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I have a 3090 in my computer with a 9900K @4K resolution. No problems at all with bottlenecking because of the 4K resolution. I have the notification from EVGA to buy a 3090 Ti and I am seriously considering this for this computer. I do believe that the 3090 Ti would help push higher frame rates at 4K. The cost is not a factor. However, my old 3090 would be going into my second computer that has an 8086K CPU in it at 2560x1440. Do you think this will bottleneck at 2560x1440?
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 18:43:43
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Most likely. That's a pretty old CPU. Time to buy a 12900k setup and put the 3090ti in that. Money's not an object, right? Donate the 8086k.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 19:39:50
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Donradeon Most likely. That's a pretty old CPU. Time to buy a 12900k setup and put the 3090ti in that. Money's not an object, right? Donate the 8086k.
The 3090 Ti won't be going in the PC with the 8086k. The money used to upgrade the CPU is not the problem, the time and pain in the a** is for that upgrade. Eventually, both of my CPUs will be getting upgraded, just maybe not yet.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 19:56:44
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It won't be that big of a deal in most titles. A 5+ GHz 14nm is still very capable. There will be some titles that will be limited by 6 cores, but most won't. My brother recently upgraded from the 8086k to a 9900k and I think the latest need for speed game was a pretty drastic difference but for the most part it was pretty similar with his 3080 Ti.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 19:57:57
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Your 8086 will be absolutely fine with the 3090..OC the 8086 (5 Ghz)...those chips OC well....
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 19:59:59
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rjbarker Your 8086 will be absolutely fine with the 3090..OC the 8086 (5 Ghz)...those chips OC well....
If nothing else, it should be better than the 2080 Ti that's currently in that system.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 20:03:17
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rjbarker Your 8086 will be absolutely fine with the 3090..OC the 8086 (5 Ghz)...those chips OC well....
If nothing else, it should be better than the 2080 Ti that's currently in that system.
Absolutely.....hell I have my Maximus XI Extreme w 9900K set up on my work bench with an Evga 1080Ti SC Black and that GPU still doing very well!
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 20:53:24
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The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 20:57:46
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:10:21
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
I have to admit I thought about that for sure..Memory on one side, as well it looks like some pretty high performance components used on the pcb, but....don't see the point in moving up to this Card if you already hold a 3080Ti / 3090.I can find something else to drop $3K CDN on ;) . ...my 3080Ti w EK Block and OC 120 / 750 sits pretty much right on 2100 Mhz with no dips throughout a 3 hour session of CP77......looking forward to seeing more info with Lovelace as it becomes available.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:26:16
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
The "8% to 15% bump in performance" takes into account those factors, right? If they didn't, you would say '10% to 19% bump in performance' rather than "8% to 15%". The difference is the reason for the performance bump. You can't just double-dip on the same thing and call it two different attributes; one a measurable number and one a psychological feeling that somehow doesn't show up in the number you quoted. It's not a 8% to 15% bump in performance, is it? More like 5% to 10% apples to apples. It's only vastly different tier cards and stock vs overclock that have those big of margins, no? However big a performance difference you believe to exist, with a new generation right around the corner, I think it is a bad time to buy. Either there will be options with better performance soon, or better prices soon. This card isn't going away. Impatience and boredom can be solved in other ways. It's a bad time to buy; especially for such a small performance gain.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:27:37
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
That statement hurts bad for me with my 3 week old 3090 haha. Be anorhrr week before I see it on water at my pace. Man I hate the yoyo clocks.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:32:22
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
The "8% to 15% bump in performance" takes into account those factors, right? If they didn't, you would say '10% to 19% bump in performance' rather than "8% to 15%". The difference is the reason for the performance bump. You can't just double-dip on the same thing and call it two different attributes; one a measurable number and one a psychological feeling that somehow doesn't show up in the number you quoted.
It's not a 8% to 15% bump in performance, is it? More like 5% to 10% apples to apples. It's only vastly different tier cards and stock vs overclock that have those big of margins, no?
Either way, with a new generation around the corner, I think it is a bad time to buy. Either there will be options with better performance soon, or better prices soon. Impatience and boredom can be solved in other ways.
Yep!! Here you go...at my Rez 3440*1440p (between 2560 and 4K) looks like a 10-12 FPS improvement with most AAA titles over either a 3080Ti or 3090..... https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-ftw3-ultra/4.html
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:36:23
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
The "8% to 15% bump in performance" takes into account those factors, right? If they didn't, you would say '10% to 19% bump in performance' rather than "8% to 15%". The difference is the reason for the performance bump. You can't just double-dip on the same thing and call it two different attributes; one a measurable number and one a psychological feeling that somehow doesn't show up in the number you quoted.
It's not a 8% to 15% bump in performance, is it? More like 5% to 10% apples to apples. It's only vastly different tier cards and stock vs overclock that have those big of margins, no?
Either way, with a new generation around the corner, I think it is a bad time to buy. Either there will be options with better performance soon, or better prices soon. Impatience and boredom can be solved in other ways.
Here you go...at my Rez 3440*1440p (between 2560 and 4K) looks like a 10-12 FPS improvement with most AAA titles over either a 3080Ti or 3090..... https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-ftw3-ultra/4.html
Thanks! 11% is pretty close to 10%. Performance expectations aside, it's a bad time to buy.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/30 21:59:09
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ty_ger07 The performance jump from 3090 to 3090 Ti is small. I don't think you will notice a difference. I would wait for the next generation which is right around the corner.
There is more to the 3090 Ti than just the 8% to 15% bump in performance. The memory chips are all on the same side as the GPU and stay cooled much better this way, plus look at the coolers on these bad boy, keeps the card even cooler than the 3090. On the 3090 Ti, the cards hits it's boost clock and holds it, unlike the 3090 that bounces up and down. You will get higher performance that's smoother with the 3090 ti.
The "8% to 15% bump in performance" takes into account those factors, right? If they didn't, you would say '10% to 19% bump in performance' rather than "8% to 15%". The difference is the reason for the performance bump. You can't just double-dip on the same thing and call it two different attributes; one a measurable number and one a psychological feeling that somehow doesn't show up in the number you quoted.
It's not a 8% to 15% bump in performance, is it? More like 5% to 10% apples to apples. It's only vastly different tier cards and stock vs overclock that have those big of margins, no?
However big a performance difference you believe to exist, with a new generation right around the corner, I think it is a bad time to buy. Either there will be options with better performance soon, or better prices soon. This card isn't going away. Impatience and boredom can be solved in other ways. It's a bad time to buy; especially for such a small performance gain.
To be more accurate, the 8% to 15% performance increase I referenced is for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming without overclocking. See how nice the card holds it's clock speeds and stays much cooler. https://youtu.be/HWS9G2WT42Q?t=545
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/31 10:28:00
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The big upgrade here is actually to the system with the 2080 ti in it. That system will be getting a 3090 upgrade. The point of this thread is really to determine if I need to pull the 9900K from my other system as well. If I do that, then I’ll upgrade the system that’ll be getting the 3090 ti with a new processor, probably the 12900K. Of course, if the processor upgrade won’t make much of a difference, then I’ll leave the 8086K where it is.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/03/31 15:15:11
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If you're hitting 5Ghz on the CPU and gaming at 4K, no need to worry about upgrading to the 12900K.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/04/01 16:34:02
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I bought the 3090 ti. I ran the 3090 ti and it’s a really nice card. Running Timespy and the temps were in the upper 50’s running at close to 100% GPU. No coil whine so far. It’s a very nice looking card. Good job to EVGA for putting together a solid card. I guess at over $2K it should be though.
I installed the 3090 in the other computer, but have yet to run it. When I do, I’ll post back and let everyone know the results.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/04/01 17:04:34
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chrisdglong I bought the 3090 ti. I ran the 3090 ti and it’s a really nice card. Running Timespy and the temps were in the upper 50’s running at close to 100% GPU. No coil whine so far. It’s a very nice looking card. Good job to EVGA for putting together a solid card. I guess at over $2K it should be though.
I installed the 3090 in the other computer, but have yet to run it. When I do, I’ll post back and let everyone know the results.
Sweet, love hearing about the temp. My 3090 Ti just got delivered, so I have yet to play with it. This is a monster sized card lol.
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Re: 3090 With 8086K CPU @ 1440p
2022/04/01 18:09:12
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I switched from a 5600X to a 5900X and I'm actually kind of surprised how much better it runs with a 3080Ti gaming at 4K. Average frame rate is probably no different.
The 5600X would stutter for a second or two after any fast travel in most games I've played, I have yet to see the 5900X stutter. The 5600X would occasionally stutter in other situations too, but pretty rarely.
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