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There are already tens of reviews online (google 4080 reviews).
It is confirmed that 4080 is 20% faster than 3090Ti while reducing power usage to 320W from 450W (stock BIOS).
Will buy this card (FE if possible)
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 07:43:56
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There are already tens of reviews online (google 4080 reviews).
It is confirmed that 4080 is 20% faster than 3090Ti while reducing power usage to 320W from 450W (stock BIOS).
Will buy this card (FE if possible)
I'm curious how the new top end AMD GPU will fare against the RTX 4080.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 08:24:21
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Looks like a nice card, but the TDP is still to high.
Performance per wat looks fair to me. rjohnson11
I'm curious how the new top end AMD GPU will fare against the RTX 4080.
For a start AMD GPU will be priced more friendly, and have higher performance (per AMD, yet to be tested by reviewers) but I am Nvidia/Intel orientated user.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 09:28:40
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Gamer's Nexus wasn't too impressed with the RTX 4080.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 10:04:58
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Gamer's Nexus wasn't too impressed with the RTX 4080.
Steve becoming less professional and objective, but more personal. BTW just blocked 4 Youtubers (misleading info, biased approach) Fortunately, I do not need someone's personal opinion, just looking for the benchmark charts. Following numbers never lies: - price
- performance fps
- power usage
- idle/load temps
- noise
So, when any new card (4080 priced $1,2K) beat previous flagship (3090Ti priced around $2K) I am impressed regardless anyone's opinion. - performance gain 20 - 30%
- TDP lower 40%
- price lower 40%
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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No more $699 x80 cards but atleast you don't need sli anymore :)
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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So, when any new card (4080 priced $1,2K) beat previous flagship (3090Ti priced around $2K) I am impressed regardless anyone's opinion.
It is 70% price increase from 3080 to 4080, whereas inflation has been 15%, this is message GN tried to convey. So you are ok with 70% price increase each generation? So 6080 for 3500 usd?
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 13:40:26
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In today's day and age yes, maybe I'm just stuck in the past where a 300w GPU was a top end dual GPU card.
However I would like to see what the mid range has to offer, if the trend the 4080 is setting sticks the lower end cards should be rather nice.
Well, in the past what was the transistor count? 10, 15 billion? 4080 have 46 billion and thankfully 4 nano wafers, 320W can still power that insane transistor count. Also keep in mind how CPU was low transistor count and power usage. I am nostalgic too for the old good times when PSU 450W was more than enough for high end rigs. TrekCZ
It is 70% price increase from 3080 to 4080, whereas inflation has been 15%, this is message GN tried to convey.
So you are ok with 70% price increase each generation? So 6080 for 3500 usd?
Since 4080 performance is 50% over 3080 + 15% inflation = 65%. And no, it is not OK to pump the prices that much for each generation. Have feeling that manufacturers seeing how much scalpers earning and people paying, just taking a bigger piece of cake. Remember this is a capitalism, demand and supply ratio dictate prices. Simply no place for emotions, logic or fairness. Thats my 2 cents.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 13:59:49
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Too early for NVIDIA to release the "next generation" video card IMHO. At least get tons of sales around the world with 3000 series. 
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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dragomirc]
So, when any new card (4080 priced $1,2K) beat previous flagship (3090Ti priced around $2K) I am impressed regardless anyone's opinion.
It is 70% price increase from 3080 to 4080, whereas inflation has been 15%, this is message GN tried to convey.
So you are ok with 70% price increase each generation? So 6080 for 3500 usd?
YA it was cleverly crafted to be price positioned , It's like the cost to produce a card like this isn't even a factor anymore, It's just what they think they can get for it and make it only as good as it has to be to sit at the perceived performance point, I really hope the 7900xtx can get a clear advantage, Its the only thing that can stop the insanity. If they were not sitting on a pile of 30 series silicone, I bet this would not have Launched over 900 $ but it needs to coexist so Stagnation is the rule for now.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 14:33:25
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I am impressed by the performance and when it comes to price, I simply do not care one way or the other because I don't plan on buying one myself. If people are not happy with price to performance, they need to vote with their wallets. If they want to pay the price, then so be it, their money has absolutely nothing to do with me, and I won't be upset with them for getting what they want. If I were going to grab anything, I would like to have a 4090, but my 3090's and my 3080ti perfectly drive my setup, so I am perfectly content waiting for the 5000's top tier card, and then I will upgrade my monitor at the same exact time. Hopefully the next series of HEDT will be out around the same time with at least two sets of x16 lane PCIe 5.0 so that I can put a 4xM.2 card in with direct CPU lanes. I like the on board M.2, but they can be VERY difficult to access with watercooling, and I would like to have them accessible without fully disassembling the loop.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 15:21:24
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dragomirc
rjohnson11
Gamer's Nexus wasn't too impressed with the RTX 4080.
Steve becoming less professional and objective, but more personal.
BTW just blocked 4 Youtubers (misleading info, biased approach)
Fortunately, I do not need someone's personal opinion, just looking for the benchmark charts.
Following numbers never lies:
- price
- performance fps
- power usage
- idle/load temps
- noise
So, when any new card (4080 priced $1,2K) beat previous flagship (3090Ti priced around $2K) I am impressed regardless anyone's opinion.
- performance gain 20 - 30%
- TDP lower 40%
- price lower 40%
Amusing. Steve said it upfront, 70-75% of the performance of a 4090, at 75% the cost of a 4090. You're right, those numbers don't lie. Neither does HUB or Level1Techs which concurred. But sure, you have to pretend there's value there by using a $2k price when those same cards were selling new for $1,000 three months ago. 
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 16:54:08
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Amusing. Steve said it upfront, 70-75% of the performance of a 4090, at 75% the cost of a 4090. You're right, those numbers don't lie. Neither does HUB or Level1Techs which concurred.
But sure, you have to pretend there's value there by using a $2k price when those same cards were selling new for $1,000 three months ago.
At least Level1Techs understand something. Some ones understand nothing. - 4090 launch, performance/price, have been already reviewed benchmarked, compared, and heavily discussed.
- 4080 launch day is tomorrow, so reviews are still fresh and first time available today, as you can notice from the title of this tread, can you?
- If you try hard, you can conclude that 4080 $1.2k price is launch price and accordingly I used 3090Ti $2K launch price.
- So, people paid $2K card with performance index 75-80 and comes a new $1.2K card with performance index 100.
- Those brief price discount didn't last long so you better check 3080 or 3090 card now if you can find one. (Let me know where you can find a new 3090Ti for 1k).
- Average Joe should be able to understand that 3K series were way overpriced, and still scalpels ruled the market.
In what bulb you live when you expect that performance gain comes for free. Anyway, when 3090Ti costed $2K+, 4080 is dirty cheap performance wise.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 17:56:59
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That's a pretty ridiculous price, but isn't that the norm? They will wring out every penny they can get.
Let's hope AMD competes with decent levels of inventory.
Then, in a few years, we will hope for stronger Intel competition.
Very few "need" these video cards, so NVIDIA knows that they are selling to people who have already made up their mind.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 23:34:58
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The real crime no one talks about is the fact the 3090 was supposed to be the Titan and the top tier card... But because of Nvidia's crap job of letting AIB's know what's up they had to scramble and all the AIB 3090's design was crap... I bought 5 of them for myself and clients after having been told by Jensen in the press release "this is our flagship top tier card for the 30 series" If you want the best .. this is it.. Then the 3090Ti came out... It killed the value of the 3090 and I looked bad to my clients. They wanted "the best" and the resale value went to crap so quick. Some don't get it but many corporations who some what justify buying these top tier "titan cards" want more than a year out of them being the top dog as the trend was always 2 years. Not going to lie.. I took that personal and why I won't buy any 4090 and will advise my clients not to buy one until we see if they pull the same stunt again.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 23:36:30
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Since 4080 performance is 50% over 3080 + 15% inflation = 65%.
This is not how things work, it is technological advancement where you have new things much more performant for the same price as previous generation was. Even cheaper because new processes are more efficient. This is proven by Ryzen example, 7950x msrp is 699 usd where previous generation was 799 usd so that means that manufacturing is not much more expensive despite inflation (it is probably cheaper or previous gen was overpriced). And old stuff (5950x) prices are now very cheap. When looking at eshops - 7950x cpu is much more cheaper than 5950x was. In Nvidia example, 3000 series are still selling for higher prices here than MSRP and 4000 series are insanely expensive. But this is only price gauging because of demand so Nvidia is leveraging market to the max (which they must do because of shareholders). Only question is if market manipulation done by Nvidia is legal, maybe regulator should take a look at least in EU, because Nvidia is clearly abusing the market now which is not ok.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/15 23:47:40
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dragomirc
rjohnson11
Gamer's Nexus wasn't too impressed with the RTX 4080.
Steve becoming less professional and objective, but more personal.
BTW just blocked 4 Youtubers (misleading info, biased approach)
Fortunately, I do not need someone's personal opinion, just looking for the benchmark charts.
Following numbers never lies:
- price
- performance fps
- power usage
- idle/load temps
- noise
So, when any new card (4080 priced $1,2K) beat previous flagship (3090Ti priced around $2K) I am impressed regardless anyone's opinion.
- performance gain 20 - 30%
- TDP lower 40%
- price lower 40%
I kind of have to agree with Gamers Nexus on not being that impressed. Not to say it's not a great card but instead who is the market for a card that performs like that? The system it would take to make use of the cards ability really isn't going to be owned by someone who really wants the second best card NVIDIA puts out.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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Well, it is launch day and NewEgg, Best Buy and Amazon have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA quantity so far. Micro Center reports limited availability at St. Louis Park Store - but only Buy In Store Ebay and scalpers working like charm 4080 available for the 4090 prices.  Meanwhile listening news how airfare for holidays goes 40$% up???
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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Typical stock lasted <1min. Snagged the 4080 Gaming OC from BB 5 seconds after it went live. This will hold me over until 4090 availablity improves. I have added items at Newegg a couple times, but can't complete the cart transaction quick enough for the 4090 before it's gone. There's a guy on Amazon that had like 6 4090 Gaming OCs for sale.  Need to get rid of my 3080ti and 3090 FTW3 soon. I had a Gigabyte 4090 in my BB cart on launch day, but got greedy and wanted the Supreme X so let it pass. I know better now.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 06:54:40
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Already hitting $2,100 on Ebay. Darn scalpers and stupid people who buying that priced cards.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 08:23:32
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So Evga has a model 4080? = Not True correct?
I have a 3090ti it is pretty good. I got it for around 1000 evga had a brief sale on them around Sept.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 08:49:02
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There's a sucker born every minute.
I'd say every 10 seconds. Fools' tsunami is getting too high to swim in it. Sigh... So much for a launch day. Boots cleaned up online supply and now offering bidding or insanely high pricing. If this is a future of PC enthusiast's shopping, I don't want to be part of it. Simply will stop to follow news and stop wasting my time and turn again on my ships modeling hobby.  Planes too 
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 09:26:33
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do you like the speakers and onkyo. I have focal and denon.
The ship looks nice. Oh BTW now that no one mines who do we blame for the lack of cards?
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 09:27:43
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do you like the speakers and onkyo. I have focal and denon.
The ship looks nice. Oh BTW now that no one mines who do we blame for the lack of cards?
NVidia, because Jensen Huang directly said they would limit the quantity of cards as part of “a market adjustment”
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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do you like the speakers and onkyo. I have focal and denon.
The ship looks nice. Oh BTW now that no one mines who do we blame for the lack of cards?
I had Denon amp and Polk speakers for a long time. Switch to Onkyo as on of the first Atmos amps and paired with Klipsch Atmos speaker's setup. TBH Denon & Polk had softer and deeper sound (had to unplug the sub as my neighbor didn't like it). the_Scarlet_one
NVidia, because Jensen Huang directly said they would limit the quantity of cards as part of “a market adjustment”
Correct, as Nvidia found data center users more profitable than gamer/miners. Also, scalpels greed feed by buyers' stupidity (readiness to pay fortune) cleans up shelves fast.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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NVidia, because Jensen Huang directly said they would limit the quantity of cards as part of “a market adjustment”
Correct, as Nvidia found data center users more profitable than gamer/miners.
Also, scalpels greed feed by buyers' stupidity (readiness to pay fortune) cleans up shelves fast.
Plus Nvidia is devoting all its resources to producing the AI chips to beat the ban on shipments to China. GPUs are taking a back seat until that date. They really don't care to sell GPUs right now.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 10:22:38
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This card exists with the sole purpose of selling 4090s. The price is ridiculously way too high for where it would be if they really wanted it to sell well. They don't care. Every one they sell will be huge profits for them, but they priced it so high because they knew every 30-series card they sold at any price sold at launch. So they're banking on selling them anyway while long-term it'll boost sales of 4090 because if you're already spending $1250-1600 on a GPU, you may as well get a 4090.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
2022/11/16 10:58:29
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Most bids on Ebay are at or under the break even point, there's still a few stupid people out there but it's not like before. If you bought it to Scalp it, might be in for a bit of a surprise.
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Re: 4080 Reviews Posted
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Price too high IMO. Nvidia knows AMD is launching a competitive product hence you see the price gauging.
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