Dabadger84

jpac1
Dabadger84, make sure it's not your power supply making noise. Search on youtube "EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 Fan Rattling Issue"
   
 
Good luck

It is 100% not the PSU, the noise did not occur when I was leak testing the CPU loop before reinstalling it after swapping the mounting bracket - and I am 100% certain it's coming from the GPU pump.
 
I ordered a mini-4-pin to 4-pin adapter, I'm going to plug the pump in to the GPU's external fan header & use that to control the pump so it's only at 100% under load and see if that gets rid of the noise... if it does, I'll last til I can get a HydroCopper block on it.
 
I also ordered the Asus M.2 PCIe card... not that I NEED the extra storage, but I have 2 M.2s PCIe Gen 3 drives that are 8 months old, I don't really want to resell them and take a 50% loss lol
 

rjbarker
See this thread has "morphed" into a New Build ?
Anyone with a 9900k or 10900k CPU that OC's well (as in all cores 5Ghz +, particularly on a custom open loop) really has a perfect set-up to supplement the 3xxx series Cards.
What these Cards really need (to avoid any bottleneck) is speed....pure n simple..speed...not Core count....as much as I like AMD's offerings (hey Im CDN....CDN company originally).....all AMD CPU's simply dont OC...at all..zippo...period...you're stuck with 3.6Ghz...thats it....maybe get one or 2 cores up to 3.8Ghz....I think some folks with a a bunch of tinkering may have gotten a few cores to get past 4.2Ghz......painfully slow ....when engaging a crazy fast GPU....!!
If your looking at CPU Benchmarks then by all means the cazillion cores is the way to go...if your looking for gaming performance, then you simply cant get better than 8/16 or 10/20 cores/threads charging along (all cores n threads) at 5Ghz to 5.3Ghz. This will provide the data to your 3xxxx series GPU perfectly!! OP...it surprises me that someone that would dump all that $$$ on a KP Card would swap out an Intel system for an AMD System looking for improvements or just to fvlk around?
 
Anyone with a 9900k or 10900k (or even 8700k), would certainly suggest waiting until early fall to see what Alder Lake looks like. All information I'm finding looks quite promising, or even next Gen HEDT (that has been out the window awhile now)
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-alder-lake-specifications-price-benchmarks-release-date
Or hope AMD can counter Intel with speed above core count....
Personally I like OC'ing CPU...and these crazy fast 3xxx series Cards benefit from raw speed......AMD simply doesnt provide that option, to the same extent as Intel, great core count...cripples at speed, plain n simple!
Expect to see very little (if any) gains going from a 9th or 10th Gen Intel CPU to the latest 59xx Series AMD package, in some cases even a slight drop in performance.
Considering the next Gen Intel maybe looking at DDR5 and crazy fast Memory speeds...wait until Sept ;)

I'm going to start a new thread for the build section so we don't keep blabbing about all this system build stuff here... lol
 
I'll edit this post with the link once I get it up.
 
Also, the 5900x beats Intel's offerings in a fair amount of games with a 3090 - and AMD, unlike Intel, can see significant improvements in 1% low FPS numbers with the type of memory tuning I've already done.  I'll also have ReBar soon enough once I get the 5950x installed.

Those numbers you're saying for all core speed are pretty dated.  3900x runs 4.1GHz+ all core out of the box for me... pretty sure the 5900x/5950x runs faster than that... 5950x hits 4.4GHz+ all core at stock according to what I'm seeing, and the 5900x hit's 4.3-4.4GHz.  Part of why I wanted the 5900x is because it's base speed is faster (and it overclocks better), and I don't really have a need for 16 cores, 12 is more of what I wanted - but I'm not going to cry foul over getting a 5950x at MSRP way before I planned on getting a 5000-series CPU.
 

 
And KitGuru got their 5900x to run 4.7GHz all core with some tweaks.
 
And in games... well, for an older title, they win:
 

 
And note that's at 1440p not 1080p.
 
Then in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, which is a good general "how will this run games" benchmark, it performs the same as the 10900K: 
 

 
Personally I'd rather have a CPU that is a beast at productivity and can game - which is why my options were down to the 'old' 10900k that has no PCIe 4.0 etc, or going to AMD for the 5000-series.
 
I'm going to be testing this 3900x on my core-heavy work stuff in a bit, we shall see how it handles it compared to the 9900K (which would max out and occasionally cause "not responding"/freezing in some of the instances during load screens).

mech9t5
@Dabadger84, an off topic question: how's the pump noise?  Is it getting worse or still the same? I have not installed my Kingpin yet; will do it this weekend.

Dabadger84
Picture of when I had it apart, you can see what I mean by the outlines left on the VRAM chips where the pads didn't cover 2 of the chips fully: 
 

 
I'm sure that doesn't make a HUGE difference, but when you've got hot running chips stacked on either side of the PCB like that, I think it's safe to say that likely had some negative effect on temps.
 
I did not touch the VRM cooling on that side since my VRM temps are swa as is.
 

alpharius194

Dabadger84

vulcZ
Damnit, I haven't touched my KP 3090 in a month and now this conversation is getting me all excited to rip it out, tear it down, and re-apply thermal pads on the face side of the card. I never did do that last time, I only did the backplate, which gave me an improvement. But given some your front side memory chips didn't have great contact, it makes me wonder if maybe my card suffers from the same thing. My issue is I would need to buy new higher quality thermal pads. I'm still using those blue generic ones I ordered from Amazon 2 months ago LOL

I already got some of these in for when I get the HC block in in case the stock pads are meh in performance:
 
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Y6V5JK6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 2mm 12.8W/mK pads, and it's enough that you should be able to do all of the memory on one side of the card with one pack.  I have the 1mm version of these double-stacked on the backplate-side VRAM and they definitely caused an improvement in cooling over the 6W/mK Ayunni pads I had on the backplate side VRAM before.

Are all of the TIM pads 2mm? Or a mix of 1 and 2mm? Definitely going to be using my own over the EVGA provided ones when I put the block on the card. Still thinking about what to use on the gpu itself. I have a bunch of paste to try (Kryo extreme, TF8, KPx). I almost want to take the dive into liquid metal but with the naked copper block there will probably be interactions right?

critofur
What about this as a back plate?
 
https://www.amazon.com/LT...-Supply/dp/B07P5MB33Y/