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2019/05/23 14:38:41 (permalink)
AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked – 8 Shader Engines, 2560 SPs & 256-bit Bus
 
Before we get into the juicy bits as it were, we should first point out that this leak is courtesy of venerable leaker KOMACHI, although his tweet has since been taken down we’ve managed to grab a hold of all the tasty bits. Before we proceed it goes without saying that you should definitely take this upcoming information with a grain of salt, as always nothing is confirmed until we actually have the hardware in our hands.
So without any further ado, let’s dig in.
Navi Allegedly Brings New Shader Engine Design For Better Compute Unit Utilization Efficiency & Higher Pixel Throughput
AMD Navi 10 Diagram by KOMACHI
According to this leak, as well as our own sources, the Navi chip features 40 compute units, each housing 64 stream processors. The new previously unknown detail that this leak brings to the table is that Navi allegedly features 8 shader engines. Each of these engines will house 5 compute units and a raster back-end. Normally, in existing GCN GPUs, a raster back-end would include 16 Render Output Units, or ROPs for short. So it’s unclear if Navi 10 will feature 128 ROPs or if the company is cutting down the number of ROPs per render back-end with Navi.
Now, the number of sahder engines in Navi is actually a significant detail because one of the major architectural limitations of AMD’s previous GCN implementations is the inability to scale the microarchitecture beyond 4 shader engines per die. This has led to underutilization of stream processors in the company’s bigger GPUs such as Fiji and Vega and has long been a known limitation of GCN that the company was working to develop solutions to.
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/23 14:50:24 (permalink)
    AMD has trash naming schemes. They literally can’t compete so they try to make their product sound better through naming it higher than the people that show the how it is done.

    I wish AMD would lose money strictly on naming schemes alone.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/23 14:58:21 (permalink)
    how about them stealing naming schemes too
    alwqys changing to sound like Nvidia
     

     
       


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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/23 18:19:44 (permalink)
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    AMD has trash naming schemes. They literally can’t compete so they try to make their product sound better through naming it higher than the people that show the how it is done.

    I wish AMD would lose money strictly on naming schemes alone.

    oh come on! Don't hate the player, hate the game of Memes from Nvidia. They started it and now AMD is following it

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 06:29:20 (permalink)
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    how about them stealing naming schemes too
    alwqys changing to sound like Nvidia
     




    What naming schemes did AMD steal?
     
     
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 09:44:28 (permalink)
    I could care less what they name it. If it performs I'm happy.
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 12:25:54 (permalink)
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    how about them stealing naming schemes too
    alwqys changing to sound like Nvidia
     




    What naming schemes did AMD steal?
     
     


    Having the 3080 to try to confuse people looking at a 2080. They might as well just call it the 3080 Titanium for how they are stealing the naming system.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 12:28:38 (permalink)
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    how about them stealing naming schemes too
    alwqys changing to sound like Nvidia
     




    What naming schemes did AMD steal?
     
     


    Having the 3080 to try to confuse people looking at a 2080. They might as well just call it the 3080 Titanium for how they are stealing the naming system.



    Not sure you understand theft.
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 13:57:36 (permalink)
    Hoggle meant to say that the major model numbers may confuse buyers because they're so similar to their competitor. NVIDIA will still have a 3080 more than likely, though AMD having a 3 at the beginning will probably fool some of the non-technical crowd for some time.
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 19:57:23 (permalink)
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    how about them stealing naming schemes too
    alwqys changing to sound like Nvidia





    What naming schemes did AMD steal?




    Having the 3080 to try to confuse people looking at a 2080. They might as well just call it the 3080 Titanium for how they are stealing the naming system.



    Not sure you understand theft.


    Apparently he does not. I do not pay mind about the name of the GPU, i would rather focus about the performance it provides.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 20:21:32 (permalink)
    Looks like, if theres any truth to this, that Nvidias "Super" will probably be a new Titan card I bet to firmly keep the top spot and try to pull some momentum from AMD. They saw what happened to Intel when they got lazy and complacent and im sure they don't want to be part of that story.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 20:54:11 (permalink)
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    Looks like, if theres any truth to this, that Nvidias "Super" will probably be a new Titan card I bet to firmly keep the top spot and try to pull some momentum from AMD. They saw what happened to Intel when they got lazy and complacent and im sure they don't want to be part of that story.




    I think you're right about the timing on this.  They want to snuff up some hype and PR from AMD.  Smart. lol

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 22:32:49 (permalink)
    Really in a way it’s kind of stealing to have NVIDIA have a long standing numbering system in which the next generation would be 3080 for the high end cards. AMD clearly changed from its naming system to NVIDIA naming system. Now NVIDIA will have to consider if they want to use 3080 while AMD releases a 4080. That is what I mean by “stolen” since it’s very unlikely NVIDIA would use the same naming system anymore after this.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/24 23:16:01 (permalink)
    What AMD is going to try and do is make a video card capable at competing with the RTX 2070 at lower cost. NVIDIA will counter with an announcement at Computex 2019 in which they will beef up their existing cards. 

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 00:13:10 (permalink)
    if competition driver better hardware & lower prices 
     
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 01:32:58 (permalink)
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    What AMD is going to try and do is make a video card capable at competing with the RTX 2070 at lower cost. NVIDIA will counter with an announcement at Computex 2019 in which they will beef up their existing cards. 




    I am wondering if AMD goes 3080 do you think NVIDIA will change the naming for the Super? I am wondering if this will lead to "Super Street 2080Ti Hyper Gaming The New Challenger Arcade Edition" since after you add Super to a product you might as well commit and go full Street Fighter 2.
     
    All joking aside do you think that NVIDIA would counter with a name change to these "Super" cards if they found out AMD is going 3080?
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 01:51:39 (permalink)
    Won't they have trademarked or w/e those numbers for their next gen or next two gen of GPUs by now or years prior?  Only tells me they might be doing something else.   We shall see. lol

    The Niece and the Uncle could be going at it! lol  Grab your popcorn and realize we're all probably being played fools. lol
     

     
     

     
     

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 07:18:24 (permalink)
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    Really in a way it’s kind of stealing to have NVIDIA have a long standing numbering system in which the next generation would be 3080 for the high end cards. AMD clearly changed from its naming system to NVIDIA naming system. Now NVIDIA will have to consider if they want to use 3080 while AMD releases a 4080. That is what I mean by “stolen” since it’s very unlikely NVIDIA would use the same naming system anymore after this.

    Completely agree, and IF it's true that AMD are doing 3080 naming convention, they are highly likely to be facing litigation from NVidia, and a serious backlash from the gaming community in general, as it's blatantly clear they would be trying to capitalize on NVidia's success (that was my immediate reaction as soon as I saw 3080). What would make me laugh is if NVidia sued and won (which I am almost certain they would) and AMD had to take ALL their stock off shelves and rename it. AMD could be shooting themselves in the foot big time to go ahead with this.
     
    Looking online, I see the leaks suggest the series as Radeon RX 3080, RX 3070 and RX 3060, which makes it even more clear they are ripping off NVidia's naming convention. No way in hell NVidia would let that stand. All I can see from AMD is that it's called "Navi" though, so this may all be bs...  and if it's not, SHAME ON YOU AMD - I for one would not pay for blatant thievery like that even if it was a better product.
     
     
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 16:34:37 (permalink)
      Let's go into therapist mode, does having higher expectations of Navi to influence nVidia let anyone down?  So you go after the naming scheme because you have nothing else to complain about.  Here's an idea, don't worry about it.  This isn't about nVidia, this is about you.

    After two years, even Intel just adjusts chipset names despite AMD taking similar number schemes, but they don't care; I'm saying nVidia doesn't care either.  These companies know more about their competitors than any rumors we find online, it isn't like nVidia didn't know this was coming.  But they don't seem to be doing anything about it, why?  Because it isn't a big deal.

    AMD is just aligning their CPU and GPU naming schemes with 7nm, both 3k series.  

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 17:28:45 (permalink)
    If Nvidia sue AMD for the name scheme, i have my false advertisement lawsuit ready and waiting to be filed to Nvidia

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 17:41:13 (permalink)
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      Let's go into therapist mode, does having higher expectations of Navi to influence nVidia let anyone down?  So you go after the naming scheme because you have nothing else to complain about.  Here's an idea, don't worry about it.  This isn't about nVidia, this is about you.

    Trying to think of an appropriate response, but all that was running through my head was "douchebag", so I guess I'll just go with that. lol.
     
     

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 17:43:49 (permalink)
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      Let's go into therapist mode, does having higher expectations of Navi to influence nVidia let anyone down?  So you go after the naming scheme because you have nothing else to complain about.  Here's an idea, don't worry about it.  This isn't about nVidia, this is about you.

    After two years, even Intel just adjusts chipset names despite AMD taking similar number schemes, but they don't care; I'm saying nVidia doesn't care either.  These companies know more about their competitors than any rumors we find online, it isn't like nVidia didn't know this was coming.  But they don't seem to be doing anything about it, why?  Because it isn't a big deal.

    AMD is just aligning their CPU and GPU naming schemes with 7nm, both 3k series.  


    Really I would be afraid the benchmarks are not that great so they are trying to go after NVIDIA naming in hopes of clearing inventory. On the other hand if the numbers are good for benchmarks they might be trying to price really high to look better then a 2080. Both options probably won’t be great for gamers.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 17:49:57 (permalink)
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      Let's go into therapist mode, does having higher expectations of Navi to influence nVidia let anyone down?  So you go after the naming scheme because you have nothing else to complain about.  Here's an idea, don't worry about it.  This isn't about nVidia, this is about you.

    After two years, even Intel just adjusts chipset names despite AMD taking similar number schemes, but they don't care; I'm saying nVidia doesn't care either.  These companies know more about their competitors than any rumors we find online, it isn't like nVidia didn't know this was coming.  But they don't seem to be doing anything about it, why?  Because it isn't a big deal.

    AMD is just aligning their CPU and GPU naming schemes with 7nm, both 3k series.  


    .....RX stands for Ray X tracing no more...lol....no wait a tick  If you spell backwards it spells X_Ray-man. The Mod predicted the name of the new AMD flagship all along. His stock when up a a notch. He was on a -1, now he is at reset donut.

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 18:05:09 (permalink)
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    Really in a way it’s kind of stealing to have NVIDIA have a long standing numbering system in which the next generation would be 3080 for the high end cards. AMD clearly changed from its naming system to NVIDIA naming system. Now NVIDIA will have to consider if they want to use 3080 while AMD releases a 4080. That is what I mean by “stolen” since it’s very unlikely NVIDIA would use the same naming system anymore after this.


    Long standing? No, not long standing.

    480, 580, 680, 780, press skip, 980, 1080, press skip 9 times, 2080..

    The 1180 would have been “long standing” for the numbering scheme. I just think it is pretty pathetic of AMD to attempt to name their product strictly to disrupt naming since they can not compete head to head. X399 and 3080 would be the prime examples of the 3080 crap is true. But...

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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 18:13:05 (permalink)
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    Really in a way it’s kind of stealing to have NVIDIA have a long standing numbering system in which the next generation would be 3080 for the high end cards. AMD clearly changed from its naming system to NVIDIA naming system. Now NVIDIA will have to consider if they want to use 3080 while AMD releases a 4080. That is what I mean by “stolen” since it’s very unlikely NVIDIA would use the same naming system anymore after this.


    Long standing? No, not long standing.

    480, 580, 680, 780, press skip, 980, 1080, press skip 9 times, 2080..

    The 1180 would have been “long standing” for the numbering scheme. I just think it is pretty pathetic of AMD to attempt to name their product strictly to disrupt naming since they can not compete head to head. X399 and 3080 would be the prime examples of the 3080 crap is true. But...

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    If Nvidia sue AMD for the name scheme, i have my false advertisement lawsuit ready and waiting to be filed to Nvidia


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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/25 21:20:55 (permalink)
    Nvidia sueing AMD would be silly since there already is a recent trademark case with the 586 (pentium 1). 
     
    Anyways that silly comment aside, Honestly it makes it easier to compare rather then more confusing imo.
    Going off names where the hell does vega 10, 20, 56, 64, 7 sit in a product stack next to nividia? Hell 7 you would assume to be less then 10.
    At least with 2080 and 3080 you know they are the same tier of product with the xx80 name. especially if the RX 3080 beats the RTX 2080. Thing is it would be weird to conflate the two when you had the logo between them. Like why would someone assume a samsung s4 is the same as an apple 4s?
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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/26 00:02:28 (permalink)
    atfrico
    If Nvidia sue AMD for the name scheme, i have my false advertisement lawsuit ready and waiting to be filed to Nvidia
     




     
     

     
     

     
    the_Scarlet_one

    Long standing? No, not long standing.

    480, 580, 680, 780, press skip, 980, 1080, press skip 9 times, 2080..

    The 1180 would have been “long standing” for the numbering scheme. I just think it is pretty pathetic of AMD to attempt to name their product strictly to disrupt naming since they can not compete head to head. X399 and 3080 would be the prime examples of the 3080 crap is true. But...

    atfrico
    If Nvidia sue AMD for the name scheme, i have my false advertisement lawsuit ready and waiting to be filed to Nvidia


    https://amp.tomshardware....-trademarks,39435.html





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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/26 07:40:34 (permalink)
    like amd using ryzen 3,5,7 to mimic i3,i5,i7
     
     
     
    as for Nvidia super--- think what you are gonna call a supersuperoverclock GPU -...super supersuperoverclock
    it starting to get ridonkulous

     
       


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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/26 07:51:23 (permalink)
    atfrico
    If Nvidia sue AMD for the name scheme, i have my false advertisement lawsuit ready and waiting to be filed to Nvidia


     
    Nvidia has filed trademarks for 3080, 4080, and 5080
    https://www.techspot.com/news/80234-nvidia-has-filed-trademarks-3080-4080-5080.html
     
     
    seems AMD might have a bit of dancing to do

     
       


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    Re: AMD Navi RX 3080 Specs Leaked 2019/05/26 08:44:52 (permalink)
    Xavier Zepherious
    Nvidia has filed trademarks for 3080, 4080, and 5080
    https://www.techspot.com/news/80234-nvidia-has-filed-trademarks-3080-4080-5080.html
    seems AMD might have a bit of dancing to do

    lehpron
      Let's go into therapist mode, does having higher expectations of Navi to influence nVidia let anyone down?  So you go after the naming scheme because you have nothing else to complain about.  Here's an idea, don't worry about it.  This isn't about nVidia, this is about you.


    It seems NVidia thinks differently, Lehpron.   Granted, NVidia may not win the trademark case (not sure you can trademark numbers, plus there's the history of Intel losing a similar case), but still, denying that AMD are attempting to piggyback off NVidia's branding scheme is a little imperceptive.
     
    Thanks Xavier for posting the link.
     
     

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