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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 07:52:07 (permalink)
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https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-gaming-benchmarks-leaked-just-10-faster-than-the-rtx-3080/
 
Disclaimer: I have no opinion or agenda regarding this information, just posting the article.




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At about 30fps in 4K at max settings, per the LTT video. 
 
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 08:03:11 (permalink)
yeah, I would think anywhere from 15 - 25 % will be the most it can pull off.......

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 08:20:09 (permalink)
From Nvidia specs, the 3090 consume 9.3% more than the 3080 (350W against 320W)despite 16-20% more cores to provide for, and more than twice the GDDR6X ram amount...

Look no further, the card is bound by power.

Meaning a 3080-ti with less GDDR6X to provide for (20Gb instead of 24Gb) would have more power available for the cores, less heat to dissipate, and will deliver better performance on a given consumption.
 
 
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 08:22:37 (permalink)
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From Nvidia specs, the 3090 consume 9.3% more than the 3080 (350W against 320W)despite 16-20% more cores to provide for, and more than twice the GDDR6X ram amount...

Look no further, the card is bound by power.

Meaning a 3080-ti with less GDDR6X to provide for (20Gb instead of 24Gb) would have more power available for the cores, less heat to dissipate, and will deliver better performance on a given consumption.
 
 


Kinda like how the 2080ti could outperf the RTX Titan from time to time?

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 08:32:20 (permalink)
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Kinda like how the 2080ti could outperf the RTX Titan from time to time?




That's literally it really.
 
I would love to have some insight from EVGA/intense overclockers about how much power you can safely draw from a 2xPCIe 8pins (from a HX1000i in my case).
As far as i understand we're gonna need at least 380W available to reach the 15-20% performance increase over retail, non-overclocked, 3080s.
 
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 09:46:26 (permalink)
Few things,
The chinese numbers are fake. They also said that the 3080 was only 25% faster in 4k and thats wrong
EVERY SINGLE review shows between 30-32%
Pick your favorite reviewer and look for yourself. Chinese numbers are fake
 
Second, there is a guy who actually has the 3090 and posted tons of picks. he even shunted his 3090 and got 550watts.
The user scored 21900 shunted in time spy (gpu score). 
compare that to a stock 2080ti... 13,610
and a stock 3080 founders ....... 17,832
 
please note the user only gained 10% overclock after shunt mod! and that needed 550watts. you can most likely do a normal overclock with 440watt EVGA FTW3 and get 6-7% OC
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 10:43:08 (permalink)
I'm seeing most 3080's come in around 17.5k on TS on 3dMark, that's 1K above my typical 16,5K score with a 2080 Ti.  
 
I'm genuinely wondering if I should cancel my preorder, considering the lack of headroom.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/09/21 10:52:44
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 11:19:25 (permalink)
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I think people should wait until real benchmark reviews from multiple trusted sources come out and compare. I would never recommend anyone trust just one source for news and especially leaked numbers. The full picture will be shown soon enough.




Half the fun is seeing if we can make an accurate forecast based on incomplete information. 
 
My best guess?
 
They release a 3090 Titanic Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Edition using the GA100 some time in 2021.




Ummm any graphics card that has "Titanic" listed on it... I don't want... that ship sank... just sayin'

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 11:48:20 (permalink)
ok, so I removed that video

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 12:55:55 (permalink)
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Being a Titan class with high VRAM the 3090 is not meant for gaming as much as it for compute tasks, rendering, editing, encoding w/ NVENC, etc.
It could be it's not that big a leap for gaming, but is a bigger gain for work related use cases.


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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 20:20:58 (permalink)
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Few things,
The chinese numbers are fake. They also said that the 3080 was only 25% faster in 4k and thats wrong
EVERY SINGLE review shows between 30-32%
Pick your favorite reviewer and look for yourself. Chinese numbers are fake
 
Second, there is a guy who actually has the 3090 and posted tons of picks. he even shunted his 3090 and got 550watts.
The user scored 21900 shunted in time spy (gpu score). 
compare that to a stock 2080ti... 13,610
and a stock 3080 founders ....... 17,832
 
please note the user only gained 10% overclock after shunt mod! and that needed 550watts. you can most likely do a normal overclock with 440watt EVGA FTW3 and get 6-7% OC



Some people don't care for facts and will cherry pick to confirm their bias.
You're right, but it won't matter to those people.

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/21 20:33:22 (permalink)
The numbers have to be wrong. If the 3090 is really only 5 to 10% better, where could nvidia possibly go? How do they make a better 3080 with 20 gigs of vram that will perform between the two. Wed essentially have 3 of the same damn card with slightly different memory amounts. That makes absolutely no sense.
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/22 14:03:38 (permalink)
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I think people should wait until real benchmark reviews from multiple trusted sources come out and compare. I would never recommend anyone trust just one source for news and especially leaked numbers. The full picture will be shown soon enough.




Half the fun is seeing if we can make an accurate forecast based on incomplete information. 
 
My best guess?
 
They release a 3090 Titanic Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Edition using the GA100 some time in 2021.




Ummm any graphics card that has "Titanic" listed on it... I don't want... that ship sank... just sayin'




That's the joke.
 
But for real, Titanium and Titanic both come from the same root of "Titan", the gods, etc.
 
https://www.etymonline.com/word/titan
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/22 22:16:30 (permalink)
Seems to be hitting 8k ~50-60fps with DLSS and a lower rendering resolution.
Posted in the other thread but here is MKBHD's video.

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 04:34:13 (permalink)
The thing with that video, we don't know what settings are set for the Forza part, and then the Control part you can tell he doesn't seem to understand DLSS. At no point did he have native 8k running, and we can't tell what he has for RTX options either. 
 
Honestly videos like this drive me crazy, show us what settings are being used so we can get an idea of how well it is actually doing.
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 05:06:51 (permalink)
LTT has a video of a 3090 pulling 8k natively and locked hard at 60fps with most games on high-highest settings. my rough rule of thumb is that if a card is running at 60fps locked, it’ll do 120-144 in the resolution below it. if you’re trying to run most games in ultra at 4k 144 and or 1440 at 240... buy the card.
i’m running 3840x1600 locked at 160, but i want all future games to be locked at this too, so i’ll be going with the 3090.


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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 05:15:10 (permalink)
I believe the reviews of the RTX 3090 will be shown in about 45 minutes from now.

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 05:26:04 (permalink)
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I believe the reviews of the RTX 3090 will be shown in about 45 minutes from now.




I doubt. Hopefully they do though.
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 07:17:09 (permalink)
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I believe the reviews of the RTX 3090 will be shown in about 45 minutes from now.


I thought Nvidia said no reveals until the 24th?!
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 07:28:19 (permalink)
Its 15-20 percent faster
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 12:19:53 (permalink)
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I think people should wait until real benchmark reviews from multiple trusted sources come out and compare. I would never recommend anyone trust just one source for news and especially leaked numbers. The full picture will be shown soon enough.


Agreed.
Too often some people are more interested in confirming a predetermined bias. The misinformation that this perpetuates is not beneficial, and can potentially be harmful in extreme cases.

There are other leaked benchmarks that contradict these results and show closer to a 20% performance increase over the 3080.

These high VRAM cards are not intended for gaming anyway. They're more suited to professional uses such as editing, encoding, compute tasks, etc. Gaming doesn't even saturate 8GB due to being designed for a lowest common denominator (consoles) and scaled upward from there.

The 3080 is not meant for most of us in the first place. Making a lot of 3090 debate and speculation academic more than useful in a gaming context.

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 12:25:39 (permalink)
I'm still trying to find out why Evga is coming out with a 3090 Kingpin if it's not geared towards gamers.

Maybe I'm wrong thinking a Kingpin card is a gaming card.. maybe its just a benchmark card period.. if the 3090 is 10-15% faster then the 3080. Then I guess that's why they used that model.

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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 15:43:40 (permalink)
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I think people should wait until real benchmark reviews from multiple trusted sources come out and compare. I would never recommend anyone trust just one source for news and especially leaked numbers. The full picture will be shown soon enough.




Half the fun is seeing if we can make an accurate forecast based on incomplete information. 
 
My best guess?
 
They release a 3090 Titanic Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Edition using the GA100 some time in 2021.




Ummm any graphics card that has "Titanic" listed on it... I don't want... that ship sank... just sayin'




That's the joke.
 
But for real, Titanium and Titanic both come from the same root of "Titan", the gods, etc.
 
https://www.etymonline.com/word/titan




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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 15:54:48 (permalink)
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Its 15-20 percent faster


more like 10-15%
https://www.nvidia.com/en...3090-out-september-24/
 
For 4K gaming, the GeForce RTX 3090 is about 10-15% faster on average than the GeForce RTX 3080
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/23 21:26:15 (permalink)
up to 20% at 4k and futureproofed with higher vram. diminishing returns but worth it for some
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/24 04:25:59 (permalink)
Seems about right to me 
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/24 07:28:31 (permalink)
Alright, I said I would come back and have a good laugh if it is true. HAHAHAHA! Hilarious!
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/24 08:08:51 (permalink)
I doubt. Hopefully they do though.
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/24 08:14:46 (permalink)
As always, wait for benchmarks and testing to be done!
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Re: 3090 Gaming Performance leaks - 10% faster than 3080 2020/09/24 10:19:42 (permalink)
Maybe just like RTX TITAN with 2080Ti(around 10%-20%)
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