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2020/12/09 16:01:30 (permalink)
So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/09 16:16:52 (permalink)
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    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 00:34:08 (permalink)
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    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    On the side of the card there is a 4 pin PWM fan header (for any case fans that you might want to be based on GPU rather than CPU temperature) and a 3 pin ARGB header.  Do NOT attempt to connect from the 4 pin fan header to 3 pin ARGB to the 4 pin plug for the fans.
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 02:42:49 (permalink)
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    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    On the side of the card there is a 4 pin PWM fan header (for any case fans that you might want to be based on GPU rather than CPU temperature) and a 3 pin ARGB header.  Do NOT attempt to connect from the 4 pin fan header to 3 pin ARGB to the 4 pin plug for the fans.

    so basically the only cable we have to connect to gpu (except power cables of course lol) is the argb one to the argb header right?
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 05:51:17 (permalink)
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    RiffyDivine
    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    Cool so it is safe to just leave it unplugged then? The card is already flashy enough as it is. 
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    Mathieas
    RiffyDivine
    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    On the side of the card there is a 4 pin PWM fan header (for any case fans that you might want to be based on GPU rather than CPU temperature) and a 3 pin ARGB header.  Do NOT attempt to connect from the 4 pin fan header to 3 pin ARGB to the 4 pin plug for the fans.




    Wouldn't you need another splitter then to get them both to turn on since you can only plug one in or did I miss it and they are already paired up?
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 06:17:14 (permalink)
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    RiffyDivine
    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    Cool so it is safe to just leave it unplugged then? The card is already flashy enough as it is. 
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    Mathieas
    RiffyDivine
    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 


    I did not use them, but I believe you use them as a pass through to the header. Header on one end, fans power the other, led plug in the middle. But I'd call evga support to make sure.



    On the side of the card there is a 4 pin PWM fan header (for any case fans that you might want to be based on GPU rather than CPU temperature) and a 3 pin ARGB header.  Do NOT attempt to connect from the 4 pin fan header to 3 pin ARGB to the 4 pin plug for the fans.




    Wouldn't you need another splitter then to get them both to turn on since you can only plug one in or did I miss it and they are already paired up?


    I felt the same way about the RGB, I left mine unplugged. Make sure to plug in the fans though, I used the fan cable coming from the card found in-between the liquid lines(Has Y at end of it).
    post edited by Mathieas - 2020/12/10 06:32:05

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 06:29:07 (permalink)
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3988-KR#images-9
     
    Check that pic on the right
    5V, D, G is the digital rgb header
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 06:48:58 (permalink)
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    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 




    Step #2 ... same as the original LED connection ?

     

     
     
     

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 07:09:03 (permalink)
    but so guys i still don't understand... i am waiting my ftw3 hybrid to be delivered and i want to use argb too... what are the step for set up everything?
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 08:18:13 (permalink)
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    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 




    Step #2 ... same as the original LED connection ?

     

     
     
     




    Thanks a lot for posting links to the hybrid kit installation instructions!  I'm in the notify queue and am glancing these over.
     
    I do have a question for you (or anyone else) regarding step 1 for 3090 FTW owners.  This step states "Make sure to place the thermal pads on the backplate as shown in the image below, as you will reuse the backplate and thermal pads."  However, the corresponding image appears to have the thermal pads on the PCB/VRMs instead of the backplate, unless I'm mistaken.
     
    Which piece is incorrect, the pic or the verbiage?  As I understand things, cooling the VRMs on the back of the card is critical, so I'm wanting to ensure I follow the best practice for installation.  I'm leaning towards having the thermal pads on the PCB VRMs themselves as opposed to the backplate, but I don't claim to be an expert.
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/10 19:41:03 (permalink)
    the  thermal pads are on the backside pcb

     
    but i want to replace them to other pads, which thickness should i use?
     

     
    and the Thermal Grease is pre-coating on the water block?
     

     
     
     
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    RiffyDivine
    So I just got my 3090 hybrid today and installed it but wasn't sure where to plug in the two leads for the LED controllers for the fans. Anyone here mind telling me where to plug them into? 




    Step #2 ... same as the original LED connection ?

     

     
     
     




    Thanks a lot for posting links to the hybrid kit installation instructions!  I'm in the notify queue and am glancing these over.
     
    I do have a question for you (or anyone else) regarding step 1 for 3090 FTW owners.  This step states "Make sure to place the thermal pads on the backplate as shown in the image below, as you will reuse the backplate and thermal pads."  However, the corresponding image appears to have the thermal pads on the PCB/VRMs instead of the backplate, unless I'm mistaken.
     
    Which piece is incorrect, the pic or the verbiage?  As I understand things, cooling the VRMs on the back of the card is critical, so I'm wanting to ensure I follow the best practice for installation.  I'm leaning towards having the thermal pads on the PCB VRMs themselves as opposed to the backplate, but I don't claim to be an expert.




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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:08:26 (permalink)
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    Thanks a lot for posting links to the hybrid kit installation instructions!  I'm in the notify queue and am glancing these over.
     
    I do have a question for you (or anyone else) regarding step 1 for 3090 FTW owners.  This step states "Make sure to place the thermal pads on the backplate as shown in the image below, as you will reuse the backplate and thermal pads."  However, the corresponding image appears to have the thermal pads on the PCB/VRMs instead of the backplate, unless I'm mistaken.
     
    Which piece is incorrect, the pic or the verbiage?  As I understand things, cooling the VRMs on the back of the card is critical, so I'm wanting to ensure I follow the best practice for installation.  I'm leaning towards having the thermal pads on the PCB VRMs themselves as opposed to the backplate, but I don't claim to be an expert.




     
    I'd leave the pads on the back of the PCB --> As Pictured
     
    protect them with aluminum foil to keep them clean while the card is open ... if you need to turn the card over while pads are exposed

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:10:24 (permalink)
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    the  thermal pads are on the backside pcb

     
    but i want to replace them to other pads, which thickness should i use?
     

     
    and the Thermal Grease is pre-coating on the water block?
     

     

     
    EVGA_JacobF said 2.0 mm (on back) He should know - EVGA Product Manager 
     
    https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3123309
    EVGA_JacobF
    Memory is 2.25mm, VRM 2.85mm, back VRAM is 2mm


     
      if a fractional sized Thermal Pad is not available .... go up in size
     
      No 2.25 mm is available --> then buy 2.5 mm
     
      No 2.85 mm to be found ... buy 3 mm
     
    Don't forget to remove the protective film from the stock thermal pads .... it has happened
     
     
      check the contact of your pads
     
    Measure the old pads - where they were not compressed .. metric dial caliper
     
     
    How to correctly apply the thermal interface material (TIM)?
     
    (excerpt) - see link for picture
     
    "When you remove the cooler you should clearly see the imprint of the edges of the elements on the PCB. When the edges aren’t visible you have no or bad contact. The contact can also be too good. You can observe that when you check if the motherboard/graphics card is severely bent in the area of the thermal pad."
     
     
    Yes - the CPU cooler is factory coated with TIM
     
     
    edit made Correction & Quote of EVGA_Jacob added
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:26:13 (permalink)
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    komicaaa
    the  thermal pads are on the backside pcb

     
    but i want to replace them to other pads, which thickness should i use?
     

     
    and the Thermal Grease is pre-coating on the water block?
     

     

     
    EVGA_JacobF said 2.0 mm (on back)  He should know - EVGA Product Manager
     
     
      check the contact of your pads

    Measure the old pads - where they were not compressed .. metric dial caliper



    How to correctly apply the thermal interface material (TIM)?

    (excerpt) - see link for picture

    "When you remove the cooler you should clearly see the imprint of the edges of the elements on the PCB. When the edges aren’t visible you have no or bad contact. The contact can also be too good. You can observe that when you check if the motherboard/graphics card is severely bent in the area of the thermal pad."
     
     
    Yes - the CPU cooler is factory coated with TIM
     
    edit made




    Retail 2.5mm thermal pad?  A quick 30sec search at Mouser.com netted 6 different models from Panisonic, 3m, and Lantronix of which all are in stock.  Seems readily available, even for overnight shipping.  The only delay would be shipping delays due to holiday.
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:26:59 (permalink)
    thanks
    i think i should go with 3mm pads@12.8 W/mk ,that is easy to get it than 2.5mm @ low W/mk
    in my city 
    and i can save the TIM money
     
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    Cool GTX
     
    EVGA_JacobF said 2.0 mm  He should know - EVGA Product Manager
     
     
      check the contact of your pads
    Measure the old pads - where they were not compressed .. metric dial caliper


    How to correctly apply the thermal interface material (TIM)?

    (excerpt) - see link for picture

    "When you remove the cooler you should clearly see the imprint of the edges of the elements on the PCB. When the edges aren’t visible you have no or bad contact. The contact can also be too good. You can observe that when you check if the motherboard/graphics card is severely bent in the area of the thermal pad."
     
     
    Yes - the CPU cooler is factory coated with TIM
     
    edited made




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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:39:52 (permalink)
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    Thanks a lot for posting links to the hybrid kit installation instructions!  I'm in the notify queue and am glancing these over.
     
    I do have a question for you (or anyone else) regarding step 1 for 3090 FTW owners.  This step states "Make sure to place the thermal pads on the backplate as shown in the image below, as you will reuse the backplate and thermal pads."  However, the corresponding image appears to have the thermal pads on the PCB/VRMs instead of the backplate, unless I'm mistaken.
     
    Which piece is incorrect, the pic or the verbiage?  As I understand things, cooling the VRMs on the back of the card is critical, so I'm wanting to ensure I follow the best practice for installation.  I'm leaning towards having the thermal pads on the PCB VRMs themselves as opposed to the backplate, but I don't claim to be an expert.




     
    I'd leave the pads on the back of the PCB --> As Pictured




    Makes sense to me.  Thanks for the input.
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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 08:53:51 (permalink)
    komicaaa
    thanks
    i think i should go with 3mm pads@12.8 W/mk ,that is easy to get it than 2.5mm @ low W/mk
    in my city 
    and i can save the TIM money
     
    ps:




     

    Correction - I edited my Post - my mistake

     
      What I should have Posted ... if a fractional sized Thermal Pad is not available .... go up in size
     
    No 2.25 mm is available --> then buy 2.5 mm
     
    No 2.85 mm to be found ... buy 3 mm
     
    Don't forget to remove the protective film from the stock thermal pads .... it has happened

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/11 09:10:36 (permalink)
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    Retail 2.5mm thermal pad?  A quick 30sec search at Mouser.com netted 6 different models from Panisonic, 3m, and Lantronix of which all are in stock.  Seems readily available, even for overnight shipping.  The only delay would be shipping delays due to holiday.




     
    I made a mistake & have edited my post
     
    Should have Posted -->  if a fractional sized Thermal Pad is not available .... go up in size
     
    No 2.25 mm is available --> then buy 2.5 mm
     
    No 2.85 mm to be found ... buy 3 mm
     


    --> Most PC enthusiasts do not buy commercial thermal pads - they will buy known brands from PC outlets
     

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2020/12/12 06:01:46 (permalink)
    Hello,
    I just ordered the hybrid cooling kit yesterday. I'm wondering what the card will look like after installation is finished.
    Do you still have the RGB on the side? The part that lights with EVGA RTX 3090.
    Could someone please upload some pics of the 3090 Ultra after hybrid kit installation and with that card installed inside your case please?

    Also has anyone done any comparisons of before and after temps? I've never used water cooling on anything before. I have a large full tower with lots of fans which has excellent coming performance. The original heatsink on the 3090 FTW3 ULTRA seems like very good quality to begin with. Has anyone noticed better boost clock frequency with the hybrid kit?

    Thank you

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    Re: 3090 hybrid fan install 2021/03/20 09:53:42 (permalink)
    Hi, I am having a similar issue with my RTX 3090 hybrid, the model XC3. I removed the pads before measuring them, and now I cannot figure out for the life of me the thickness needed. I saw that you know the dimensions for the FTW version, maybe some of you know it for the XC3 as well? 
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