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2021/01/12 09:39:05 (permalink)
Hey everyone,
 
 So I think my 3080 ftw ultra is under performing because it hardly has any gpu usage while gaming. If I benchmark i get 100% usage. In games i get1% - 20 % usage. At first I thought it was just a beast but after reading online people still seem to get 80% usage in the games I play.

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/question-about-my-gpu-thanks.3679021/ I made a post in another fourm and someone thinks my cpu is some how the root of the problem.

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If you didn't want to check the post, all my drivers are up to date, I have the F30 bios for my 570 mobo as well.
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 09:54:05 (permalink)
    What CPU, what resolution are you gaming, and what game(s)?
     
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 10:02:00 (permalink)
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    What CPU, what resolution are you gaming, and what game(s)?
     


    3700X with x34 predator so 1440p 100hz

    warcraft i get like 0-3% usage , 30% cpu 90 frames

    cyber punk is 1-9% gpu usage- 40 % cpu ( reason for the question stems from gpu usage here) 60 frames

    Cod 20% usage gpu - 70% cpu 80 frames

    all max setting with rtx


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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 11:22:31 (permalink)
    Similar issue and nothing has worked to fix it
     
    3080 ftw ultra, 4670k, 16gig ddr3 1440p 850watt psu. Warzone is 50-80 fps
     
    Tried
    Switching from 8gb ram to 16gb
    PCIe lanes are running at 3.0
    Tried uninstalling / reinstalling multiple drivers / studio drivers using DDU and safemode
    Closing everything out of taskmanager
    redownloading game
    Moved 8 pin powers on separate rails instead of the chained one
    Increasing power using Precision to set to 50%
    Setting Nvidia control panel power to max performance
     
    Nothing has resulted in a change
     
    No matter what graphic settings ( all on max or all on lowest ) Fps doesn't change, cpu 100% and GPU sits around 40-50% max
    Upgraded from a 1080ti and that was getting almost 80-100 with same settings
     
    The common "answer" is that CPU could be bottleneck but I doubt it would result in fps less than the 1080ti, even a user benchmarks for the same cpus shows considerably more fps 
     
     
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 11:25:56 (permalink)
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    Similar issue and nothing has worked to fix it
     
    3080 ftw ultra, 4670k, 16gig ddr3 1440p 850watt psu. Warzone is 50-80 fps
     
    Tried
    Switching from 8gb ram to 16gb
    PCIe lanes are running at 3.0
    Tried uninstalling / reinstalling multiple drivers / studio drivers using DDU and safemode
    Closing everything out of taskmanager
    redownloading game
    Moved 8 pin powers on separate rails instead of the chained one
    Increasing power using Precision to set to 50%
    Setting Nvidia control panel power to max performance
     
    Nothing has resulted in a change
     
    No matter what graphic settings ( all on max or all on lowest ) Fps doesn't change, cpu 100% and GPU sits around 40-50% max
    Upgraded from a 1080ti and that was getting almost 80-100 with same settings
     
    The common "answer" is that CPU could be bottleneck but I doubt it would result in fps less than the 1080ti, even a user benchmarks for the same cpus shows considerably more fps 
     
     


    your runing a olde cpu so I could see a bottleneck, I'm running a 3700x so there isn't a bottle neck there its a strong cpu. Ive also looked into other people running my rig and they don't have this problem..


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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 11:50:49 (permalink)
    That wouldn't explain this benchmark which shows the user running 4690k with 148fps average, even the i5 2500k shows a 136fps average. Also considering I upgraded from a 1080ti that had higher fps, that can't be the case. 50-80 fps staring at a wall says there's clearly something else going on. I should be having, at minimum, the exact same experience as a 1080ti and not less.
     
    Edit: Oh I can't link youtube videos yet. I added a screenshot from it
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 11:54:18 (permalink)
    use the 460.89 driver  - clean install/ wipe of older.  & set 'max performance' in Nvidia control panel.
     
    Something is wrong somewhere to be getting only a few %'s  of gpu  ...
    You should be seeing about 40 - 60 % cpu  with a 95% gpu usage spikes. 
    ..are you using precision  or Afterburner  to set fans / cooling?
     
    I set my X570 board manually to be at Pcie 4.0 in the BIOS .
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 11:57:55 (permalink)
    Open GPU-z and make sure your card is boosting to PCI 4.0 x16 and it isn’t staying idle for some reason.

    I would suggest checking that, and also getting a good image of GPU-z sensor tab as well.

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 12:47:50 (permalink)
    Cleaned drivers in safemode with DDU, installed 460.86
    Added GPUz screenshot while running Warzone. 8 pin powers seem low?

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 13:12:53 (permalink)
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    use the 460.89 driver  - clean install/ wipe of older.  & set 'max performance' in Nvidia control panel.
     
    Something is wrong somewhere to be getting only a few %'s  of gpu  ...
    You should be seeing about 40 - 60 % cpu  with a 95% gpu usage spikes. 
    ..are you using precision  or Afterburner  to set fans / cooling?
     
    I set my X570 board manually to be at Pcie 4.0 in the BIOS .


    I was having the problem with that driver before I updated too 461.09. Selecting max performance didn't change anything. I had manually done the pcei 4 in my bios already. I precision X1 fan controls set to silent.


     
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    Open GPU-z and make sure your card is boosting to PCI 4.0 x16 and it isn’t staying idle for some reason.

    I would suggest checking that, and also getting a good image of GPU-z sensor tab as well.


    Yes its detecting the pci 4 the bus interface says X16 4.0x16 1.1.

    this show gpu load 99% usage but task manager and NZXT both show 20% when I play
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 13:17:01 (permalink)
    Do you have Vsync, Gsync, or framerate caps set anywhere?  If so, what you are seeing is normal.
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 13:20:08 (permalink)
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    Do you have Vsync, Gsync, or framerate caps set anywhere?  If so, what you are seeing is normal.


    vsync is of in games and in nvida control panel but I do have gsync on
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/12 19:09:06 (permalink)
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    use the 460.89 driver  - clean install/ wipe of older.  & set 'max performance' in Nvidia control panel.
     
    Something is wrong somewhere to be getting only a few %'s  of gpu  ...
    You should be seeing about 40 - 60 % cpu  with a 95% gpu usage spikes. 
    ..are you using precision  or Afterburner  to set fans / cooling?
     
    I set my X570 board manually to be at Pcie 4.0 in the BIOS .


    I was having the problem with that driver before I updated too 461.09. Selecting max performance didn't change anything. I had manually done the pcei 4 in my bios already. I precision X1 fan controls set to silent.


     
    the_Scarlet_one
    Open GPU-z and make sure your card is boosting to PCI 4.0 x16 and it isn’t staying idle for some reason.

    I would suggest checking that, and also getting a good image of GPU-z sensor tab as well.


    Yes its detecting the pci 4 the bus interface says X16 4.0x16 1.1.

    this show gpu load 99% usage but task manager and NZXT both show 20% when I play


    Wait, when you put the GPU Under load, does it show PCIe 4.0 x16 on both sides, or does it stay at 1.1 on the second line?

    You can click the little “?” and run the render test while watching that. If it stays at 1.1, that is the issue. If it goes to 4.0, then there is something else going on.
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 08:33:49 (permalink)
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    use the 460.89 driver  - clean install/ wipe of older.  & set 'max performance' in Nvidia control panel.
     
    Something is wrong somewhere to be getting only a few %'s  of gpu  ...
    You should be seeing about 40 - 60 % cpu  with a 95% gpu usage spikes. 
    ..are you using precision  or Afterburner  to set fans / cooling?
     
    I set my X570 board manually to be at Pcie 4.0 in the BIOS .


    I was having the problem with that driver before I updated too 461.09. Selecting max performance didn't change anything. I had manually done the pcei 4 in my bios already. I precision X1 fan controls set to silent.


     
    the_Scarlet_one
    Open GPU-z and make sure your card is boosting to PCI 4.0 x16 and it isn’t staying idle for some reason.

    I would suggest checking that, and also getting a good image of GPU-z sensor tab as well.


    I never noticed it changed but it does go to 4.0 when the game is running
    Yes its detecting the pci 4 the bus interface says X16 4.0x16 1.1.

    this show gpu load 99% usage but task manager and NZXT both show 20% when I play


    Wait, when you put the GPU Under load, does it show PCIe 4.0 x16 on both sides, or does it stay at 1.1 on the second line?

    You can click the little “?” and run the render test while watching that. If it stays at 1.1, that is the issue. If it goes to 4.0, then there is something else going on.


    Yes it changes to 4.0 while gaming
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 08:36:31 (permalink)
    could task manger and nxzt be faulty if gpu-z is showing 99% usage ? if so my fps still isn't where it should be ! I get 90 fps and ive seen people with my rig get 120-140 in cod on benchmark videos
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 08:48:22 (permalink)
    Benchmark’s may perform a little different than actual gameplay, so try running the same benchmark if you can.

    Gameplay has to factor a lot more than just the game, so it may be lower in gameplay.

    NZXT could definitely be off, but I would THINK that task manager would be correct.

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 09:01:59 (permalink)
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    Benchmark’s may perform a little different than actual gameplay, so try running the same benchmark if you can.

    Gameplay has to factor a lot more than just the game, so it may be lower in gameplay.

    NZXT could definitely be off, but I would THINK that task manager would be correct.



    Sorry the benchmarks i watched were actual in game footage were they display there benchmarks in the top left corner.
     
    I've ran benchmarks before i get full usage in task manager  ( 100% ) I did unigine heaven benchmark 4.0 i had
     
    192.8 fps
    score of 4857
    min 48.5 and max 399.8
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 09:06:23 (permalink)
    Looking at your graph through my computer, instead of through my phone, you are running very low on the power at 50% TDP.  
     
    Your bios and chipset drivers are fully up to date, correct?
     

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 09:35:31 (permalink)
    I updated from f11 to f30 in my bios with no change. The f31 is the latest bios but i was reading up it was mainly for the 5XXXX series gpus which i don't have. Should  I still update to it ? Also I had a question since we are on the topic. When updating bios should you update in order or does the latest one include everything ? Also all the other drives are up to date
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 10:31:24 (permalink)
    The newest bios should always implement previous changes, from everything I understand. I typically update it to the newest because it often adds more stability overall, but that isn’t guaranteed.

    I am not an AMD user, so I am not sure if it is called the same thing, but has your chipset driver been updated? You can update the chipset driver to the newest available.

    You may have already answered this, but just humor me if you don’t mind, do you have all three cables for your GOU individually wired to your power supply? I can see you are getting 12.2v on the supply side, so you should have good power, but it is strange the usage is so low.

    Another question, just to cover as much as possible at one time, have you verified your resolution and refresh rate are running at the correct settings in NVidia control panel and in windows?

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 10:45:38 (permalink)
    Ok I'll update to the newest bios for to cover more ground. Yes I had at first used drive booster to update my drivers but I manually did it myself after thinkin maybe that was the problem so all drivers are up to date from MoBo website.

    Yes that was new to me coming from my 980 ti's but this time around I have 3 separate 8 pins to 6+2 pin per slot. Oh yah after every gpu driver update I have to to select 100hz from 60 myself. So its always done

    Something I think I forgot to mention, I had my CPU OC too 4.4 using ryzen master. I figured I would reset back to base clock and when I did using ryzen master I noticed it didn't really reset. If i use task manager it says it about 4.2ish at idle and if I use HW monitor I have 1 row bouncing from 3.6 to 4.4. 1 row steady at 3.5 and 1 row at 4.4. I dunno if my CPU is some how effecting all this or not ?
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 12:08:08 (permalink)
    Your not running anything in windowed mode are you? My GPU doesnt clock up correctly either if I am in windowed mode for some reason.
     

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/13 12:27:06 (permalink)
    naw everything if full screen except one game but all the games have the same problem

    edit: still ongoing problem
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/15 14:40:53 (permalink)
    Have you installed EVGA Precision X1? It should do an automatic Vbios update.
    Also make sure your VGA modular cable is in the VGA slot on the PSU.
    According to GPU-z, you are not getting a reliable voltage.
    What PSU do you have?
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/15 20:57:59 (permalink)
    I do have X1 installed and i did update the vbios through X1 when i got it ( it even fixed a coil wine i had )

    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MKfp99/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr is my power supply and yes there installed correctly in the red slotted ones. I have 3 separate pci cable's hooked up, 8 pin - 6+2 pin
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/15 22:47:58 (permalink)
    I have the same PSU but I have the EVGA 3070 cx3 ultra and it runs perfect. You might have to RMA the card.
    You can try switching to a different PSU VGA slot.
    Last thing you can try is fresh windows 10 install.
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/16 14:18:21 (permalink)
    In PX1, do you happen to have "Framerate Limit" turned on? It's under the Advanced Setting tab. You can also try turning on Boost Lock to keep your GPU at full clocks and see if that changes during gaming.
     
    If it's a CPU issue, one thing to look at is Windows Power settings and trying to use other power plans. There are custom ones like 1umus Ryzen Power Plan or sz Ryzen Balanced V4, but you can try the normal AMD Ryzen High Performance plan (assuming you've installed AMD Chipset drivers). 


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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/16 15:12:02 (permalink)
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    Increasing power using Precision to set to 50%
     


     
    What do you mean by this? You're not setting the Power slider at 50 are you?
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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/16 15:28:37 (permalink)
    Just wanted to note, precision does NOT update the vbios, precision ONLY updates the firmware for the fan and RGB controller. These are not the same thing.

    You would need to update the bios yourself, completely separate from precision, to get a vbios update.

    These thing are NOT linked together, so please be aware that saying you updated the vbios through precision is not what is actually happening.

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    Re: 3080 not running full tilt ?? 2021/01/16 19:06:45 (permalink)
    I'll prob try and do a clean version of windows tomorrow since I'm running out of options.

    The frame rate limit was turned off so it was set to max by default. boost lock did nothing to help. Also my cpu power setting was set to the high performance with ryzen setting

    power slider bar is set at 100

    Also thanks scarlet_one I didn't realize that but I just updated both vbios on the card and nothing seemed to change
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