When you have to keep lowering your price to sell your product against the competitor that everyone says is over priced, you're doing something wrong.

They are taking back market share and making money for the first time in a decade, I don't think they're doing it wrong...
 
Could they be adjusting for Zen2 7nm for Q1 2019?

kram36
There is no reason for AMD to drop their prices any lower, AMD needs the money, it's a stupid move.

Some companies are willing to buy market share & hope to move customer $$$ away from their competator's coffers
 
Though its clear Intel has much deeper pockets

seth89
They are taking back market share and making money for the first time in a decade, I don't think they're doing it wrong...
 
Could they be adjusting for Zen2 7nm for Q1 2019?

AMD has always been seen as the budget brand being far cheaper then Intel doesn't really help since people expect to get what they pay for. In a way being close to Intel in means they feel confident that they are worth that price. Cutting costs also lowers the profits made by AMD so they don't catch up with Intel.

atfrico

kram36
When you have to keep lowering your price to sell your product against the competitor that everyone says is over priced, you're doing something wrong.

really?.
It is tempting for those who still running i7 X58 chips and can easily upgrade to the 1 year old Ryzen. I, on the other hand, find this a very attractive/tempting offer to simply buy now and be done with my upgrade to DDR4 chip and memory till another year or so for me to upgrade.  Next year i am going to go crazy on the DDR4 memory size, i might jump to 32GB or 48GB from the start and buy 2 ssd. 
It is also a tactic of common sense, much to many of the majority of human beings in this earth do not possess, about seeing an advantage/opportunity in their face and not taking advantage.
Lower price to attract the consumer to you and not to the competition or just trying to get rid of the over stock of the Ryzen chip AMD has produced.

Yes, really.
 
If a $25 drop in price is what makes someone froggy and jump on the 2700X, they were never in the market for the 8700K anyways as I stated above.
 

Hoggle

seth89
They are taking back market share and making money for the first time in a decade, I don't think they're doing it wrong...
 
Could they be adjusting for Zen2 7nm for Q1 2019?

AMD has always been seen as the budget brand being far cheaper then Intel doesn't really help since people expect to get what they pay for. In a way being close to Intel in means they feel confident that they are worth that price. Cutting costs also lowers the profits made by AMD so they don't catch up with Intel.

Agreed. At some point AMD needs to stand on the merits of their product, not lower prices. AMD needs the money as they keep bouncing back and forth between making their graphics cards better or processors better. AMD took R&D money away from their graphics cards to get their processors at a competing level with Intel and AMD needs to cash in on their actions or they are going to be bouncing back and forth all the time and could get them in trouble. Right now AMD can't touch Nvidia and if Intel were to get their act together with their deep pockets they could bury AMD on the processor front.

knightsilver
Old AMD made better profits by under cutting Intel. Hopefully AMD can make some better numbers because of Intel's over priced low yields... 

Oh no no no. Old AMD about went bankrupt for falling so far behind the competition no matter how low the price was, people were not buying their products. Right now AMD is in the perfect spot to bank serious cash, there is zero need to lower their prices on their processors right now. Unless they know something more about Intel's incoming 9000 series processors that it has them worried, there is just no reason to lower their prices. I mean come on, Intel's 8 core/16 thread 9900k is $600 and AMD doesn't feel their 8 core/16 thread 2700X is worth half the price of the 9900k?

HaywireHaywood
I think it's nuts for Intel to think that theirs is worth double the price.

Perfect illustration of my first post.
 

kram36
When you have to keep lowering your price to sell your product against the competitor that everyone says is over priced, you're doing something wrong.

I'm an intel person, so the price drop doesn't mean anything to me...but for a few of my friends who don't have a lot of money, that 25 bucks is looking tasty to them..
 
it depends on who you are, I think
 

AMD dropping their prices is a great thing.  AMD already makes more profit per processor by a much larger margin than Intel does.  Their wafer yeild rates are over 80%, where as Intel is no where near that, and I can't find official numbers.  Here's the other thing the fanbois are forgetting.  AM4 is a platform that will be supported till 2020, MINIMUM.  That means that all these people who are buying this cheap Ryzen systems and are updating their Sandybridge i5 and i7's will be able to install a Zen2, then Zen2+ and a Zen3, if they so wish.  That is quite an upgrade path.  These people are not being locked into another failed Intel platform, and they are getting 95% of the performance for 60% of the price.
 
So I ask you, if you were going to build something and you saw what Intel did, would you get locked into another Intel platform that you know will not be supported next year?  Or would you buy a platform that has been guaranteed to be supported for at least 3 more generations of CPU's?  Each of which will probably have 10-15% of IPC improvement.
 
What AMD is doing is gaining market share, with their extremely profitable chips.  A 1920x is still profitable at $250.  It's insane how inexpensive Zen is to make with their super high yields and the fact that every single processor is made with the same CCX, something Intel can not do.  No one complained when the 1800x debuted at $499 that it was too expensive (and people bought them like pancakes), and now you're complaining that the 2700x that is even more powerful and comes with a fantastic cooler, is too cheap at $295.  Zen2 is right around the corner.  Rumours are it might have 12-16 cores, so need to get that install base ready to destroy Intel's fake HEDT platform :)

Lol, oh lord.