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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 08:53:32
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So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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bcavnaugh
So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.
Same can be said for Intel fanboys:
https://forums.evga.com/Intel-AMT-Security-Issue-Lets-Attackers-Bypass-Login-Credentials-m2750574.aspx
Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 11:40:27
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Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile. Fact is, the manufacturers are working together to get these variants resolved. Thank the groups that identified these issues in the first place.
Off topic: And, it happened to be a fluke that the previous Intel CEO cashed in his shares prior to retiring. It wasn't related whatsoever.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 12:18:11
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Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol
I'll correct your confusion. Every time AMD releases something Intel fanboys break out the pitchforks. When Intel mucks up, expect the same.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 12:19:53
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Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile.
Pointing one's finger because it has his/her product has 200Mhz more than another persons product is juvenile. You'd sound less juvenile if you simply said, "Pointing one's finger is juvenile".
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 12:23:14
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I'll correct your confusion. Every time AMD releases something Intel fanboys break out the pitchforks. When Intel mucks up, expect the same.
That is very fair actually. I was mistaken, and thank you for the clarification.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 15:17:28
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So many commenters enjoy applauding another's choices as a negative and calling them out for them to make them sound superior.
I never compare myself to someone else because I'm happy with what I own and the choices I've made.
Of all of the AMD machines I've serviced in the past week, they've all had the same issue with Microsoft's KB4056894. Not a great week for either brand in the computer world this week.
That's why the bickering I've seen in a few Spectre and Meltdown posts mentioned is pointless. No names necessary.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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bcavnaugh
So much for all the AMD Fan Boys that have been doing nothing but poop on Intel in this Forum.
I am Not talking about our EVGA Forum Moderators.
Same can be said for Intel fanboys:
https://forums.evga.com/Intel-AMT-Security-Issue-Lets-Attackers-Bypass-Login-Credentials-m2750574.aspx
Wait wait wait... him showing that there are more vulnerabilities is considered pooping on Intel, when he has owned a plethora of intel equipment? or is it him being a fan boy? I’m super confused by this post, lol
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 16:02:58
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Considering that ALL desktop cpu manufacturers essentially share and use the same underlying x86 architecture I'm not in the least bit surprised AMD would end up admitting their products are just as vulnerable.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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The last time the underlying architecture was actually the SAME though for AMD and Intel was the 80486 generation - after that they started doing things different by a lot, though the INSTRUCTION SET stayed the same (with occasional additions like MMX) up to the AMD 64-bit launch (we'll ignore Itanium as the total failure it was due to no backwards compatability).
Gonna be interesting to see when AMD and Intel get around to FIXING the underlying flaws that allow for this issue.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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but but AMD was the chosen one* *Star Wars reference* 
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/12 19:09:46
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but but AMD was the chosen one*
*Star Wars reference*
I was Going to say Harry Potter
That seems like a Matrix meme to me
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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No, Neo was "the one", not "the chosen one".
It's actually a Jewish reference in it's roots, the Jews being "God's chosen people" in the Old Testament.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 12:20:25
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http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/45370-amd-admits-it-is-vulnerable-to-both-versions-of-spectre
AMD is not much safer than Intel after all.
still sounds the same, melt down doesn't effect them (and this seams to be the bad one) and that two others aren't as bad for them and software fixes are rolling out. As a AMD user at home and a Intel user at work I am having a nightmare of a time with my machine at work and if my machine at home wasn't going through a rebuild Windows would have bricked it by mistake. (So in other words this mainly intel issue is inadvertently effecting my AMD stuff and spectre doesn't seem to be an issue for AMD.)
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 12:22:59
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Meltdown is easier to patch than spectre. Spectre cannot be completely blocked by software. To completely block spectre intel & amd will need to make new hardware to completely block spectre. Meltdown can be completely blocked with software patches.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 14:58:17
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Meltdown is easier to patch than spectre. Spectre cannot be completely blocked by software. To completely block spectre intel & amd will need to make new hardware to completely block spectre. Meltdown can be completely blocked with software patches.
I would like to see if AMD will put that little encryption engine chip to more work thats present in Ryzen and EPYC.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 16:03:00
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That's not fair, I almost burned down house trying to destroy my platform and force Intel to suffer. This morning I upgrade to Threadripper and now I read that AMD is not clean as well. 
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 18:55:38
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It's time to update your avatar, Vlada. Lol.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/13 21:46:44
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One guys sad... I lost a lot, but my SSD is still Fast. Ahahahaaa Ahahahaaaaaa... You should read topic... that's comedy. Intel bug topic will break all records on communites, visit and number of pages. I can't believe what they say,... It's still fast. Intel turn my 960 PRO in 960 EVO but it's still fast... aaaaaahahaaaaaa... Can you imagine someone decide to buy 512GB 960 PRO instead of 960 EVO 1TB after Intel update he have 960 EVO 512GB. Ahaahahahahaaaaaaa.....But it's still fast... Yes, it's fast,..... No big deal, with performance decrease, when 1TB SSD become 256GB after successor of Skylake-X... it's time for panic.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/14 11:34:21
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fearpoint
but but AMD was the chosen one*
*Star Wars reference*
I was Going to say Harry Potter
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/14 23:20:18
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i think its safe to say every one effected from this, apple, linux windows, intel, AMD, ARM ETC.... its like the black death of the tech world.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
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Pointing one's finger, mocking another for kicks because they weren't as affected is juvenile.
You point your finger and call people names. Then... NazcaC2
No names necessary.
......Brilliant.
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Re: AMD admits it is vulnerable to both versions of Spectre
2018/01/15 11:45:38
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As you Post
The post wasn't meant to slander anything or anyone. Simply pointing out the fact that Intel is drawing more negative attention in this debacle than any other top competitor. AMD took it off the chin from Intel fanboys over everything that was marginally subpar for a long time. Expect the favour to be returned. I have no particular brand affiliation. I'm part of the performance/price demographic.
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