX 980 TI SC +
    2 TB Hybrid SSHD
    Samsung 850 EVO SSD - 500 GB
    Evga 750 G3 Power Supply
    Windows 10

    "Dodgin and Weavin, Dodgin and Weavin"

    Evga Affiliate code: 9HNPZCCZDO

    #18
    bcavnaugh
    Insert Custom Title Here
    • Total Posts : 23588
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
    • Location: Colorado Affiliate Code: E5L3CTGE12
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 110
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/12 19:17:10 (permalink)
    As Well.

    Be Cautious when Helping Members on this Forum, You May Offend Others. New Horizons   My HFM  DISCLAIMER: *This Post may have just Increased my Post Count*
     


    #19
    QuintLeo
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 551
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/04/16 23:05:09
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 3
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 11:53:56 (permalink)
    No, Neo was "the one", not "the chosen one".
     
    It's actually a Jewish reference in it's roots, the Jews being "God's chosen people" in the Old Testament.
     
     

    I am no longer the friendly FAH competition - thank Vorsholk and his ABUSE of his Curecoin developer position for that.
     I am still big on MOOing though!
     
    #20
    seth89
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4815
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/13 11:26:18
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 12
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 12:20:25 (permalink)
    redleader00
    http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/45370-amd-admits-it-is-vulnerable-to-both-versions-of-spectre
     
    AMD is not much safer than Intel after all.


    still sounds the same, melt down doesn't effect them (and this seams to be the bad one) and that two others aren't as bad for them and software fixes are rolling out.

    As a AMD user at home and a Intel user at work I am having a nightmare of a time with my machine at work and if my machine at home wasn't going through a rebuild Windows would have bricked it by mistake.
    (So in other words this mainly intel issue is inadvertently effecting my AMD stuff and spectre doesn't seem to be an issue for AMD.)


                            
     
    #21
    Sajin
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 25980
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
    • Location: Texas, USA.
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 155
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 12:22:59 (permalink)
    Meltdown is easier to patch than spectre. Spectre cannot be completely blocked by software. To completely block spectre intel & amd will need to make new hardware to completely block spectre. Meltdown can be completely blocked with software patches.
    post edited by Sajin - 2018/01/13 12:29:59


    #22
    seth89
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4815
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/13 11:26:18
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 12
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 14:58:17 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Meltdown is easier to patch than spectre. Spectre cannot be completely blocked by software. To completely block spectre intel & amd will need to make new hardware to completely block spectre. Meltdown can be completely blocked with software patches.


    I would like to see if AMD will put that little encryption engine chip to more work thats present in Ryzen and EPYC.


                            
     
    #23
    Vlada011
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 8612
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/03/25 00:14:05
    • Location: Belgrade-Serbia
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 16:03:00 (permalink)
    That's not fair, I almost burned down house trying to destroy my platform and force Intel to suffer.
    This morning I upgrade to Threadripper and now I read that AMD is not clean as well. 
    #24
    NazcaC2
    EGC Admin
    • Total Posts : 6611
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/06/21 09:43:08
    • Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 25
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 18:55:38 (permalink)
    It's time to update your avatar, Vlada. Lol.
    #25
    Vlada011
    Omnipotent Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 8612
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2012/03/25 00:14:05
    • Location: Belgrade-Serbia
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 9
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/13 21:46:44 (permalink)
    One guys sad... I lost a lot, but my SSD is still Fast.
    Ahahahaaa Ahahahaaaaaa... You should read topic... that's comedy.
    Intel bug topic will break all records on communites, visit and number of pages.
     
    I can't believe what they say,... It's still fast.
    Intel turn my 960 PRO in 960 EVO but it's still fast... aaaaaahahaaaaaa...
    Can you imagine someone decide to buy 512GB 960 PRO instead of 960 EVO 1TB after Intel update he have 960 EVO 512GB.
    Ahaahahahahaaaaaaa.....But it's still fast... Yes, it's fast,.....
     
    No big deal, with performance decrease, when 1TB SSD become 256GB after successor of Skylake-X... it's time for panic.
     
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2018/01/13 21:59:40
    #26
    fearpoint
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1802
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/12/16 21:53:57
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/14 11:34:21 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    fearpoint
    but but AMD was the chosen one*
     
    *Star Wars reference*
     



    I was Going to say Harry Potter


     
     

     
    hehe
    #27
    quadlatte
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 6681
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/09/14 16:52:58
    • Location: Greensboro, NC
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 49
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/14 23:20:18 (permalink)
    i think its safe to say every one effected from this, apple, linux windows, intel, AMD, ARM ETC.... its like the black death of the tech world. 

                                   
                                                 Heatware: http://heatware.com/eval.php?id=72498
    #28
    panzlock
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 605
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/11/10 17:56:33
    • Location: Canada
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/15 11:41:25 (permalink)
    NazcaC2
    Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile.



    You point your finger and call people names. Then...
     
    NazcaC2
    No names necessary.

     
    ......Brilliant.
    #29
    panzlock
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 605
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2016/11/10 17:56:33
    • Location: Canada
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre 2018/01/15 11:45:38 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    As you Post



    The post wasn't meant to slander anything or anyone. Simply pointing out the fact that Intel is drawing more negative attention in this debacle than any other top competitor. AMD took it off the chin from Intel fanboys over everything that was marginally subpar for a long time. Expect the favour to be returned.
     
    I have no particular brand affiliation. I'm part of the performance/price demographic.
    #30
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile